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Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

Aethernet posted:

Have they removed the Rank 3 requirement? Because that was an arse to grind for, especially via the trading cost sink route.

They haven't but I wouldn't call it a grind just tedious but that may be splitting hairs...

If you're going to do it, Packhounds are the module to do it for :krad:

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Overwined
Sep 22, 2008

Wine can of their wits the wise beguile,
Make the sage frolic, and the serious smile.

Efexeye posted:

Collection of Wonders, right? That trip is going to net me around 50 mil in ten minutes or so here :)

That's the one! It is a very cool system, but treacherous.

Trustworthy
Dec 28, 2004

with catte-like thread
upon our prey we steal
On my very last drunken jump last night, the aliens fiiiiiiiinally made contact. I am of the chosen! All hail our coming overlords! :dance:

Blind Rasputin
Nov 25, 2002

Farewell, good Hunter. May you find your worth in the waking world.

I just got back to the bubble. How do I get aliens in Maia? I'm going to get a DBX and get out there. Also want to see all these generation ships.

Is there a list or resource somewhere of how to get to all the generation ships?

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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The giant "scan" they do of you is actually them venting their septic compartments at you

Eldragon
Feb 22, 2003

Aethernet posted:

Have they removed the Rank 3 requirement? Because that was an arse to grind for, especially via the trading cost sink route.

You can at least pop over to a hostile faction system and kill their ships for 30 merits a pop. 25 kills only takes a couple hours at most, and you actually get to kill things. Unlike every other grindy as gently caress task in this game.

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

Overwined posted:

That's the one! It is a very cool system, but treacherous.

went out there from Toolfa on my first real trip out of the bubble- I didn't scan anything on the way out but I did on the way back. Went from 37 mil and an A rated ASPx to 27 mil and an A rated Python in a little under a week

Black Griffon
Mar 12, 2005

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are. You are destiny.


Speaking of lithobraking, I just smashed my dbx straight into the ground, knocked 88% off my hull and 49% off my canopy. I think it's time to go home and cash in my estimated 15 mil in exploration data. :haw:

mrmcd
Feb 22, 2003

Pictured: The only good cop (a fictional one).

Black Griffon posted:

Speaking of lithobraking, I just smashed my dbx straight into the ground, knocked 88% off my hull and 49% off my canopy. I think it's time to go home and cash in my estimated 15 mil in exploration data. :haw:

AFMs repair canopy now! (although can they repair fully destroyed ones?)

No help on the hull though.

Black Griffon
Mar 12, 2005

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are. You are destiny.


mrmcd posted:

AFMs repair canopy now! (although can they repair fully destroyed ones?)

No help on the hull though.

No help if I want to kit a dbx with SRV and shields either. Without shields i would have died outright, without SRV I can't do sick jumps.

Edit: plus cargo space for weird stuff I find.

Black Griffon fucked around with this message at 18:51 on May 8, 2017

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...

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Black Griffon posted:

No help if I want to kit a dbx with SRV and shields either. Without shields i would have died outright, without SRV I can't do sick jumps.

Edit: plus cargo space for weird stuff I find.

PSA: cargo is useless in an explorer. You can't find anything outside of the bubble that isn't inside of it. :eng101:

Use the slot for an AFMU, which should be standard equipment with neutron boosts.

LCL-Dead
Apr 22, 2014

Grimey Drawer

Efexeye posted:

i think this run im on will net me enough for a Conda but I can't decide if I should skip from my ASPX to it, or get a Python first

Eh.. Conda's are alright but if the biggest thing you've been in is an AspE I'd check out some of the other ships.

Unless you plan to strictly engineer it for more exploration or the like. It's a big ugly bitch that handles like rear end.

I have one, I'll be selling it as soon as I get back to the bubble and switching to a Cobra 3 for shits and giggles (and spikes).

One in the Bum
Apr 25, 2014

Hair Elf
I was at quince last night doing passenger missions and some missions are giving bromelite as a cargo reward. So if you hate mining but need bromelite for engineer unlocks, do the needful.

Black Griffon
Mar 12, 2005

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are. You are destiny.


Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:

PSA: cargo is useless in an explorer. You can't find anything outside of the bubble that isn't inside of it. :eng101:

Use the slot for an AFMU, which should be standard equipment with neutron boosts.

Are those aliens fragments you need for an engineer materials? In that case I'll drop the cargo rack.

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

LCL-Dead posted:

Eh.. Conda's are alright but if the biggest thing you've been in is an AspE I'd check out some of the other ships.

Unless you plan to strictly engineer it for more exploration or the like. It's a big ugly bitch that handles like rear end.

I have one, I'll be selling it as soon as I get back to the bubble and switching to a Cobra 3 for shits and giggles (and spikes).

probly gonna mine up to an Imp Cutter and then engineer that, :tipshat:

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...

Pork Pro

Black Griffon posted:

Are those aliens fragments you need for an engineer materials? In that case I'll drop the cargo rack.

Yeah, they're mats.

Black Griffon
Mar 12, 2005

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are. You are destiny.


Excellent. Goodbye cargo.

BTW, will an aspX be an actual upgrade from a dbx if I want a pure explorer? I'm coming into a lot of money, and I'm wondering if I should kit a badass vulture or retire Blinker the Diamondback.

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

Black Griffon posted:

Excellent. Goodbye cargo.

BTW, will an aspX be an actual upgrade from a dbx if I want a pure explorer? I'm coming into a lot of money, and I'm wondering if I should kit a badass vulture or retire Blinker the Diamondback.

Actual, yes.
Unequivocal, no.

The AspX gives you more options, more survivability, more self-sufficiency, but you pay for it, mainly in the one thing that explorers value the most: jump range. Not a whole lot, but it's there, and it adds up. It also reacts poorly to undersizing your thrusters to get more range, which makes some planetary approaches a bit more annoying.

How, exactly, that affects your exploration depends a whole lot on your approach to travel vs. discovery. If you are one who wants to go far and definitely be first in some remote corner, and who'll only honk the system and leave unless there's something really spectacular in there, then that cost matters more; if you're one to obsessively scan everything, then more jumps just gives you more to scan, so it's not actually a cost at all.


…and if you're coming into a lot of money, you might also be eyeing the mighty exploraconda. The argument for it in relation to the Asp are much the same, except it actually gets more range. What you pay for is that while you're flying between planets to scan them, it's toss-up whether it's you or the planets that have the worst turning circle.

Tippis fucked around with this message at 23:25 on May 8, 2017

Count Mippipopolous
Apr 10, 2008

Is there a ship that is clearly the best at being a turret-gunboat with a flight hanger? I'm trying to decide what to do with all this Quince money. I'm a bad pilot and don't care about PVP, but the idea of flying around in a carrier/battleship is p. cool.

Ferrovanadium
Mar 22, 2013

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Count Mippipopolous posted:

Is there a ship that is clearly the best at being a turret-gunboat with a flight hanger? I'm trying to decide what to do with all this Quince money. I'm a bad pilot and don't care about PVP, but the idea of flying around in a carrier/battleship is p. cool.

Anaconda and Imperial Cutter are both very solid ships for mounting loads of turrets in PvE, and both can mount fighter hangars.

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING
The anaconda is a fantastic turret boat. (so is the cutter but lol that grind)

Blind Rasputin
Nov 25, 2002

Farewell, good Hunter. May you find your worth in the waking world.

Here is a good resource for all of the Generation ship locations:

https://elitepve.com/viewtopic.php?t=7534

quote:

GERNERATION SHIP "Pleione"
Finding date: MAy 6th, 3303
System: Hez Ur 5
How to find: 8000 ls from Hez Ur 5 in direction of Teuten
What you need: Adv Disc Scanner
Specials: Voice acted logs
https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/69diqo/generation_ship_pleione_discovered/

GERNERATION SHIP "Odysseus"
Finding date: April 30th, 3303
System: Ross 859
How to find: orbiting Ross 859 B1
What you need: ?
Specials: Voice acted logs
https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/681v7u/generation_ship_odysseus_discovered/?dm_i=3F35%2CFZW8%2C35A2MQ%2C1NN05%2C1

