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bamhand posted:You are literally the only person to think this. I'm also the best Alarak ever. 
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chumbler posted:I've been trying to think of times you wouldn't want bunny hop and about all I've got is big shot might be better for mines, hanamura, and maaaaybe spider queen. Big mobile aoe slow and damage is just too valuable compared to faster mech cooldown, unless big shot's damage is really high. Plus if you take GG WP as her level 16 talent you only have to be near a dead hero to get an instant reset on the mech.
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May 9, 2017 02:31
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so i was thinking today how incredibly badly i want an algalon hero just totally insanely badly cosmic smash, phase punch, summon collapsing stars, ult to Ascend to the Heavens or create black holes SEE YOUR WORLD THROUGH MY EYES
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May 9, 2017 03:17
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Oh my god. When your bunny hop ult hits an enemy it makes like Mario bouncing on a goomba bloop noises
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May 9, 2017 03:21
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Oh man queuing as Leoric into QM Cho'gall is some  poo poo.
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May 9, 2017 03:23
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Btw, somewhat new to the game, does the PTR work like Overwatch and WoW where nothing you get carries over to live or do you actually get these rewards for these daily quests on your live account?
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May 9, 2017 03:28
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I have a weekly casual group that meets for a couple of hours; old college friends/WoW guild, just a way to keep in touch really. We tend to play vs AI because "lol we're bad" but the weekly thing has forced us into multiplayer. Man, when you remember that people aren't all as good as top level AI (or good in different ways), it's pretty fun. I can actually trap people with Nazeebo, you don't always know "they're getting siege right about... now", they don't instantly focus fire and can make mistakes... this is fun!
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May 9, 2017 03:29
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Macaluso posted:Btw, somewhat new to the game, does the PTR work like Overwatch and WoW where nothing you get carries over to live or do you actually get these rewards for these daily quests on your live account? The only thing that carries over is real money transactions. Spending or earning gold or shards don't carry over, nor does hero levels.
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May 9, 2017 03:31
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Macaluso posted:Btw, somewhat new to the game, does the PTR work like Overwatch and WoW where nothing you get carries over to live or do you actually get these rewards for these daily quests on your live account? It does not carry over. Only exception used to be if you bought the new hero with real money on PTR you got it on live but I don't know how that is handled now with gems.
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May 9, 2017 03:31
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chumbler posted:I've been trying to think of times you wouldn't want bunny hop and about all I've got is big shot might be better for mines, hanamura, and maaaaybe spider queen. Big mobile aoe slow and damage is just too valuable compared to faster mech cooldown, unless big shot's damage is really high. I'm on my phone so I can't check but it was 300-something damage at level ??? On a cooldown of 4 seconds. So DPS wise on its own it's not great but as a burst interwoven between her regular pistol shots it looks like pretty good poke, but otherwise I agree that bunnyhop is probably better.
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May 9, 2017 04:12
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beejay posted:It does not carry over. Only exception used to be if you bought the new hero with real money on PTR you got it on live but I don't know how that is handled now with gems. Seeing as they give you 750 gems as a PTR reward for playing 3 games I doubt it - although I guess we'll find out if I have D.VA unlocked day one.
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May 9, 2017 04:18
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So as someone who doesn't play RTS games cause they're the worst, what's the deal with Alarak? Is he a villain? Are Artanis and Tassadar good guys and oppose him? Zeratul looks kind of in between? What's their deal. Gimme the lowdown without me having to actually play Starcraft
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May 9, 2017 04:26
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Macaluso posted:So as someone who doesn't play RTS games cause they're the worst, what's the deal with Alarak? Is he a villain? Are Artanis and Tassadar good guys and oppose him? Zeratul looks kind of in between? What's their deal. Gimme the lowdown without me having to actually play Starcraft Alarak is a Sith Lord, Artanis is Obi-Wan, Tassadar is Qui-gon Jinn and Zeratul is Jolee Bindo. Alarak is hilarious because all he does is piss and moan about everything.
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May 9, 2017 04:32
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Alarak's whole deal is that he's the leader of the faction of the psychic aliens that actively worships Space Satan and are helping him destroy all life in the universe because Space Satan has told them for generations that they'll be spared and will get to use the empty universe as their playground. Then he finds out that no, Space Satan lied and he's just going to kill him and his people along with everyone else, so he joins the good guys. He never stops being a smug dick, though.
