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Conrad_Birdie posted:this is the worst troll in this thread so far "you know what would sound real sweet? a dissonant pile of poo poo that i threw together in a weekend" - the vile sondheim
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Looks like a certain poster was ahead of his time with these gems from April 2016.
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Problem with the Wire is how it promoted the concept of the virtous cop. Having the cops be protagonists in a city with some of the worst police brutality in real life was pretty gross. Still enjoyable television, but not worthy of the thousands of college freshmen lecturing people at parties to "watch the wire and you'll totally get it man"
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All 5 seasons of The Wire's theme song sucked.
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Halloween Jack posted:All 5 seasons of The Wire's theme song sucked. hosed up and untrue
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Famethrowa posted:Problem with the Wire is how it promoted the concept of the virtous cop. Having the cops be protagonists in a city with some of the worst police brutality in real life was pretty gross. It also frequently showed police brutality and its effects on civilians
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Famethrowa posted:Problem with the Wire is how it promoted the concept of the virtous cop. Having the cops be protagonists in a city with some of the worst police brutality in real life was pretty gross. did you even watch the show?
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the wire is the best show i've ever seen and season 2 is the best season. chapo doesn't seem to understand the show, but that's okay
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little munchkin posted:did you even watch the show? It was more chummy animosity than the brutal antagonism that existed/exists. Herc was lightly roughing kids up in S1 and then Bunk was doing the fake lie detector in S4.
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Prez blinded that kid in one eye. There's also that Colvin speech at the end of Season 3 about how modern cops are awful at the actual "policing" thing
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On the most recent ep. Was it time Faust saying about the French article "it's a good cartoon" Further evidence that chapo is simply the forums as a podcast.
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matt needs to watch the Leftovers, the best show on TV
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:matt needs to watch the Leftovers, the best show on TV 
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The Unnamed One posted:Prez blinded that kid in one eye. Also that Nazi looking guy broke a kid's finger and there was an interrogation scene where they deliberately beat the poo poo out of a guy just for being an rear end in a top hat.
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:matt needs to watch the Leftovers, the best show on TV S1 didn't grab me, much as I like the basic conceit of "Left Behind, but if people actually behaved like real human beings." Should I give it another chance?
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Guy Goodbody posted:Matt needs to watch anime. The dry boys are way too booj.
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Pac-Manioc Root posted:S1 didn't grab me, much as I like the basic conceit of "Left Behind, but if people actually behaved like real human beings." I am in this boat but supposedly it got way better
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Pac-Manioc Root posted:S1 didn't grab me, much as I like the basic conceit of "Left Behind, but if people actually behaved like real human beings." imo season 2 is the best season of tv ever made (that i've seen) maybe that sets up too high of expectations, but yes give it another chance Wraith of J.O.I. fucked around with this message at 21:47 on May 8, 2017 |
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Brutality happened, but it was either 1. Terrible cops who are basically Hitler or 2. Redeemed by being a selfless teacher at a inner city school or being a mentor rushing to a hospital to be upset about "one of the good ones" Didn't do nearly enough go make clear just how pervasive and structurally institutional brutality in police departments, and that's it's not just bad apples. Instead, it tried to have its cake and eat it too by still somehow having cops be virtous. edit: s1 and s2 were good about it, but s3 really walked back a lot of it with the school storyline Famethrowa fucked around with this message at 21:42 on May 8, 2017 |
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I think it's possible to grade Hamilton (the musical) and Hamilton (the sociopolitical phenomenon) as almost separate things using different rubrics. The quality of the show or music itself doesn't necessarily relate to how it became a symbol of an out-of-touch liberal elite elevating something to such a degree that not only did it become financially unavailable to the public that these people are preaching its virtues at, but even became a replacement for actual policy to help people. The fact that these idiots literally raised money to try and get underprivileged kids to see the show (because it was prohibitively expensive to see thanks to demand and all the hype around it propagated by the very same people raising said money) in lieu of actually using the same passion and resources to address the fundamental issues said poor children actually face in educational disadvantages/hunger/healthcare is something worth discussing; but whether that makes the musical itself bad is another thing entirely. Hamilton became a useful synecdoche for a lot of the things liberals have hypocritically lauded but placed an undue premium on, coinciding with things like charter schools or Whole Foods as replacement for healthcare and food deserts: a "let them eat cake" for the Obama/Trump era. Unfortunately I have no idea whether this social phenomenon is because of the ideology within the show itself, or if it is by pure happenstance.