GERNERATION SHIP "Hyperion"
Finding date: April 28th, 3303
System: Lalande 2966
How to find: Fly to planet #4, then in the direction of Yemaki, around 7k ls.
What you need: Adv Disc Scanner
Specials: Voice acted logs
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...l=1#post5448361

GERNERATION SHIP "Venusian"
Finding date: April 26th, 3303
System: Kitae
How to find: Fly some thousand ls in the direction of Zephyrus.
What you need: Nothing special
Specials: Voice acted logs.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/347497-Generation-Ship-quot-Venusian-quot?p=5437783&viewfull=1#post5437783

GENERATION SHIP close to Sol
Finding date (approx.): April 3303
System: Alaunus
How to find: Head to planet 10, from there travel in direction Hurae for 22k ls.
What you need: Adv Disc Scanner
Specials: Voice acted logs.
https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/6711vr/the_first_generation_ship_has_been_discovered/

ZURARA Rift expedition ship derelict
Finding date: April 17th 3303
System: SYREADIAE JX-F C0
How to find: Bring lots of jump range, use the Heisenberg Bridge to get past the rift.
Specials: Voice acted logs.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?p=5399091&viewfull=1#post5399091



They are huge. And the recorded logs are frightening little vignettes. Very good. I'm probably going to trek around and see all of them.

Also, this was my last find before heading back to the bubble.


There was definitely a huge neutron/black hole garden north east of Colonia. I got my fill and then sold my anaconda and transferred my A rated FSD back to the bubble. Was a good time out there but glad to be back.

Blind Rasputin fucked around with this message at 23:03 on May 8, 2017

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

Blind Rasputin posted:

Also, this was my last find before heading back to the bubble.


There was definitely a huge neutron/black hole garden north east of Colonia. I got my fill and then sold my anaconda and transferred my A rated FSD back to the bubble. Was a good time out there but glad to be back.

I've always carried too much exploration data to dare try to do that. How close do you need to get to get that kind of lensing?

Bloody Pom
Jun 5, 2011



I'm liking the DBS as baby's first explorer but the lack of internal mounts means I can't fit an AFMS, so neutron hopping is out of the question.

Hopefully it won't take too long to honk enough systems to afford a DBX.

Sixto Lezcano
Jul 11, 2007



Even if you're not super thrilled by them, I do suggest taking a look at the genships. There are a few in the bubble that you can get to real easily.

I saw my first one in a DBX while I was very sleepy and stoned and it was really cool just drifting through. You can use your ship lights to peak into agridomes and stuff, and the audio logs are pretty neat.

Genships tickle my exploration itch way better than actual exploration just because they have something going on. Nice views and carto data are fine but I want to Find something dangit!

Breetai
Nov 6, 2005

🥄Mah spoon is too big!🍌

Bloody Pom posted:

I'm liking the DBS as baby's first explorer but the lack of internal mounts means I can't fit an AFMS, so neutron hopping is out of the question.

Hopefully it won't take too long to honk enough systems to afford a DBX.

When you can, may I suggest the following?

http://beta.coriolis.edcd.io/outfit...HMA28QgIwV0A%3D

It's about as optimised for jump range as I can make it, barring better rolls for FSD range and sensor weight loss that also include significant bonuses. You can get all of the required components in Lembava, Pikum, and maybe need to visit one more star nearby, but that'll get you the 15% LiRongyi discount as well, bringing the purchase price down to a little less than $14.5M, and the rebuy to under 3/4 of a million.

Just a warning that you won't want to be landing on any 3+G planets with it: it's got a lighter power distro than usual, and as a result you can JUST get a boost at full charge, which takes a while to charge up even with 4 pips.

Breetai fucked around with this message at 23:44 on May 8, 2017

Bloody Pom
Jun 5, 2011



I like that fit, but it feels like you aren't really gaining much jump range by swapping to a class 3. With a 4A power distributor you're only losing about 1LY, and any jump range over 50 is still amazing in my book.

Bloody Pom fucked around with this message at 00:00 on May 9, 2017

mrmcd
Feb 22, 2003

Pictured: The only good cop (a fictional one).

My DBX has a 40ly range engineered, and that's without doing any "yank off everything not technically keeping me alive" optimizations and also doing dumb poo poo like 2x shield boosters and full weapon loadouts.

