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Everything flight sims have ever taught me makes me scream at this but of course it's pretty much an accurate depiction of pubbie dogfights.
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Kopijeger posted:One book mentioned some starved soldiers reaching a supply depot in East Prussia who gorged themselves on flour and promptly died. Not sure if it was from the flour expanding their stomach or simply refeeding syndrome. Yep, I've heard of this one and the horse piss drinking one too. That retreat was loving horrifying, and people don't mention the Russian armies went through their own smaller scale but just as hosed up reinactment of some of this stuff.
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MikeCrotch posted:Nice experimental thrust vectoring Mustang he's got there Also indestructium airframe. Pretty sure if you could get the plane to pitch that hard in real life you'd just rip the wings off.
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HEY GAL if you have any spare cash you should read Leggiere's biography of Blücher. It's about an eighteenth century dude but lots of his early life is completely in your ballpark. Blücher's military career started from him watching Swedish cavalry on one of the German Baltic islands (Rügen?) as a boy and joining up against his father's wishes. In something like his first real action he got captured by the Prussians and the cavalry officer who caught him, von Belling, decided that he liked young Blücher and made him a cornet on condition he didn't run away. Vincent Van Goatse fucked around with this message at 23:04 on May 8, 2017 |
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Really his life should get a TV mini movie adaption.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:HEY GAL if you have any spare cash you should read Leggiere's biography of Blücher. It's about an eighteenth century dude but lots of his early life is completely in your ballpark.
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What was the draw weight on longbows? I'm under the impression it was crazy high. So as a follow up, how did they use these regularly w presumably mediocre nutrition when their draw weight is way above what's recommended for people now?
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Have you seen how distorted their spines and shoulders would get? I think those weights not being recommended has less to do with a modern person's inability to actually draw them (after training anyway), so much as that it'd be really detrimental to your health.
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WW2 Data More German rounds on display. What foreign round(s) are being shown today? Which hollow-charge ammunition was used as a stopgap munition? Which AA guns have rounds in today's update? What other tapered bore gun are we seeing today? All that and more at the blog!
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Koramei posted:Have you seen how distorted their spines and shoulders would get? I think those weights not being recommended has less to do with a modern person's inability to actually draw them (after training anyway), so much as that it'd be really detrimental to your health. So they just had really terrible shoulder problems etc after? Did people connect this to using the bows?
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It's also important to remember that life expectancy wasn't anything like it is today. I'm sure people with all sorts of high impact jobs (farmer, laborer, miller, fisher to name a few) had bodies by the time they were 35 that had joint problems similar to what you see with a pro athlete today. If you live in the 21st century and can reasonably expect to make it to 80 that's a really big deal. If you can expect to be in the ground before 50 it's not half the issue.
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also the terrible nutrition wasn't every place and time in the past but only certain ones (large cities in england during the first half of the 19th century, western europe during the early 17th century, etc). it's entirely possible that your elite bowmen had been well fed during their childhoods, allowing them to grow up into the kind of barrel chested hulks that this job required
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Cyrano4747 posted:I'm sure people with all sorts of high impact jobs (farmer, laborer, miller, fisher to name a few) had bodies by the time they were 35 that had joint problems similar to what you see with a pro athlete today. quote:The victim, it appeared, had suffered from several chronic and puzzling conditions. A CT scan and digital X-ray revealed a calcification of the knees, as well as a level of arthritis in elbows, hips and lumbar vertebrae surprisingly advanced for anyone this young...
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Wait, so is there actually truth to the whole "legs distorted from a lifetime on the saddle" thing for Mongols and Tatars and so on?
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MrMojok posted:That's the biggest thing that bothers me with the new-er CG-filled WWII movies. They can sure make photorealistic aircraft with computers now, but they often make them move more like TIE fighters than like WWII piston-engine aircraft. Ironic, given that TIE fighters are basically playing the role of 109s.
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HEY GAIL posted:http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/csi-italian-renaissance-4796118/ I'm the pathologist who thinks an Early Renaissance nobleman couldn't have been an alcoholic because there wasn't hard liquor available. It's not like Italy had vinyards or anything.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I'm the pathologist who thinks an Early Renaissance nobleman couldn't have been an alcoholic because there wasn't hard liquor available. It's not like Italy had vinyards or anything. Wait, people actually say this? Hold on gotta go call my old grad school buddy who downed a 12 pack every night and tell him he can cut out this AA bullshit.
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Cyrano4747 posted:Wait, people actually say this? I think it may be the fault of the journalist, not the pathologist, but here's the relevant bits from the article: quote:Histological analysis of liver cells detected advanced fibrosis, although he had never touched hard liquor. So, uh, yeah. Italian noblemen couldn't have alcohol-induced liver problems because there was no hard liquor in Renaissance Italy. Vincent Van Goatse fucked around with this message at 01:46 on May 9, 2017 |
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I think it may be the fault of the journalist, not the pathologist, but here's the relevant bits from the article: BRB, going to doctor. Think I just sprained something rolling my eyes that hard.
