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Sushi in Yiddish: Feb 2, 2008

Troy McClure to star in:
https://twitter.com/THR/status/861600366902824961

# ? May 8, 2017 16:37

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Conrad_Birdie: Jul 10, 2009; I WAS THERE
WHEN CODY RHODES
FINISHED THE STORY

My confession is I really like Hamilton and I'm also a paying Grey Wolf but I also appreciate and feel their criticisms about it are absolutely valid. Idk, I dig musical theater.

# ? May 8, 2017 17:08

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

Matt Zerella posted:

Eh, Satisfied is still a pretty great song.

every song that wasn't done by Lin is pretty fuckin solid, every song Lin is in is medicore at best.

Hamilton by all rights should have been a completely mundane 'yea that was fun, ok what are we doing now?' Broadway show like (insert 99% of Broadway here) but for some reason we attached ourselves to it as a culture to give it some grand higher meaning. It's like if people decided Into The Woods was actually BRILLIANT and LIFE CHANGING and something EVERYONE NEEDS TO SEE instead of just 'yea that was a fun way to kill an evening, let's go do something else and maybe hum a few of the catchier tunes while we do'.

Lin is a really fuckin bad rapper though. Like, the fact that others can do rap he wrote better just proves that fact.

1776 is miles better though. If you want a musical that doesn't give a gently caress about historical accuracy in the name of telling a story you should check that out instead of Everyone Wants To Ride Hamilton's Cock: The Musical, Also His Shitbag Son Did Nothing Wrong And Was An Angel And Not A Weird Privileged gently caress That Started Fights And Got Mad When Someone Took Him Up On The Offer.

# ? May 8, 2017 17:23

The Crotch: Oct 16, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

https://twitter.com/PissPigGrandma/status/861287918664470528

Can't keep a good Troop down.

# ? May 8, 2017 17:33

Conrad_Birdie: Jul 10, 2009; I WAS THERE
WHEN CODY RHODES
FINISHED THE STORY

sexpig by night posted:

every song that wasn't done by Lin is pretty fuckin solid, every song Lin is in is medicore at best.

Hamilton by all rights should have been a completely mundane 'yea that was fun, ok what are we doing now?' Broadway show like (insert 99% of Broadway here) but for some reason we attached ourselves to it as a culture to give it some grand higher meaning. It's like if people decided Into The Woods was actually BRILLIANT and LIFE CHANGING and something EVERYONE NEEDS TO SEE instead of just 'yea that was a fun way to kill an evening, let's go do something else and maybe hum a few of the catchier tunes while we do'.

Lin is a really fuckin bad rapper though. Like, the fact that others can do rap he wrote better just proves that fact.

1776 is miles better though. If you want a musical that doesn't give a gently caress about historical accuracy in the name of telling a story you should check that out instead of Everyone Wants To Ride Hamilton's Cock: The Musical, Also His Shitbag Son Did Nothing Wrong And Was An Angel And Not A Weird Privileged gently caress That Started Fights And Got Mad When Someone Took Him Up On The Offer.

counterpoint: 1776 sucks balls and forgets to be a musical for long stretches of time and Hamilton explicitly shows Phillip Hamilton as a cocksure rear end in a top hat who starts fights and then gets chumped for being a dick.

Also Into the Woods IS pretty drat good and brilliant. If we wanna go real galaxy mind with this though, Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson is probably the best presidential musical, being a good parody of Andrew Jackson's life AND emo music of the mid-2000's.

# ? May 8, 2017 17:33

MikeCrotch: Nov 5, 2011; I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

Famethrowa posted:

Man, I must be really brainwashed by capital, because I find myself involuntarily rolling my eyes at the "life without work" discussion. Anyone catch the book she referenced so I can stop being such a capitalist shill?

I think "life without work" is probably a bit far at the minute, but a good way to think about is:

- If workers are becoming more productive
- And automation is reducing the amount of actual work that needs to be done
- Yet people are working longer hours for less real pay

Who is benefiting from the current amount of work being done?