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING
Here, have a thing to gently caress with your head.

FdL vs. 747-400

Trustworthy
Dec 28, 2004

with catte-like thread
upon our prey we steal

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

Here, have a thing to gently caress with your head.

FdL vs. 747-400



Ugh worst ship kit yet

mrmcd
Feb 22, 2003

Pictured: The only good cop (a fictional one).

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

Here, have a thing to gently caress with your head.

FdL vs. 747-400



I feel like fuel should be more expensive in the Elite universe, but then again when any dweeb with $200 spacebucks can go scoop unlimited energy out of a star.. maybe not.

Def should be able to fit more people in there though.

Blind Rasputin
Nov 25, 2002

Farewell, good Hunter. May you find your worth in the waking world.

FDL fuel can't melt steel beams

Groggy nard
Aug 6, 2013

How does into botes?
I put seven Seeker Missile racks and a Huge Beam on my trading Anaconda.

I don't even know why, I never fly it anymore. Or do trading.

Trustworthy
Dec 28, 2004

with catte-like thread
upon our prey we steal
So, I haven't listened to this eerie, ancient derelict's audio logs yet. Gonna poke around inside some of these containers first; I mean, what's the worst that could happen? :q:

Crimson Harvest
Jul 14, 2004

I'm a GENERAL, not some opera floozy!

Trustworthy posted:

So, I haven't listened to this eerie, ancient derelict's audio logs yet. Gonna poke around inside some of these containers first; I mean, what's the worst that could happen? :q:



That cargo is way too big to scoop but I appreciate the hustle.

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

mrmcd posted:

I feel like fuel should be more expensive in the Elite universe, but then again when any dweeb with $200 spacebucks can go scoop unlimited energy out of a star.. maybe not.

Def should be able to fit more people in there though.

I'm still amazed that anyone gives a poo poo about platinum in Elite. There are planets worth of that poo poo just floating around and yet they still treat it like it's hard to get (at least from the value it's assigned at the markets). The real money should be in Angus Beef imho.

Cancelbot
Nov 22, 2006

Canceling spam since 1928

Had my first PvP in open last night after weeks of nothing. Was docked at trophy camp when I got a direct message: "Hey vulture want to try and fight my ASP?". Turned crimes off, agreed and we flew about 4km out, 10% hull would end the battle. That's when it turned to poo poo.

They had a hull tanked ASP which what could only be described as equipped with a G5 gently caress YOU, as every laser pulse sent my temperatures skyrocketing. I was in a stock vulture except for a G3 dirty drive. I should have beat him with my manoeuvring and positioning but it all went wrong when I forgot I was less than 300 metres above a planet and bounced into it with FA off. Then to finish me off; I didn't notice I had no shields and tried to boost & ram which only exacerbated my hull situation and sent me flying into a rebuy screen.

"OMG SORRY" came through the chat when I re-spawned, we are now Elite friends.

10/10 would die again.

Drake_263
Mar 31, 2010

mrmcd posted:

I feel like fuel should be more expensive in the Elite universe, but then again when any dweeb with $200 spacebucks can go scoop unlimited energy out of a star.. maybe not.

Def should be able to fit more people in there though.

Friendly reminder that refuel costs used to be tied into your ship's hull cost; WHatever the hell you fueled your FdL with, it probbaly involved crushed diamonds. You paid like 80K for a 16-ton refuel. (For reference, a Cobra with its 16-ton tank paid like, 500 credits for a refuel..)

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Well the FdL didn't exist back then so...

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Chrysophylax
Dec 28, 2006
._.

Drake_263 posted:

Friendly reminder that refuel costs used to be tied into your ship's hull cost; WHatever the hell you fueled your FdL with, it probbaly involved crushed diamonds. You paid like 80K for a 16-ton refuel. (For reference, a Cobra with its 16-ton tank paid like, 500 credits for a refuel..)

It was a straight up multiplier. The intent was to simulate a larger fuel tank than the ships actually carried.

Smells like a hack. They probably didn't want to impact the tiny, stupid-rear end jump range some of the ships had. Glad it's gone, didn't make any sense.

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