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Baseball is basically just a series of one on one matchups that lends itself very well to statistical analysis. Hockey is played on ice. There are lots of foreign participants. Big bodies are present. Truculence is a factor. You have to play the right way.
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the rehabilitation of justin schultz's reputation also had little to do with his fancy stats and everything to do with his traditional stats - 12G/39A/51P/+27 in this last season, which puts him in the top 10 for all of those stats among d-men except goals
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Pornographic Memory posted:the rehabilitation of justin schultz's reputation also had little to do with his fancy stats and everything to do with his traditional stats - 12G/39A/51P/+27 in this last season, which puts him in the top 10 for all of those stats among d-men except goals Brady Anderson hit 51 dingers one season, sooooooo...
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From the analytics conference yesterday by far the coolest advanced stats thing was from SMT, the company that introduced the glowing Fox puck. They used IR tracking during the world cup and were able to create 3D game data, which leads to stuff like which players can pick corners in game situations, which players can get open in scoring areas (whether or not their teammates get them the puck), which players are effective at blocking high-danger shots, how fast different types of shots are (and how fast different players shoot the puck in game situations), etc. It's probably 10+ years away from really being used but that stuff is incredibly cool and not just shots as a substitute for possession. e: Also Timo Seppa had a talk about text mining scouting reports to improve drafting. It was really cool, a novel way of looking at the stats vs scouts question. http://statsportsconsulting.com/main/wp-content/uploads/TextMiningScoutingNHLDraftAnalyticsFeb2017.pdf Turns out scouts are pretty good at their jobs, it just doesn't always translate to how teams actually draft. Jordan7hm fucked around with this message at 18:58 on May 7, 2017 |
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May 7, 2017 18:54
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Jordan7hm posted:From the analytics conference yesterday by far the coolest advanced stats thing was from SMT, the company that introduced the glowing Fox puck. They used IR tracking during the world cup and were able to create 3D game data, which leads to stuff like which players can pick corners in game situations, which players can get open in scoring areas (whether or not their teammates get them the puck), which players are effective at blocking high-danger shots, how fast different types of shots are (and how fast different players shoot the puck in game situations), etc. It's probably 10+ years away from really being used but that stuff is incredibly cool and not just shots as a substitute for possession. As can be shown by any of those articles that replace a GM with a hypothetical potato that only drafts kids by their scout rankings
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https://twitter.com/EdmontonOilers/status/861244081988554753 Cool, glad Getzlaf was able to get away with injuring Sekera on a late hit.
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May 7, 2017 19:25
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Kilza posted:https://twitter.com/EdmontonOilers/status/861244081988554753 
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Glad I'm not gonna be able to watch the game tonight. Gut-shots like game 5 was take teams out of serieses. Expect the Oilers to be listless and uncoordinated.
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May 7, 2017 20:01
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I got tickets for game 6. Looking forward to the riots tonight!
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May 7, 2017 21:22
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Can all Sens games be Saturday matinee games that go to OT? Because we seem to do pretty well at those.
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May 7, 2017 21:25
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Kilza posted:https://twitter.com/EdmontonOilers/status/861244081988554753 the NHL has a very consistent track record of not giving a gently caress about late hits causing injury in the regular season,
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May 7, 2017 21:27
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Washington needs to beat the Pens, and make it to the cup finals, so that Nashville can beat them in game 7 OT, off of a Forsberg goal, that gets double reviewed
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Kilza posted:https://twitter.com/EdmontonOilers/status/861244081988554753 bettman lied oilers died
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JawKnee posted:Washington needs to beat the Pens, and make it to the cup finals, so that Nashville can beat them in game 7 OT, off of a Forsberg goal, that gets double reviewed Beats losing to Pittsburgh again, I suppose.
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JawKnee posted:Washington needs to beat the Pens, and make it to the cup finals, so that Nashville can beat them in game 7 OT, off of a Forsberg goal, that gets double reviewed Your most optimistic vision of the future is seeing the NHL ruin a Game 7 Stanley Cup Final OT game winning goal with a referee review?