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May 9, 2017 04:35
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Thank you friends
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May 9, 2017 04:37
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It's also worth pointing out that Alarak also takes literally every opportunity to tell the good guys that he's only helping them because Space Satan lied to him and he wants revenge. Whether or not the universe gets saved is a distant second.
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May 9, 2017 04:41
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He's also voiced by John de Lancie at his most hammy.
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May 9, 2017 04:48
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Just got into this game because of the DVa quests. Really enjoying it as my first MOBA. I will not play any other MOBAs though. This is the only one. Also, they need to make Dragoon Fenix into a character. Why isn't he a character? 
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May 9, 2017 04:52
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SKULL.GIF posted:I've been annoyed by this for a while now but between a recent match with Li Li and these patch notes, I finally got frustrated enough to post about this: My favorite example of this is Tassadar's auto attack talent at level 1. When you complete the quest your range goes up by "1". One what?
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May 9, 2017 04:52
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SKULL.GIF posted:Oh man queuing as Leoric into QM Cho'gall is some But leo used to be good against chogal. Or was the fatty good at juking your ghosthand/has that changed? Or do you mean your team had leo and chogal?
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May 9, 2017 04:53
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Primetime posted:My favorite example of this is Tassadar's auto attack talent at level 1. When you complete the quest your range goes up by "1". One what? I love how they added the Armor system a while back to "simplify" things but every single last tooltip in the game that mentions Armor tells you that it reduces damage anyway, so calling it Armor just makes things more confusing for newbies.
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May 9, 2017 05:06
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Coolness Averted posted:But leo used to be good against chogal. Or was the fatty good at juking your ghosthand/has that changed? Or do you mean your team had leo and chogal? No I mean we crushed them like seashells beneath our heels. Cho'Gall couldn't get near Leoric without his health dropping like a rock, and since this was Braxis Holdout, that meant they could never really contest the two beacons. We got three straight 100-0s and won in like ten minutes.
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May 9, 2017 05:08
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Poultron posted:I love how they added the Armor system a while back to "simplify" things but every single last tooltip in the game that mentions Armor tells you that it reduces damage anyway, so calling it Armor just makes things more confusing for newbies. Eh, it's nice to have the shorthand. "Tyrael has 15 spell armor, pick him vs this comp" vs "Abilities do 15% less damage against Tyrael"
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May 9, 2017 05:11
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SKULL.GIF posted:Eh, it's nice to have the shorthand. "Tyrael has 15 spell armor, pick him vs this comp" vs "Abilities do 15% less damage against Tyrael" To me the only confusing part of that relationship is calling it "spell armor." Like yeah, I know what it means now, but you'd think they'd pick something a little less immediately confusing in a game where sometimes abilities are spells but sometimes they're shooting someone with a rifle or throwing bombs at them. "Ability Armor" and "Attack Armor," maybe.
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May 9, 2017 05:14
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teagone posted:Dragoon Fenix Specifically Dragoon Fenix mind you, not the weird Purifier robo-centaur thing based on his brain scans that shows up in LoTV. That can be a skin.
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May 9, 2017 05:28
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Bloody Pom posted:Specifically Dragoon Fenix mind you, not the weird Purifier robo-centaur thing based on his brain scans that shows up in LoTV. I haven't played any SC2 campaigns so ignorance is bliss!
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May 9, 2017 05:41
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:so i was thinking today how incredibly badly i want an algalon hero So basically Enigma from dota, but with a really cool base skin. Count me in. I want to see the Diablo II druid, and cheesy voice lines between him and Rehgar about wolfs wait no a D2 assassin would be really fun. Teleport kick, mind blast, lightning sentry. Summon shadow as ult. Talents let you pick up burst of speed or fade as active castables. WITCHCRAFT fucked around with this message at 05:54 on May 9, 2017 |
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May 9, 2017 05:49
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Diablo 2's Assassin makes too much sense as a dotalike hero to not be included at some point. I hope it's Natalya.
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May 9, 2017 06:07
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Bloody Pom posted:Specifically Dragoon Fenix mind you, not the weird Purifier robo-centaur thing based on his brain scans that shows up in LoTV. Fenix can be the next multiclass hero. Start out as Fenix the zealot and then at 10 you choose to either stay that way and continue talenting for...I dunno, assassin? Or you can "die" and be brought back as a Dragoon which turns you tanky and gives you new moves.
