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Tenterhooks posted:I wonder if you could be like "mother, if the monster that's on board wanders into a room with only one way out, lock it in" or if it'd be like trying to explain your plan to Siri. Well it can locate it, so that actually seems like a good plan. I guess there are probably air vents and such in every room though?
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CelticPredator posted:"Okay, now playing The Room directed by Tommy Wiseau" *cut to a few xenos wearing tuxedos tossing a football around in a bulkhead* Edit: Note to self: Copyright "Xenos Wearing Tuxedos". Gonz fucked around with this message at 09:11 on May 6, 2017 |
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So many wrong votes on this thread. Alien 3 blows even in the Assembly Cut. I mean it's better, but it is quite literally a polished turd. I don't blame Fincher at all, he was a green director getting pushed around by old guard Hollywood. He hates the film in all it's forms and so do I. DC Murderverse posted:yeah, of course David Fincher hates Alien 3, he had a really lovely time making it. And you know, it's poo poo. Both Alien 3 and AVP had some pretty good scripts floating around and they used the worst of all of them both times. I dare say the problem is Weaver; my favorite script (while needing polish) was the Gibson one that chucks her out of the film. Weaver had dumb and bad ideas galore and they let her have them too much. She was not the franchise, at all.
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May 6, 2017 10:07
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Regardless of how good or bad Weaver is it is nice to be getting Alien films with new protagonists each time. I understand completely why franchises stick with following a single protagonist/big name actor throughout but it does really limit the scope of interesting concepts and settings. 24 for instance was a really good concept but it always being about Jack Bauer led to it being predictable and silly. Ripley having one or maybe two encounters with the aliens was plausible but every encounter with the aliens made it more and more apparent we were missing out on other, more interesting scenarios. While Alien: Isolation was a good game it just felt silly Amanda Ripley was the protagonist, you're getting into the territory of the Ripley bloodline being akin to the Van Helsings.
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ReV VAdAUL posted:Regardless of how good or bad Weaver is it is nice to be getting Alien films with new protagonists each time. I understand completely why franchises stick with following a single protagonist/big name actor throughout but it does really limit the scope of interesting concepts and settings. 24 for instance was a really good concept but it always being about Jack Bauer led to it being predictable and silly. I like Ripley, I dislike Weaver as far as Aliens goes. People seem to fanboy out when she shows up in stuff now, but I remember her as the person who tried hard to gently caress the franchise with her terrible ideas (like wanting to gently caress a xenomorph). Fine actress but no loving clue about sci-fi stuff.. and thus should stop trying to demand changes that did nothing but hurt all upcoming movies. Hell the only reason we even got the lovely scripts we did is her fighting them. ED: Am I the only one saddened by how batshit insane over the top the Riddick universe is, if only because Pitch Black was so grounded it could have easily been in the same universe as a rival corporation?
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May 6, 2017 11:16
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Blazing Ownager posted:ED: Am I the only one saddened by how batshit insane over the top the Riddick universe is, if only because Pitch Black was so grounded it could have easily been in the same universe as a rival corporation?
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May 6, 2017 11:32
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But then we wouldn't have air elemental Dame Judi Dench. Riddick trying to me-too the alien franchise probably wouldn't have made any of the films any better and would have made them pale imitations instead of their own weird, not entirely successful thing.
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May 6, 2017 11:33
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Blazing Ownager posted:So many wrong votes on this thread. Alien 3 quite literally gave me super-cancer-aids and killed me. I ascended to paradise where I spent 110 days pondering Alien 3. When I returned to Earth riding a chariot of fire and landed on the White House lawn President Obama was there to greet me. He agreed that Alien 3 sucked and declared all copies be burned and the remains launched in to space. Literally.
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UmOk posted:Alien 3 quite literally gave me super-cancer-aids and killed me. I ascended to paradise where I spent 110 days pondering Alien 3. When I returned to Earth riding a chariot of fire and landed on the White House lawn President Obama was there to greet me. He agreed that Alien 3 sucked and declared all copies be burned and the remains launched in to space. please do not spoil the inevitable sequel to Covenant
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Gonz posted:*cut to a few xenos wearing tuxedos tossing a football around in a bulkhead* You're 20 years too late. 