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May 7, 2017 22:59
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who said anything about optimism? I'm here for humor and gnashing of teeth
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Chad Sexington posted:Your most optimistic vision of the future is seeing the NHL ruin a Game 7 Stanley Cup Final OT game winning goal with a referee review? Hasek just woke up and he doesn't know why
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May 7, 2017 23:02
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GET THIS DISTRACTION OUT OF HERE https://twitter.com/AdamVingan/status/861342510068764672
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May 7, 2017 23:14
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Siroc posted:GET THIS DISTRACTION OUT OF HERE Oh man is there a video of this?
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HappyHippo posted:Oh man is there a video of this? https://twitter.com/diamondhockey/status/861346523963166720 Not yet. Hopefully soon. Will keep you updated.
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May 7, 2017 23:28
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Siroc posted:GET THIS DISTRACTION OUT OF HERE If the Pens don't make it it absolutely has to be the Preds that win the cup so I can read all the hot takes from the talking heads that defended trading this beautiful man for Shea Weber
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May 7, 2017 23:30
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Best part about the Jultz redemption is that everyone knew it was going to happen because Edmonton was (is?) a wasteland of squandered talent that only very very recently turned things around. Oil fans on this very board were adamant that he was an awful player and would never be any good because they could not bear the fact that maybe their franchise was very bad with shaping young talent.
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Heliogabalos posted:the NHL has a very consistent track record of not giving a gently caress about late hits causing injury in the regular season, To clarify, I know the late hit isn't suspension worthy or anything. At most it's a penalty. It's just frustrating to see it happen. Anyways, Oilers are done: https://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/861349882845552640 No Klefbom, no Sekera, that's it. Refs hosed us over Games 4 and 5, and now there's no way the Oilers D can hold up with both Klefbom and Sekera out.
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:If the Pens don't make it it absolutely has to be the Preds that win the cup so I can read all the hot takes from the talking heads that defended trading this beautiful man for Shea Weber Don't be greedy, you just got one.
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:If the Pens don't make it it absolutely has to be the Preds that win the cup so I can read all the hot takes from the talking heads that defended trading this beautiful man for Shea Weber The Rangers are still "in it" and I kinda want the Preds to win it all.
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yellowcar posted:Round 3 is just a formality at this point. You'd think WKRN would know what just happened on their own station, but nope.
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Jonny Nox posted:Glad I'm not gonna be able to watch the game tonight. Gut-shots like game 5 was take teams out of serieses. Expect the Oilers to be listless and uncoordinated. Laughing at this post pretty hard right now.
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z0331 posted:Laughing at this post pretty hard right now. I'm so happy to be wrong. Just got home and decided I might as well check the score.  fake edit: Honestly I've seen plenty of teams give up after a game like the last one. I should have known after the Sharks put up 7 on them that this is a more special group.
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z0331 posted:Laughing at this post pretty hard right now. 7-1 is the most dangerous lead in hockey
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Oilers fans are fuckin stupid
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The Golden Man posted:Oilers fans are fuckin stupid Like me, I just turned the game on.
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The Golden Man posted:Oilers fans are fuckin stupid
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The Golden Man posted:Oilers fans are fuckin stupid Stupid yes. But don't call me an Oilers fan.
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Kilza is 2 for 2 on  's. My dogger got the golden touch. Tell me which startup is totally going to collapse and sell their holdings tomorrow dude. Daddy needs a win!
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iospace posted:I hate advanced stats. Some of them are good (such as WHIP and OPS for baseball), but most of them are for the stats (and fantasy) nerds to circle jerk over because gently caress intangibles, I guess. I mean that and for teams to make actual educated decisions on who to play, who's worth money and who not to sign. IE: the opposite of the David Nonis leafs. e: or the Bergevin Canadiens e: also Schultz's "redemption" isn't even anything noteworthy. He thrives in sheltered minutes, the oilers refused to shelter him apart from his third season with them. He's also taking advantage of an effective powerplay in Pittsburgh. It's not hard to figure out. Edmonton tried playing him like a number one guy and refused to budge. Technetium fucked around with this message at 03:26 on May 8, 2017 |
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The Golden Man posted:Oilers fans are fuckin stupid
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Siroc posted:https://twitter.com/diamondhockey/status/861346523963166720  Good for you PK
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