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Polio Vax Scene posted:people die when they get old enough. its true! Notorious R.I.M. posted:"9 billion instead of 30 billion" hmm yes both numbers I've heard thrown around with RCP 8.5 quite a lot :thinking_emoji:
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Accretionist posted:You can get the idea out there by pushing it at Whole Foods and on Instagram. Weave it into the whole organic anti-GMO thing through social media marketing, branding, etc. Get vegetarians to incorporate climate change into their pitches and propaganda. Apply slight, constant pressure and hope it snowballs or at least enters the culture. If it succeeds, it'll help downstream. I really hope you don't seriously believe something like this has a snowball's chance in future Earth of having a meaningful effect. The time has come and gone.
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And while you are explaining to people in the Whole Foods parking lot that overconsumption is killing the planet, there exists an entire subculture of "rolling coal" dedicated to burning fossil fuels in the most inefficient manner possible, primarily out of tribal spite towards the people who shop at Whole Foods.
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# ? May 5, 2017 20:10 |
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Dead Reckoning posted:Unfortunately, they don't stop consuming resources while they get old, and the social & technological development that is a prerequisite for universal access to family planning also tends to permit greatly improved lifespans and lower mortality rates. This is a funny quote because a lot of the primary differences between RCP 6 and RCP 8.5 come down to changes in population dynamics. I guess none of that matters when you're just looking for any excuse whatsoever to absolve yourself of personal responsibility though.
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Mozi posted:If we never invented fire, at least there would still be a stable world in which to scrape out an existence. I don't know if you know this but we didn't invent fire.
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Misanthropes think there are too many people on the planet and any number is too many. News at 11
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Mozi posted:I really hope you don't seriously believe something like this has a snowball's chance in future Earth of having a meaningful effect. The time has come and gone. What do you mean by, "meaningful effect?" More to the point, do you think it's stupid and harmful? Edit: My gripe is that there's a tendency to judge policy not according its goal, it's fit to its goal or its costs/impact but rather according to whether or not it's a silver bullet. When it's time to abandon Miami and Border Patrol's job is killing climate refugees at the southern border, it's not like everyone's going to just go, "Welp," and commit suicide. Accretionist fucked around with this message at 21:14 on May 5, 2017 |
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Every gun control, air travel company, circumcision or tipping discussion ever conducted on this forum combined are preferable to the contents of this thread. Thank you Lowtax. I never before knew the value of the ignore list.
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Mercrom posted:Every gun control, air travel company, circumcision or tipping discussion ever conducted on this forum combined are preferable to the contents of this thread. Thank you Lowtax. I never before knew the value of the ignore list. Don't worry, here's a reminder on how we're totally hosed (plus video form): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igLaQ4Gi_0Y tl;dw - more CO2 in the atmosphere reduces nutrients in food crops (some as much as 10% - there's a graph at 4:00); also this study was only done at 550 ppm.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J3Ngiw7RWwquote:We scoff and roll our eyes
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# ? May 6, 2017 00:21 |
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New potential for death! quote:There are diseases hidden in ice, and they are waking up
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Haha that's pretty neat
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# ? May 6, 2017 03:43 |
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Mutant alien space plague, coming right up.
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At least they won't be antibiotic resistant bacteria!
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Mustached Demon posted:At least they won't be antibiotic resistant bacteria! You should read more of that article.
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skull mask mcgee posted:You should read more of that article. drat here I was trying to be positive. Well then uh neat that they developed their own resistance many moons ago.
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Star Man posted:Misanthropes think there are too many people on the planet and any number is too many. News at 11 You would be a misanthrope too if you had to spend as much time around them as they do.
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Accretionist posted:What do you mean by, "meaningful effect?" More to the point, do you think it's stupid and harmful? The time for that was the past twenty years. It is too late for a bandage.
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# ? May 6, 2017 05:36 |
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Super dumb to think there's a killer human virus waiting in the ice given that the killer human viruses are the ones we carefully grew in cities for the last millennium. There's nothing coming out of the ice to kill us except methane.