# ? May 8, 2017 17:37

EverettLO: Jul 2, 2007; I'm a lurker no more

Tim Faust used the 'A Good Cartoon' meme from the D&D polititoons thread. I only mention this because pages of argument over who is or is not a goon cures my erectile dysfunction.

# ? May 8, 2017 17:46

Forums Terrorist: Dec 8, 2011

EverettLO posted:

Tim Faust used the 'A Good Cartoon' meme from the D&D polititoons thread. I only mention this because pages of argument over who is or is not a goon cures my erectile dysfunction.

you fucker that originated in lf

literally shaking at this shameless cultural appropriation

# ? May 8, 2017 17:48

Slanderer: May 6, 2007

Conrad_Birdie posted:

Also Into the Woods IS pretty drat good and brilliant.

Into the woods is a loving war crime. Stephen Sondheim is a hack and deserves scorn and also a public execution

this is fact not opinion

# ? May 8, 2017 17:48

GalacticAcid: Apr 8, 2013; NEW YORK VALUES

Soho Rep's Futurity was the best political musical ever made.

# ? May 8, 2017 17:54

Conrad_Birdie: Jul 10, 2009; I WAS THERE
WHEN CODY RHODES
FINISHED THE STORY

Slanderer posted:

Into the woods is a loving war crime. Stephen Sondheim is a hack and deserves scorn and also a public execution

this is fact not opinion

this is the worst troll in this thread so far

# ? May 8, 2017 17:55

Impermanent: Apr 1, 2010

the most relevant political musical is Assassins. second most is Les Miserables.

Hamilton made rap accessible to a segment of America that otherwise wouldn't give it the time of day, much like Vanilla Ice and Eminem, and deserves roughly their place in the pantheon of rap that's talked about (shouldn't be your favorite, ok to like, please don't evangelize for it.)

No broadway musical has been dangerous or edgy in a political context since forever. Hamilton's bougie propaganda but at least it doesn't mix AIDS grief tourism and ~artistic suffering~ and dress it up like that's a statement like Rent does. Hamilton does the same thing for democrats that Avenue Q did for the pre-recession college grads and Book of Mormon does for new atheists - enforce a worldview that perfectly situates the viewer within their own manufactured paradigm.

Remember: this is the same industry that covered Argentinian politics by way of giving evita peron a lifepath analagous to a hollywood starlet. Maybe 5 people with power in the industry in total give a poo poo about anything outside of their opera boxes.

# ? May 8, 2017 17:57

Conrad_Birdie: Jul 10, 2009; I WAS THERE
WHEN CODY RHODES
FINISHED THE STORY

Impermanent posted:

the most relevant political musical is Assassins. second most is Les Miserables.

Hamilton made rap accessible to a segment of America that otherwise wouldn't give it the time of day, much like Vanilla Ice and Eminem, and deserves roughly their place in the pantheon of rap that's talked about (shouldn't be your favorite, ok to like, please don't evangelize for it.)

No broadway musical has been dangerous or edgy in a political context since forever. Hamilton's bougie propaganda but at least it doesn't mix AIDS grief tourism and ~artistic suffering~ and dress it up like that's a statement like Rent does. Hamilton does the same thing for democrats that Avenue Q did for the pre-recession college grads and Book of Mormon does for new atheists - enforce a worldview that perfectly situates the viewer within their own manufactured paradigm.

Remember: this is the same industry that covered Argentinian politics by way of giving evita peron a lifepath analagous to a hollywood starlet. Maybe 5 people with power in the industry in total give a poo poo about anything outside of their opera boxes.

gently caress you're right, assassins is best. totally forgot about it. a fool.

# ? May 8, 2017 17:58

Gorn Myson: Aug 8, 2007

Conrad_Birdie posted:

My confession is I really like Hamilton and I'm also a paying Grey Wolf but I also appreciate and feel their criticisms about it are absolutely valid. Idk, I dig musical theater.

Eh, who cares. I love Zak Snyder movies and even thoughy their criticism of them gets really weird at points, I still really enjoy the episodes where they reviewed them.

