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cis autodrag posted:so reading up on what the on sites are like for apple, would it be worth it to sink some time into one of those coding challenge sites and reviewing the basic algorithm and data structure runtimes and such? first, you need to take a deep breath and not panic about this. second, reviewing algorithms is always good. read this: http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2008/03/get-that-job-at-google.html Now look up on Wikipedia every one of the algorithms mentioned there that you don't remember.
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mishaq posted:im flying for 14 hours straight one way in economy next month I have done this a couple times. I try to keep flights to 10 hours so I can get a shower at a lounge and feel like a human being again, but some places are just impossible to get to without those 12-14 hr flights. the worst was Turkish air where our air conditioning was hosed up and it was super hot in our part of the plane for 10 hours on the way from Houston to Istanbul.
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May 5, 2017 05:58
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i never get the legroom complaints in buses or airplanes. i think you hold yourselves wrong
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May 5, 2017 08:31
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have you ever been on a 10+ hour flight or are you like 5ft?
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Maximum Leader posted:have you ever been on a 10+ hour flight or are you like 5ft? im 6'5". haven't flown further than london to east coast in a single continuous flight, but ive been on 18 hour long uninterrupted bus rides
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May 5, 2017 10:26
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all flights longer than like two hours feel the same to me. longest I've done recently was 11 hours, past a certain point it just becomes A Long Time
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May 5, 2017 10:55
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I just had a shared document coding interview over google docs, typing into the word processor. it auto-capitalized my code, tried to correct my spelling, and obviously doesn't do things like maintaining indents or syntax highlights. my code went okay but writing it was a loving disaster.
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May 5, 2017 15:23
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The Management posted:first, you need to take a deep breath and not panic about this. ok i will do this. i just get nervous because when the pressure is on i tend to massively overthink problems and overengineer stuff. and i have like 0 math background so if they start asking statistics and discrete math questions i'm effed. also impostor syndrome. upjumped epic tech commer to senior engineer at apple is a huuuuuge jump.
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May 5, 2017 15:28
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cis autodrag posted:ok i will do this. i just get nervous because when the pressure is on i tend to massively overthink problems and overengineer stuff. and i have like 0 math background so if they start asking statistics and discrete math questions i'm effed. also impostor syndrome. upjumped epic tech commer to senior engineer at apple is a huuuuuge jump. State your assumptions before you begin answering a question 
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The Management posted:I just had a shared document coding interview over google docs, typing into the word processor. it auto-capitalized my code, tried to correct my spelling, and obviously doesn't do things like maintaining indents or syntax highlights. my code went okay but writing it was a loving disaster. was it google? for me it was luckily just a coding screen and I got a good chuckle out of a bad dog food joke
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May 5, 2017 15:33
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Captain Foo posted:State your assumptions before you begin answering a question yes, this is a habit i picked up in my algorithms class because the teacher was a ph.d who studies NP-Complete problems and he would constantly talk beyond everyone's level. i'd always begin by writing a list of assumptions and constraints, trying to draw a visualization of the problem, and then checking if we were on the same page before i started solving. i still only had like a 50% success rate. poo poo like network flow and dynamic programming is hard to the point that he didn't even bother to teach implementation, just writing the plain english algorithms and proofs.
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i spoke w/ the ciso for an org that is doing the same "digital transformation" that every other enterprise is doing. i was referred to the role from a former employee of mine, and the recruiter was telling me how excited the ciso was to get someone into the role who really knows iam, speaks at conferences, participates in standards bodies, etc. seems like it would be a reasonable next step. turns out she wants someone to put out a compliance fire fast (that's fine), but that's it. no thoughts on how to use customer identity to drive business, improving the enrollment, authn/authz touchpoints for staff and customers, etc. and as for setting the vision of iam in the enterprise she wants the director of iam to build and execute a 3 year roadmap that gets them current- but she already has years 1 and 2 outlined for me. doing extra curricular work in the industry is "serving two masters" and if i want to keep relevant in the field then "this role may not be for you if you want to do great things, we just want someone to get us moving" like, jeez, of course a the "getting things fixed" is a necessary step on the way to future identity poo poo. ffs. don't seek out "people with vision and passion" and then say you just want a company drone who will stand up the same iam system he deployed in his previous role based on... because people who set "the vision" and execute all love taking lateral positions to do the same thing over and over again anyway. what a waste of time.