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May 9, 2017 06:31
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teagone posted:Just got into this game because of the DVa quests. Really enjoying it as my first MOBA. I will not play any other MOBAs though. This is the only one. Also, they need to make Dragoon Fenix into a character. Why isn't he a character? Spoilers, this is what will happen when they release Fenix. He will be a multiclass character I cannot see them releasing Zealot/Dragoon Fenix. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chH9T4HwFk4
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May 9, 2017 07:00
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Spudd posted:I cannot see them releasing Zealot/Dragoon Fenix. Further proof we live in the darkest timeline.
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Primetime posted:My favorite example of this is Tassadar's auto attack talent at level 1. When you complete the quest your range goes up by "1". One what? That one seems entirely obvious to me given the context of the buff, but if you aren't familiar with the mechanics of the game I suppose it's a lot less clear, yeah. One range unit. Standard ranged AA range is 5.5, Tass is 6.5, and if he completes that it's 7.5.
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Mind over Matter posted:That one seems entirely obvious to me given the context of the buff, but if you aren't familiar with the mechanics of the game I suppose it's a lot less clear, yeah. One range unit. Standard ranged AA range is 5.5, Tass is 6.5, and if he completes that it's 7.5. This is one of the simplified mechanics that I love about HotS. In dota there is wide variation in ranged heroes, and those increments can make a notable difference for early lane harass, last hits, and ganks. Sometimes the difference is tiny, like adding or losing .25 to .5 range HotS wise. It adds a really minor variance among heroes. Talents completely overhaul this. You can get a huge boost in range, but at the cost of other talents that give you better DPS at standard range. The whole talent system is a breath of fresh air. I love that all your QWE skills are viable from level 1 through the end of the game, and you augment them rather than just make them do more damage or heal more each time you level up. You can react to enemy team comp and pick talents to counter enemy heroes. You can even pick talents that help you turtle and make a comeback if your team is getting pushed in early game. It more than makes up for not having gold farming / item builds for versatility. Blizz loving nailed it on this mechanic.
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Spudd posted:Spoilers, this is what will happen when they release Fenix. He will be a multiclass character I cannot see them releasing Zealot/Dragoon Fenix.  What is this horseshit?!
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May 9, 2017 08:49
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teagone posted:
Starcraft 2
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SKULL.GIF posted:I feel like Wave of Light doesn't really do enough to be worth it. It's 50% more duration on his trait. Primetime posted:My favorite example of this is Tassadar's auto attack talent at level 1. When you complete the quest your range goes up by "1". One what? Press C ingame. It lists your AA range, so you can figure out what +1 to your range means. Lemon-Lime fucked around with this message at 10:26 on May 9, 2017 |
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May 9, 2017 10:20
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teagone posted:
I fail to see the problem, he looks neat.
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May 9, 2017 11:11
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Spudd posted:Spoilers, this is what will happen when they release Fenix. He will be a multiclass character I cannot see them releasing Zealot/Dragoon Fenix. Just because he can switch forms doesn't mean he has to be multiclass; in fact, it probably means the opposite, because making a hero who can swap between assassin and tank at will wouldn't make sense. The simplest and most sensible way to build him would be to make him a Warrior who swaps between a tank Praetor form (which has a charge like Diablo or D.Va, some kind of channelled AoE or damage aura like Sonya/Dehaka, and a shield that is either like Anub'arak's or more interestingly, gives him armour for the duration) and a bruiser Dragoon form which trades the survivability of the Praetor form for a damage skillshot, an AoE damage/slow, and something else on his E (maybe a buff that gives it movespeed). The third form can be one of his two ults, as a temporary powerup. On that same note, they could fix Varian trivially by reducing his Fury and Arms damage to a level more in line with his Protection damage, baking the extra HP from Taunt in baseline (with Taunt still giving you extra armour), and reclassifying him as a tank.
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May 9, 2017 11:36
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Lemon-Lime posted:Press C ingame. It lists your AA range, so you can figure out what +1 to your range means. Fair enough, didnt know there was a numeric range system. Either way it's still less intuitive than other range increase talents that tend to use % terms.
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