# ? May 8, 2017 18:07

Uncle Boogeyman: Jul 22, 2007

Assassins kicks a lot of rear end

# ? May 8, 2017 18:10

EverettLO: Jul 2, 2007; I'm a lurker no more

Forums Terrorist posted:

you fucker that originated in lf

literally shaking at this shameless cultural appropriation

I like to think that post-ABBoK LF never happened.

# ? May 8, 2017 18:11

long-ass nips Diane: Dec 13, 2010; Breathe.

Assassins fuckin rules

# ? May 8, 2017 18:14

Owlbear Camus: Jan 3, 2013; Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?

Gorn Myson posted:

Eh, who cares. I love Zak Snyder movies and even thoughy their criticism of them gets really weird at points, I still really enjoy the episodes where they reviewed them.

I liked his Dawn of the Dead remake pretty well.

# ? May 8, 2017 18:27

KirbyKhan: Mar 20, 2009; Soiled Meat

Impermanent posted:

the most relevant political musical is Assassins. second most is Les Miserables.

Hamilton made rap accessible to a segment of America that otherwise wouldn't give it the time of day, much like Vanilla Ice and Eminem, and deserves roughly their place in the pantheon of rap that's talked about (shouldn't be your favorite, ok to like, please don't evangelize for it.)

No broadway musical has been dangerous or edgy in a political context since forever. Hamilton's bougie propaganda but at least it doesn't mix AIDS grief tourism and ~artistic suffering~ and dress it up like that's a statement like Rent does. Hamilton does the same thing for democrats that Avenue Q did for the pre-recession college grads and Book of Mormon does for new atheists - enforce a worldview that perfectly situates the viewer within their own manufactured paradigm.

Remember: this is the same industry that covered Argentinian politics by way of giving evita peron a lifepath analagous to a hollywood starlet. Maybe 5 people with power in the industry in total give a poo poo about anything outside of their opera boxes.

This isn't the first time I've heard the bolded part. Book of Moran was a fun show to see during my one vacation to New York. I didn't catch any atheism boosting, just silly factoids about the Mormon belief IE: Jesus live on planet Kolab and God got cool with black people in 1978.

# ? May 8, 2017 18:28

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

I forgot about Assassins, everyone just go enjoy that somehow

# ? May 8, 2017 18:31

eonwe: Aug 11, 2008; Lipstick Apathy

Sushi in Yiddish posted:

She references a couple in her article: https://newrepublic.com/article/141663/united-states-work
I'll admit I'm not at the Fully Automated Luxury Communism step towards leftism but I'll probably get there eventually. The idea of not working or working less is probably one of the most difficult things to imagine as an American within a generation or two.

Welcome commando, did you start from the beginning or from a recent ep?

started with 106

# ? May 8, 2017 18:36

Impermanent: Apr 1, 2010

KirbyKhan posted:

This isn't the first time I've heard the bolded part. Book of Moran was a fun show to see during my one vacation to New York. I didn't catch any atheism boosting, just silly factoids about the Mormon belief IE: Jesus live on planet Kolab and God got cool with black people in 1978.

Like Hamilton doesn't come out and say "liberalism and the democratic party are the bearers of the tradition of the founding fathers, plus hamilton is totally a representative figure of modern day PoC, look at how good he raps WITH HIS OWN BOOTSTRAPS" (although hamilton does come pretty close to this) the new atheist propaganda in book of mormon comes from its subtext. It's got a lot of very correct claims about the damage of fundamentalism, but it is fundamentally a story about how naive repetition of existing stories traps people within existing oppression, while changing stories according to the context you're in is the way to help people around you. It's not egregious or anything, but it does totally conform to a new atheist type of spirituality and sentiment - which is the point.

# ? May 8, 2017 18:41

Kunster: Dec 24, 2006

There was this 3rd point people they glossed over regarding UBI/Work No Longer being a thing (Which only framed on dreamless liberals and calvinist jerks), which would be that it would outright gut a lot of services that do address the more vulnerable (Disabled folk coming to mind) on the excuse they were already getting money thru UBI, explaining part why that sorta stuff appealed a bunch to Cato Institute types.