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DC Murderverse posted:please do not spoil the inevitable sequel to Covenant You know I know it's overplayed but all I'm going to think with the android inevitably fucks everyone is "Cure your sudden but inevitable betrayal." If they want to actually surprise anyone, he should legitimately just be helpful. ED: Also they have a whole planet but immediately shot themselves with that "no life" bit. Sure it's cliched spookiness, but I've always wanted to see parts of the ORIGINAL Aliens Vs Predator script brought to life, with all kinds of different animal xenomorphs in the mix. An elephant xenomorph would be awesome, for example. Seriously I have no idea who we got from a admittedly needing polish but rad script about a space colony that setup in an old Predator hunting ground without realizing it, waking up the Xenomorphs and imploding into chaos while a Predator "clean up man" shows up to wipe them out. gently caress, the only part they kept was the lead woman and the Predator teaming up at the end, but it seemed way cooler in that script, earning it's respect after literally fighting a beefier, bigger than normal xenomorph with a discarded Predator spear, echoing the kind of respect given for beating a Predator in Predator 2. A little dialogue cleaning up and a bit of polish and that'd been a loving fun movie that wouldn't have felt like a bullshit gimmick from point A. Instead we got an alien WWE match in a mayan temple in the early 2000s. What the gently caress. Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 15:10 on May 6, 2017 |
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May 6, 2017 15:01
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Xenomrph posted:You're 20 years too late. 
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I think a xeno wore a smoking jacket on The Critic as well
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Hmmm... I could swear I remember a cartoon with the alien putting on a smoking jacket and talking in a posh accent instead of killing people! Here's the Critic's joke: https://youtu.be/Y40NxWUlP-g
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May 6, 2017 15:40
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Blazing Ownager posted:If they want to actually surprise anyone, he should legitimately just be helpful. They covered that base in the second Alien film, it was called 'Aliens'.
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Payndz posted:No, the dissonance of setting between Pitch Black and Riddick bugged me too. It felt like going from near-future space truckers to Warhammer 40K. This is EXACTLY why I was not thrilled with Aliens. Sooooo....
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Blazing Ownager posted:A little dialogue cleaning up and a bit of polish and that'd been a loving fun movie that wouldn't have felt like a bullshit gimmick from point A. Instead we got an alien WWE match in a mayan temple in the early 2000s. What the gently caress. I've always felt this ways since AvP1 was announced, that the only way an AvP movie has the potential of being good is if they say gently caress it and actually have it set at the same time as Aliens so we can have space colonies/etc. stuff going on. In the novel that AvP script takes a lot from, hunting humans is illegal because the Predators have this arbitrary (I guess sort of like faster than light travel in Star Trek) threshold of like "these folks have ____ level of technology so obviously they're sentient," which I found interesting because it lends to the idea the Predators we see in the first two movies are weekend warrior poaching assholes, but in I think in the book it added a little bit of personality to the predators regarding what kind of stuff they preferred to hunt vs. what someone in a given caste/whatever was allowed to hunt or lead others on a hunt to and so on. The Predators aren't particularly developed but having their entire society built around how they evaluate other life forms, and them seeing all life forms as potential prey or not and being kind reclusive beyond that is cool because it gives them human-like qualities while still making them totally inhuman in how their society functions. I mean even the AvP arcade game Capcom did was cool with that. I liked how there were two Predators to play as with different dialogue (not that there's a lot in the game), one is like more intellectual and fights more gracefully and resembles the Predator in the first two movies. The other is built like the heavy dudes we ended up getting in the AvP movie and is angry that he's wasting time in this dump having to interact with anyone beyond killing poo poo. All three Riddick films are awesome.
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It makes sense for the Predators to have a technology threshold, it would probably be the point where a species could become an actual threat to their homeworld. Weren't the Elephant-looking Space Jockeys briefly in one of the AVP novels as well?