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also, they would want me to relocate to atlanta 
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TerminalRaptor posted:One of the more interesting things I've learned in the past few years is the larger international flight planes actually have sleeping bunks for the flight attendants. I didn't think there was enough room on a plane for such a thing. they're jammed in above the fore galley/lavs usually, where there's space that's being used for overhead bins in the rest of the fuselage
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Turnquiet posted:also, they would want me to relocate to atlanta lol
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Cocoa Crispies posted:they're jammed in above the fore galley/lavs usually, where there's space that's being used for overhead bins in the rest of the fuselage on some of the newer wide bodies there's space in the crown above the bins or under the cockpit iirc boeing pitched selling tickets for long haul flights to customers up there in the 787 but no airliners went for it
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PCjr sidecar posted:on some of the newer wide bodies there's space in the crown above the bins or under the cockpit eitithad used the space above he cockpit in the a380 for this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLZ2iDLPcxw
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someone explain the logic behind having a candidate run through some multi-hour code test then ask them to do something incredibly simple like walk a tree in a phone call. how could I have gotten to the call without being able to write all 6 lines of code if I couldn't write the several hundred needed to get to that point?  e: wait they didn't even bother to read through the code test did they?
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May 6, 2017 13:32
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it's (ostensibly) to make sure you didn't get someone else to take the test for you
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May 6, 2017 13:48
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ive seen that before with remote testing. when you do better than anticipated, an in person check follows
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The Management posted:first, you need to take a deep breath and not panic about this.
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raminasi posted:it's (ostensibly) to make sure you didn't get someone else to take the test for you cinci zoo sniper posted:ive seen that before with remote testing. when you do better than anticipated, an in person check follows maybe that's why they wanted me to open my webcam but at having a functional webcam.e: also their code test had a "what's wrong with this code" section where the answer was effectively, "if this won't build for you I'm not sure I want to work in C++98 for what I think you're paying" leper khan fucked around with this message at 14:56 on May 6, 2017 |
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May 6, 2017 14:52
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leper khan posted:maybe that's why they wanted me to open my webcam but everyone has a functional webcam
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cinci zoo sniper posted:everyone has a functional webcam not on a machine I have a code editor
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May 6, 2017 15:40
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leper khan posted:not on a machine I have a code editor 
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cinci zoo sniper posted:do you not have a laptop? the web cam is broken and it's not worth getting a new laptop over 
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May 6, 2017 15:45
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but what if they cheat!?! for fucks sake just have people talk about the code they write
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cinci zoo sniper posted:everyone has a functional webcam i don't have a web cam
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Iverron posted:but what if they cheat!?! I've never understood this. what benefit is derived from having someone interview for you? certainly not employment; and certainly not for any length of time that would make up for costs of moving. if there's effectively no benefit, I would expect the number of people doing so to be vanishingly small.
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cis autodrag posted:i don't have a web cam 
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Iverron posted:but what if they cheat!?! yep, this. everyone I've ever had on a call that was cheating could not talk about their code at all. same is true for people that seemed to have a memorized answer to an interview question. it's pretty obvious.
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leper khan posted:I've never understood this. what benefit is derived from having someone interview for you? there are people out there that are terrible at their jobs. these people still need to get paid to live. they try to get jobs mostly at big companies where they can get away with not being productive or useful for long enough. if the management is inattentive they can stay there forever, creating work for themselves by writing bad code and then trying to fix it. but sometimes they need to change jobs. they view the interview as a hurdle to be passed, not as a bar that their skills must meet, so cheating is justified in their minds.
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May 6, 2017 16:13
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i work remote and nobody ever uses the webcam, we just use our microphones during meetings is this typical?
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rt4 posted:i work remote and nobody ever uses the webcam, we just use our microphones during meetings it's been 50/50 for my remote interviews so far tbh I raise eyebrows at what a company insisting on video chat is really looking for, even subconsciously
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I had a recruiter tell me her company policy was that they had to see you over video chat before placing you and she didn't understand why I was confused, I mean there's no legitimate reason to do that [and a bunch of illegal ones]
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May 6, 2017 17:27
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we have a strict no fatties policy
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rt4 posted:i work remote and nobody ever uses the webcam, we just use our microphones during meetings we use video for like 2 or 3 people discussions, everything else is audio only p much my first remote job I got without anyone having ever seen my face until i showed up for in person onboarding
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qirex posted:I had a recruiter tell me her company policy was that they had to see you over video chat before placing you and she didn't understand why I was confused, I mean there's no legitimate reason to do that [and a bunch of illegal ones] probably to make sure you're not a complete slob and or a punk and or a fat also subconscious racism obviously
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May 6, 2017 23:07
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rt4 posted:i work remote and nobody ever uses the webcam, we just use our microphones during meetings we use cameras for our weekly meeting and I usually bring a cat or two in on them
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leper khan posted:I've never understood this. what benefit is derived from having someone interview for you? my manager actually explained this to me once. apparently it's surprisingly common, especially for contract positions. the end goal is to bullshit your way through a few months while learning at least a little bit on the job, then later be able to put down that you have "experience" when applying for your next job. apparently he's had a couple people outright confess to it when they try a webcam interview.
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