# ? May 8, 2017 18:46

Nanomashoes: Aug 18, 2012

Christman finally confronts his true enemy: Prestige TV
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/05/how-tv-became-respectable-without-getting-better

# ? May 8, 2017 18:51

AngryBooch: Sep 26, 2009

Nanomashoes posted:

Christman finally confronts his true enemy: Prestige TV
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/05/how-tv-became-respectable-without-getting-better

"Prestige television is the opiate of the masses"

# ? May 8, 2017 19:07

Wrestlepig: Feb 25, 2011; my mum says im cool; Toilet Rascal

Kunster posted:

There was this 3rd point people they glossed over regarding UBI/Work No Longer being a thing (Which only framed on dreamless liberals and calvinist jerks), which would be that it would outright gut a lot of services that do address the more vulnerable (Disabled folk coming to mind) on the excuse they were already getting money thru UBI, explaining part why that sorta stuff appealed a bunch to Cato Institute types.

That'd just be a changing of names, not really appoint of concern.

# ? May 8, 2017 19:16

100 degrees Calcium: Jan 23, 2011

I love that hairy shouting marxist.

# ? May 8, 2017 19:18

GalacticAcid: Apr 8, 2013; NEW YORK VALUES

Looks like a certain poster was ahead of his time with these gems from April 2016.

GalacticAcid posted:

All television programs are garbage of no lasting artistic value. You will not rewatch Breaking Bad in twenty years, whereas you have probably watched a > twenty year old movie in the past couple weeks.

GalacticAcid posted:

I don't care, I loving hate TV.

Every series has contrived and bullshit moments and require like a year of involvement for a one-episode underwhelming playoff. If I lived in a shithole city and hated my life, I would see the appeal of laying on a couch all day and zoning out to retarded water cooler convo fodder.

Movies are complete, standalone works and great movies will always be inherently better than great "prestige television."

And bonus quote from the same page of that thread...

GalacticAcid posted:

I'd rather hear old guys play the banjo than see "Hamilton", a hip hop musical about men in breeches.

I only remember these because my hatred for tee vee provoked an outpouring of care and mad.

# ? May 8, 2017 19:21

little munchkin: Aug 15, 2010

GalacticAcid posted:

Looks like a certain poster was ahead of his time with these gems from April 2016.

And bonus quote from the same page of that thread...

I only remember these because my hatred for tee vee provoked an outpouring of care and mad.

congrats on having the same opinion as a clickbait hand-wringing thinkpiece, op

# ? May 8, 2017 19:30

Wise Fwom Yo Gwave: Jan 9, 2006; Popping up from out of nowhere...

Nanomashoes posted:

Christman finally confronts his true enemy: Prestige TV
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/05/how-tv-became-respectable-without-getting-better

I thought his true enemy was being upright?

# ? May 8, 2017 19:32

GalacticAcid: Apr 8, 2013; NEW YORK VALUES

little munchkin posted:

congrats on having the same opinion as a clickbait hand-wringing thinkpiece, op

Thanks dude, always feels good having my posts reemerge as snackable content

# ? May 8, 2017 19:32

The REAL Goobusters: Apr 25, 2008

Westworld really loving sucked

# ? May 8, 2017 19:48

Kunster: Dec 24, 2006

rumble in the bunghole posted:

That'd just be a changing of names, not really appoint of concern.

It still had some flow going on with some communist pals of mine. Even if minor, it would still be worth a sentence or two to address services that do require a bit more than just basic income to address.

# ? May 8, 2017 19:51

Owlbear Camus: Jan 3, 2013; Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?

i am mad.

mad at entertainment.

Kunster posted:

It still had some flow going on with some communist pals of mine. Even if minor, it would still be worth a sentence or two to address services that do require a bit more than just basic income to address.

I'd sell it as "lost opportunity income stipend" or whatever. If you can't work you don't got the same opportunity to add to your UBI as the next dude. I think most folks could get their head around it.

A sound policy proposal from me, posting in the something awful thread about a podcast.

Owlbear Camus fucked around with this message at 19:57 on May 8, 2017

# ? May 8, 2017 19:54