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You know out of question, how the hell did Xenomorphs become a go to name for Aliens or for that matter where the gently caress does the name Yautja come from.
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Gorman calls the Aliens Xenomorphs in Aliens. Yautja is from the EU though.
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Payndz posted:Ha, guess Fox weren't as strict with comics licencees back then. Henry Flint, artist on the Judge Dredd/Aliens crossover, said he was given a long list of things he wasn't allowed to do with the aliens, including mocking them in any way. The example he gave was that if one got hit, he couldn't draw stars spinning around its head. To be fair, it's just the cover of the comic - there aren't any tux-wearing Aliens in the comic itself.
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Xenomrph posted:To be fair, it's just the cover of the comic - there aren't any tux-wearing Aliens in the comic itself. This is literally as disappointing to me as when I saw Alien Resurrection on opening day.
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Chronicles of Riddick is Conan the Barbarian in space. And it is good.
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Blazing Ownager posted:I like Ripley, I dislike Weaver as far as Aliens goes. People seem to fanboy out when she shows up in stuff now, but I remember her as the person who tried hard to gently caress the franchise with her terrible ideas (like wanting to gently caress a xenomorph). Alien is one of the most sexually charged films ever made. The main creature is a giant bio mechanical, penis headed, cum drooling space rapist. Every part of that Derelict ship is genitalia. The facehugger impregnates people forcefully. Ash tries to give Ripley oral sex via a porn magazine, while in a section of a room covered in porn. Smarter people will find more subtext stuff... I mean, yeah the films went away from the sexual things, but it's not like Weaver just went "Oh, I want to gently caress an Alien because!" There was a reason, and had the films stuck with Giger's designs, and Alien's tone, it would've worked better.
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Does sexual subtext make a movie good?
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UmOk posted:Does sexual subtext make a movie good? Yes because it's the most adult of subtext. it's not a subtext for children like found in action movies.
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CelticPredator posted:Smarter people will find more subtext stuff... I always wondered about this, so like, the androids all have white fluid instead of blood coursing through them. But without that context and just looking at Alien and how he drools some of it out and goes crazy... In the first scene where they're eating Ash doesn't actually eat any food (I forget if Androids even need to ingest anything or not but I assume they have to take in some stuff because they're more biological than mechanical), he just chugs milk. In the second eating scene when the alien bursts out, he serves himself a handful of cereal without milk. I don't know where I'm going with this but it's like he just literally overloaded his body with milk.
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Neo Rasa posted:I don't know where I'm going with this but it's like he just literally overloaded his body with milk. It does a(n artificial) body good.
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UmOk posted:Does sexual subtext make a movie good? That's a fake question, because sexuality already exists. People have psychologies. The question is how a given film makes use of this. In any case, it's funny that people are clutching pearls over sex in the 'incest/rape series where John Hurt gets hosed in mouth by a crab' thread.
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brocked posted:Hmmm... I could swear I remember a cartoon with the alien putting on a smoking jacket and talking in a posh accent instead of killing people! Here's the Critic's joke: You're thinking of the raptor in Jurassic Park. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nerv5YEiJok
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wyoming posted:You're thinking of the raptor in Jurassic Park. Which is a gag STOLEN from Gremlins 2.
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wyoming posted:You're thinking of the raptor in Jurassic Park. Nice! There it is.... I would also watch Aliens vs Predator vs Jurassic Park
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ReV VAdAUL posted:Gorman calls the Aliens Xenomorphs in Aliens. Yautja is from the EU though. The funniest thing about that is that the actual line makes it clear that "Xenomorph" isn't in any way, shape or form the name of the Alien. Like the entire point of the line is that Gorman goes "A xenomorph may be involved" which is clearly some catch-all term and they except it to be something they're familiar with, not "they've seen Aliens before and are expecting it."
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Alien 3 Ripley straight up calls it a Xenomorph.
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Dan Didio posted:That line is non-canon. I am non-canon
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