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Nanomashoes posted:Christman finally confronts his true enemy: Prestige TV Counterpoint: NEW TWIN PEAKS IN TWO WEEKS MOTHERFUCKER WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Also Westworld got me through a 30-hour round trip flight I had to take because of a family health emergency, so I like it just fine
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Breath of the Wild is better than Breaking Bad and The Wire combined.
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little munchkin posted:i'm glad all these people came in here and explained to us that Hamilton fans don't actually have lovely politics, they actually have lovely taste in music lmao
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the most politically accurate game ever made is Fatal Fury
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Alaois posted:the most politically accurate game ever made is Fatal Fury I thought it was Streets of Rage 
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Kunster posted:There was this 3rd point people they glossed over regarding UBI/Work No Longer being a thing (Which only framed on dreamless liberals and calvinist jerks), which would be that it would outright gut a lot of services that do address the more vulnerable (Disabled folk coming to mind) on the excuse they were already getting money thru UBI, explaining part why that sorta stuff appealed a bunch to Cato Institute types. This episode made me depressed as gently caress because Matt bothered bringing up the elephant in the room (when automation replaces a need for human labor, citizens are going to lose their relevance to pretty much any political/economic system) and nobody had anything resembling a solution and they immediately reverted to contemporary complaints about capitalism. Is there any viable vision of the future outside transhumanism that can assuage my anxiety about all this stuff?
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EverettLO posted:Tim Faust used the 'A Good Cartoon' meme from the D&D polititoons thread. I only mention this because pages of argument over who is or is not a goon cures my erectile dysfunction. lol came here to post this
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Conrad_Birdie posted:counterpoint: 1776 sucks balls and forgets to be a musical for long stretches of time and Hamilton explicitly shows Phillip Hamilton as a cocksure rear end in a top hat who starts fights and then gets chumped for being a dick. Counter counterpoint: 1776 owns, gently caress you, Ben Franklin is the best
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snucks posted:This 100%. I think UBI is a lot better than the failed safety net we currently have in place but demand for it needs to be championed by the right, not the left. The global proletariat is going to be liquidated once it becomes superfluous. As automation and artificial intelligence creep onward capital will no longer need any human component at all to perpetuate itself and eventually humanity will be erased, leaving a dead planet full of machines tending machines building machines forever.
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Trabisnikof posted:is But Mr Adams about volcel or incel? Thomas Jefferson plays the Violin, giving his wife triple digit orgasms which inspire him to write the Declaration of Independence
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EverettLO posted:Tim Faust used the 'A Good Cartoon' meme from the D&D polititoons thread. I only mention this because pages of argument over who is or is not a goon cures my erectile dysfunction.
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eonwe posted:I started listening to this yesterday and I'm loving it YAY!!!
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eonwe posted:I started listening to this yesterday and I'm loving it Btw, there are two episodes where they role play a Call of Cthulhu session set in the 1920s. (IMHO though, I wouldn't necessarily skip straight to those, a lot of throw back references to earlier episodes.)
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Neeksy posted:I think it's possible to grade Hamilton (the musical) and Hamilton (the sociopolitical phenomenon) as almost separate things using different rubrics. The quality of the show or music itself doesn't necessarily relate to how it became a symbol of an out-of-touch liberal elite the two are intertwined though if hamilton was just another regular musical with typical showtune type songs it wouldn't have become the liberal shibboleth it is it's because it uses faux-representational diversity and corny early 90s rap to broadcast a sort of cultural authenticity while papering over the historical hamilton's actual anti-democratic politics and by lin manuel miranda's own admission didn't touch slavery to keep the show upbeat that it appeals to a certain set of out of touch liberals The Muppets On PCP fucked around with this message at 00:15 on May 9, 2017 |
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TomViolence posted:The global proletariat is going to be liquidated once it becomes superfluous. As automation and artificial intelligence creep onward capital will no longer need any human component at all to perpetuate itself and eventually humanity will be erased, leaving a dead planet full of machines tending machines building machines forever.  I really need to reread Origins of Totalitarianism and remember what happened to all those superfluous liquidatable people at the beginning of the previous century, surely that will calm my nerves
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TomViolence posted:The global proletariat is going to be liquidated once it becomes superfluous. As automation and artificial intelligence creep onward capital will no longer need any human component at all to perpetuate itself and eventually humanity will be erased, leaving a dead planet full of machines tending machines building machines forever. Hey, I just finished Horizon Zero Dawn too.
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