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TildeATH posted:There's nothing coming out of the ice to kill us except methane. Encino Man 2
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# ? May 6, 2017 06:22 |
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Shifty Nipples posted:"Silver Bullets or Nothing!" FTFY If you didn't see my previous posts, I'm rejecting the glib, out-of-hand rejection and derision of policies which aren't 'one step plans to fix everything.' This transitioned into, 'I think pushing for dietary changes would represent negligible costs and might help grease the skids on future (forced) changes.'
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# ? May 6, 2017 06:32 |
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The thawing out of old diseases is a real concern for people in permafrost regions, but by their own nature outbreaks in these places are easy to contain between the mix of remoteness and low population density. Echoing an earlier poster, it's not going to be some paleolithic superbug that bumfucks us, but something petridished in urban slums or refugee camps.
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I'm still concerned.
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quote:Icebergs to be towed from Antarctica to United Arab Emirates for drinking water https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnBArsrwnuE quote:Launch of "Filling the Empty Quarter" Environmental Initiative
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See? Those clever UAE scamps are actually gonna benefit from climate change maybe perhaps. It's gonna be okay guys.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cjx4gJFME0 I always thought this was an idea so stupid only a joke cartoon character could even entertain it.
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We used to ship huge blocks of ice via boat from the North American Great Lakes region all the way to India and other British colonies. So this is just scaling things up!
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Burt Buckle posted:See? Those clever UAE scamps are actually gonna benefit from climate change maybe perhaps. It's gonna be okay guys. The rabbit hole on UAE nonsense ideas and the general intellectual poverty that comes with extreme and sudden wealth is very deep. Look up what Mazdar city actually is and prepare for a world of LOLs.
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# ? May 6, 2017 19:54 |
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Wow this idea was mentioned in a popular scifi book a few years ago. This thread is depressing.
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# ? May 6, 2017 23:53 |
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I can't wait till they get the currents or whatever wrong and a bazillion ton iceberg crashes into a major coastal city during the middle of a heat wave.
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StabbinHobo posted:I can't wait till they get the currents or whatever wrong and a bazillion ton iceberg crashes into a major coastal city during the middle of a heat wave. It will be a fun relief from the heat. Like when the neighborhood kids open the fire hydrant on a hot summer day.
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StabbinHobo posted:I can't wait till they get the currents or whatever wrong and a bazillion ton iceberg crashes into a major coastal city during the middle of a heat wave.
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I came across a climate change-related bit in the Science magazine podcast (starts at 16:10). Here's the article they're referring to, if you have access to it (I don't). In it, they frame climate change as human behavior problem. Here's the summary:
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The most intelligent know species, ladies and gentlemen. "A smiley face?? Hot drat! Finally I'm motivated to save the ecosystem that keeps me alive!"
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http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2017/05/derrick-crowe-lamar-smith-challenger If nothing else, I hope Crowe gets to the point where he can debate Smith. One-on-one, I bet Smith, when challenged on the issue, is going to go ballistic. A Buttery Pastry posted:It's probably gonna run aground before it hits any inhabited area, though it could still just sit there and prevent ships from reaching port for a long while. That'd be an interesting image. You'd have dudes taking small boats out to the beached iceberg and chipping bits off to take home and use for water.
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Wanderer posted:
It'd definitely capture more attention than the image of women walking kilometers carrying buckets on their heads.
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# ? May 7, 2017 23:13 |
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There was a real loving cool show about that sort of thing. Fortitude. I need to check if season two is a thing because it'll help prepare me for my inevitable future. Edit: it's loving out Guess I know what I'm doing this week!
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Burt Buckle posted:See? Those clever UAE scamps are actually gonna benefit from climate change maybe perhaps. It's gonna be okay guys. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svKq044qrYU You know, things like this and Masdar city make more sense if you consider that its all part of a secret Brewster's Millionsesque spending challenge...
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aphid_licker posted:The most intelligent know species, ladies and gentlemen. "A smiley face?? Hot drat! Finally I'm motivated to save the ecosystem that keeps me alive!" Never forget that as humans we're stupid, hairy apes that can't look much farther than a day's walk away. We're ruled primarily by our emotions and base urges.
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Burt Buckle posted:See? Those clever UAE scamps are actually gonna benefit from climate change maybe perhaps. It's gonna be okay guys. The amount of vessels needed would create as much pollution as all the cars in the world.
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