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I mean, I get that wine isn't traditionally considered a hard liquor but seriously holy poo poo why didn't someone at the Smithsonian catch this during the editing process? I have no reason to doubt this pathologist that this Cangrande dude's death wasn't alcohol-related but that phrasing is sloppy and stupid as gently caress.
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HEY GAIL posted:also the terrible nutrition wasn't every place and time in the past but only certain ones (large cities in england during the first half of the 19th century, western europe during the early 17th century, etc). it's entirely possible that your elite bowmen had been well fed during their childhoods, allowing them to grow up into the kind of barrel chested hulks that this job required I was about to say this myself. Nutrition wasn't going to be a huge issue for a lot of English archers during the HYW (at least in terms of getting calories, not saying they were eating kale and quinoa after a day at the archery butts). A lot of those guys were from the elite of the non-aristocracy. Their parents were more likely to be skilled tradesmen or some kind of small landowners than the stereotypical commoner. A good number of professional/semi-professional English archers were coming from families who had an older son that they could afford to equip as a man-at-arms, but weren't rich enough to buy armor for the younger son or other male family members. The younger son/cousin would work as an archer for a while until he could raise the money to buy a full harness and get a contract for service as a man-at-arms. So these families weren't super rich, but they also weren't hurting to put food on the table.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I think it may be the fault of the journalist, not the pathologist, but here's the relevant bits from the article: Isn't Renaissance Italy exactly when hard liquor was invented? Specifically to remove water from wine to make it more efficient to ship?
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I was gonna say did distillation of any sort not exist at the time? I thought even the romans made fortified wine which was why they diluted it to drink it.
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The first confirmed distillation of alcoholic beverages (distillation was discovered in the 1st century, but seems to have been used only for alchemical use for centuries) took place in the 1400s. The strongest known Roman wine was Falernian, which is estimated at about 15% ABV. Watering wine was a Greek custom adopted by the Romans, and was more a way of stretching the wine supply than it was a means of diluting the alcohol content.
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Phanatic posted:Isn't Renaissance Italy exactly when hard liquor was invented? Specifically to remove water from wine to make it more efficient to ship? A quick check on Whiskey in wikipedia found a mention of "aqua vitae" in Ireland in the late 1400s - though it seemed the process of distillation went Greek -> Muslim -> West, with the Muslims and the Westerns initially decanting spirits as medicine.
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 Taken from an "Eastern Front Combat Footage" video. Don't know why they're showing spits since its all supposed to be 1941 footage. (The Russians only had Spit V's, and only in mid-43)
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how much alcohol is necessary to gently caress your liver up that much though
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Koramei posted:Wait, so is there actually truth to the whole "legs distorted from a lifetime on the saddle" thing for Mongols and Tatars and so on?
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Fusion Restaurant posted:What was the draw weight on longbows? I'm under the impression it was crazy high. So as a follow up, how did they use these regularly w presumably mediocre nutrition when their draw weight is way above what's recommended for people now? I usually see 150 lbs quoted for a war bow. Other posters have addressed the second part.
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Reading this death ray proposal is amazing. The guy is like a Kickstarter from 70 years ago: Yeah, we're gonna make a death ray, all we need to do is figure out how to power it, how to focus the beam, how to create VHF generators two orders of magnitude stronger than we have now, how to let the electrons out, and how to put it together. But otherwise I figured everything out, that will be 7 million rubles please.
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Thanks for all the super interesting answers! I really need to talk to my friends who do forensic archeology (?) more, sounds so cool!
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German soldier carrying a PPSh - I haven't seen real statistics but anecdotes say this wasn't uncommon on the East Front. I wonder how they handled ammo resupply, were there enough that is was worth it to produce and distribute PPSh ammo?
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Probably scavenging, they did produce a lot of dead soviet soldiers after all.
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HEY GAIL posted:but on the outside neither one of us looks different Have you tried dying hair, using makeup etc?
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gohuskies posted:German soldier carrying a PPSh - I haven't seen real statistics but anecdotes say this wasn't uncommon on the East Front. I wonder how they handled ammo resupply, were there enough that is was worth it to produce and distribute PPSh ammo? Is that not a Soviet soldier?
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GotLag posted:Is that not a Soviet soldier? It looks like he's planting a German 'schuhkarton' mine, so without being completely certain I would guess he's wehrmacht.
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The helmet is clearly Soviet. The mine looks like YaM-5 or some other version.
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I stand corrected! So he could be all soviet.
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