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jre posted:Massive lol at this not really adding people slows the project down, ideally temporarily (over the course of weeks) but brooks wasn't wrong and people don't still read his poo poo for fun
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Cocoa Crispies posted:not really Hiring right now is loving brutal, and if you're letting a good hire get away because you read the mythical man month last week, loving lol
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Also the reason for the month gap is that their HR and recruitment people are incompetent, and probably their senior management too
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jre posted:Also the reason for the month gap is that their HR and recruitment people are incompetent, and probably their senior management too if they're so deep fighting fires that no one has time to interview and then onboard people, or if their HR dept is obviously incompetent, it'd be like hopping on the last traincar when the front is already plunging down the cliff Bhodi fucked around with this message at 19:54 on May 8, 2017 |
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jre posted:Also the reason for the month gap is that their HR and recruitment people are incompetent, and probably their senior management too i mean, apple took over a month to go from emails to phone screen with me but i figured "it's apple, i'll deal". but if joe's app 'n' crap was like "sorry we were real busy but waiting shows your commitment" i'd tell them to gently caress off.
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The Management posted:I had an hour long shared coding interview with these guys. after silence for a month, they decided they want to continue. their recruiter called me this morning and when I told him I was not interested in continuing he hung up on me. an hour later I got this: say you're interested just so they connect with the engineering team and you can tell them their recruiter is garbage
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poemdexter posted:Say hello to our new employee! to be fair Tumblr is probably the best language for writing modern microaggression services
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DuckConference posted:to be fair Tumblr is probably the best language for writing modern microaggression services holy poo poo
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DuckConference posted:to be fair Tumblr is probably the best language for writing modern microaggression services
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DuckConference posted:to be fair Tumblr is probably the best language for writing modern microaggression services
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DuckConference posted:to be fair Tumblr is probably the best language for writing modern microaggression services jackpot
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lol at listing Prezi on your resume for anything ever
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DuckConference posted:to be fair Tumblr is probably the best language for writing modern microaggression services
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DuckConference posted:to be fair Tumblr is probably the best language for writing modern microaggression services
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DuckConference posted:to be fair Tumblr is probably the best language for writing modern microaggression services
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DuckConference posted:to be fair Tumblr is probably the best language for writing modern microaggression services piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiissssssssssss
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one think I like about contract jobs is there's way less lag, I went from the initial contracting agency contact to an offer in 3 weeks at my current gig
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uh so apparently this contract-to-hire gig is way better than i thought. when we were initially discussing wages i offered up a decent number for salary leaving off the implied thousands and now that we're coming back to discuss final particulars apparently they took (and accepted) that as an hourly wage  kinda hope this job works out now
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so you had a 1 hour shared coding interview, and they wanted to have another phone screen before they scheduled an onsite? and it took a month for them to get back to you? honestly they wasted that dev's hour because so few people are going to respond back positively after a month of waiting unless they're absolutely desperate, which may or may not be what you're looking for in a hire. candidates should get responses on everything no more than 48 business hours after something happens (in the worst case, a response that they'll hear the final answer by X). they should be able to schedule their next event within the next 2 weeks. if you can't do that then you're losing candidates for no fault of your actual lovely culture.
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DuckConference posted:to be fair Tumblr is probably the best language for writing modern microaggression services
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FamDav posted:so you had a 1 hour shared coding interview, and they wanted to have another phone screen before they scheduled an onsite? and it took a month for them to get back to you? yep, mind boggling. it's not like they're even flying me out of town, this two phone screen thing is ridiculous.
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PierreTheMime posted:uh so apparently this contract-to-hire gig is way better than i thought. when we were initially discussing wages i offered up a decent number for salary leaving off the implied thousands and now that we're coming back to discuss final particulars apparently they took (and accepted) that as an hourly wage so they're paying you twice what you asked for?
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The Management posted:so they're paying you twice what you asked for? slightly more than two times yeah. they're having me out wed to view the place and talk with management so it's looking serious. im not sure why this amount reveal concerns me more than the work which is right in line with what I do now, but how on earth does someone think my basic computer touching is worth this
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PierreTheMime posted:slightly more than two times yeah. they're having me out wed to view the place and talk with management so it's looking serious. im not sure why this amount reveal concerns me more than the work which is right in line with what I do now, but how on earth does someone think my basic computer touching is worth this because to them, it is.
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The Management posted:yep, mind boggling. it's not like they're even flying me out of town, this two phone screen thing is ridiculous. manager one passed after having you for final consideration between another candidate. another manager still doesn't have their req filled and manager one passes your resume over to them saying you were good and might be a fit for your team, but they kept terrible notes and manager two doesn't trust manager one so they are essentially starting the whole interview over for a different position with the same title in the department. e: tldr their process is hosed TerminalRaptor fucked around with this message at 22:26 on May 8, 2017 |
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PierreTheMime posted:slightly more than two times yeah. they're having me out wed to view the place and talk with management so it's looking serious. im not sure why this amount reveal concerns me more than the work which is right in line with what I do now, but how on earth does someone think my basic computer touching is worth this if it's a for real contract position then this is normal. be sure to save a lot of it because it also means your contracts will actually be up in the air when they expire
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Rex-Goliath posted:if it's a for real contract position then this is normal. be sure to save a lot of it because it also means your contracts will actually be up in the air when they expire it's a contract with intent to hire. they're going to pay for my training and get me up to speed and if they like me they'll make an offer. at least that's how it's been sold to me from both the recruiter and the company itself
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I have a phone screen with Amazon and the guy has asked if I have any outstanding offers... should I mention that I'm doing interviews with another big company?
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DuckConference posted:I have a phone screen with Amazon and the guy has asked if I have any outstanding offers... should I mention that I'm doing interviews with another big company? "I'd rather not say, and instead focus on how my skillset can help out at Amazon."
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poemdexter posted:"I'd rather not say, and instead focus on how my skillset can help out at Amazon." yeah say this is you were having trouble communicating how weird of a goober you are otherwise "no offers, but I'm actively interviewing, I'll be sure to let you know if I do get any offers or we need to adjust the timetable" its a scheduling question, yo
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DuckConference posted:I have a phone screen with Amazon and the guy has asked if I have any outstanding offers... should I mention that I'm doing interviews with another big company? I would personally, I did when I was interviewing. I don't know if it helped, but it didn't hurt for my current job. It lets them know you're shopping around and might also accelerate the process. I'd say the only time it might hurt is if you're applying for something really specific and want to broadcast that this is ALL you want to do.
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PierreTheMime posted:it's a contract with intent to hire. they're going to pay for my training and get me up to speed and if they like me they'll make an offer. at least that's how it's been sold to me from both the recruiter and the company itself get it in writing.
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Minnesota Mixup posted:get it in writing.  nowhere is going to guarantee you a permanent position but get your figgies while you're contract and it might work out. I've been converted to full time twice in my career and the job before this one it was the only way they hired people JawnV6 posted:if you DO have another offer at any point in the process, let the recruiter know and watch them bend heaven & VP schedules for you then they made a stupid lowball offer and I rejected them
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"wow this guy is perfect for this position, we'd better get an offer out for 10k less than he said his minimum was immediately"
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My company axed our mechanical engineer today. To be fair, they tried for 2 years to get him to become motivated, but it just wasn't a good fit. New guy's name is Doug. He better like beets or I'm not going to like him. 
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today i got to watch my boss and their boss poo poo their pants because i got an offer from another department in the company with a 10% raise and they don't know if they can counter (both are hourly and my company "generally doesn't" allow counter offers for hourly). direct boss knows they wouldn't be in this position if they'd promoted me and given me time to get up to speed instead of boss' boss insisting on going to an agency (which we've never done before) to get someone "with experience" - i put that in quotes because half the job is just learning how our company does things because we're unique and beautiful snowflakes this schadenfreude is tempered by the fact i'm not certain I want other job. lots of pluses, lots of minuses, lots of conflicting advice from mentors/friends. thanks for the void yospos
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