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forkboy84 posted:coalition & PR talk Fears of the SNP coalition were one of the factors in the campaign against Miliband, so it's hardly surprising that Corbyn ruled that out immediately. As for the Lib Dems they ruled out any Labour coalition on their end, which is hardly surprising because the two parties don't really have anything in common. I would be interested to see what the overall Labour membership's view on PR was now - most of the members I met seem to agree with you, although it seems to drop off as you get higher up - the candidate in my constituency is a socialist but doesn't want PR.
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Guavanaut posted:Well, the US Libertarians hate NAFTA and love states' rights and think that the Civil Rights Act was bad, so they're more like UKIP in that respect. Also yes to drugs and guns but no to healthcare and welfare, so they're more like UKIP in that respect too. And they run a lot of local candidates with batshit insane newsletters, so... Thanks for the breakdown
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MikeCrotch posted:Fears of the SNP coalition were one of the factors in the campaign against Miliband, so it's hardly surprising that Corbyn ruled that out immediately. As for the Lib Dems they ruled out any Labour coalition on their end, which is hardly surprising because the two parties don't really have anything in common. So don't say you're going into coalition with the SNP, don't include them in the progressive alliance/popular front, whatever. It's purely about maximising chances in individual constituencies to ensure that the Conservatives do not win. Instead, it's a very short-sighted, old fashioned campaign where Lib Dems & Greens will take vote off of Labour in Labour marginals, Labour & Greens will take votes in Lib Dem marginals, & Labour & Liberal will take votes from the SNP that will see Tories increasing their MPs north of the border. Look, I don't like the LibDems at all. But needs must. Without an overly broad electoral pact or a complete self-destruction by the Tories I just don't see how Labour win an election going on from here.
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forkboy84 posted:
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Jose posted:thinks get so incredibly poo poo the tories get voted out in a landslide like last time Yeah, but that took a long loving time and caused massive amounts of damage to the country which we've not even attempted to repair yet.
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Jose posted:thinks get so incredibly poo poo the tories get voted out in a landslide like last time 
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forkboy84 posted:Yeah, but that took a long loving time and caused massive amounts of damage to the country which we've not even attempted to repair yet. 3 years of everything being expensive courtesy of hard brexit might manage it
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TACD posted:Sooner or later, everyone's an accelerationist
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Jose posted:3 years of everything being expensive courtesy of hard brexit might manage it Lol when that will provoke no critical thoughr whatsoever and drive austerity up to new heights. The revolution will happen when milk jumps up in price due to the disappearance of EU farm subsidies.
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I'm probably late with this but still: https://twitter.com/chrisdeerin/status/861917880199282691/photo/1
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ookiimarukochan posted:I'm probably late with this but still: at least they dont look like etonians
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Sixth form leaving parties look worse than I remember.
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forkboy84 posted:I'd say that the Lib Dems are closer to the US Democrats. There's some libertarians in the Lib Dems but generally they have a lot of members who are more social liberals. Thank god but for the time being libertarianism just isn't a massive thing here. UKIP are probably the natural party for libertarians, though they have to pretend to not be to appeal to working class voters who actually like things like the NHS. But their leader Paul Nuttall is a libertarian, & so was Farage. Zephro fucked around with this message at 14:31 on May 9, 2017 |
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ookiimarukochan posted:I'm probably late with this but still: There is not a single face there that I do not have an overwhelming urge to punch
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ookiimarukochan posted:I'm probably late with this but still: We are here for the beer, anything else is secondary.
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There's some kind of Much like the Joker, this then drives them to despise mankind.
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Guavanaut posted:There's some kind of this seems a lot more complicated than inbreeding
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Jose posted:the guy who tried to scam ladbrokes on twitter is a sov cit with a series of him getting arrested lol
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Remember that story in the guardian when some home counties school was bitching and moaning because they had had their funding cut but if you actually read the article the funding was reduced so that they were on the same level as schools not in the Home Counties. They were pissed as hell that they would have to either get rid of teachers resulting in these poor mites being crammed in 20 to a classroom, or sell the brand new school coach that was being used to take children out for free day trips and adventure holidays in France. The guardian commentators and callers to the Jeramy Vine show were OUTRAGED.
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Tigey posted:There is not a single face there that I do not have an overwhelming urge to punch You can't punch the little retarded one that's just cruel 
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Zephro posted:He seems to basically be a nutter with a bunch of unpaid bills and a massive chip on his shoulder who blathers on about THE RESISTANCE and hassles random British Gas people going about their jobs? I have one question for you, you statist gently caress: AM I BEING DETAINED
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icantfindaname posted:What percent of the UK labor force is unionized or covered by a union collective bargaining agreement? OECD stat for unionization rate (~25%) is relatively high by neoliberal Anglosphere standards, what further percentage are covered by union contracts but not actually in the union? National union membership is 24.7% while coverage by collective bargaining agreements is 27.9% (which would be union members inclusive) so only a minor difference as pointed out. There's a good deal of regional variation of course (England is about 10% behind Scotland at 23% union density with Wales and NI in the 35% range) while about 50% of NI employees are effected by collective bargaining agreements due to the large size of the public sector. For the record London has the lowest rate of union membership at 18% of the workforce, with only 19% being effected by a collective agreement
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ookiimarukochan posted:I'm probably late with this but still:
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ookiimarukochan posted:I'm probably late with this but still: That fuckwit with both his suit jacket buttons done up needs to be fired into the loving sun already.
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Jeherrin posted:That fuckwit with both his suit jacket buttons done up needs to be fired into the loving sun already. Given that he appears to have not yet finished puberty I'm gonna judge him less harshly than his clearly older associates. That said, whoever taught him it was acceptable to have both his suit jacket buttons done up needs to be fired into the loving sun already.
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I googled, one of them is 19 that kid and another one is 20. I found two buttons Facebook before my iPad died and he has quite the neckbeard in some of the photos. The questions why and how still remained unanswered.
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So Corbyn was asked half a dozen times by Laura Kuenssberg whether Brexit would still happen if Labour won and he dodged the question every time. I get the impression Labour are trying to be clever by being all things to all people on Brexit and creating what they imagine is useful ambiguity so that both Remainers and Leavers will feel they can vote for them. But it isn't working - they just look like idiots and/or crypto-Leavers who don't have the courage to say so out loud.
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Jeherrin posted:That fuckwit with both his suit jacket buttons done up needs to be fired into the loving sun already. Strom Cuzewon posted:That said, whoever taught him it was acceptable to have both his suit jacket buttons done up needs to be fired into the loving sun already. Yeah, that's definitely what's most wrong with that photo. ffs
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Also this: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/video/2017/may/09/cuts-anger-frustration-and-labour-still-cant-break-through-video The whole thing is interesting, (and depressing, especially the closed childrens' centres) but the Tory councillor running on an anti-cuts message is the weirdest, even if he just burbles on about waste and efficiency savings and so on. edit: also the bit where Harris talks to someone who says "well, Labour say they'll reverse the cuts, but they won't win, so I'm going to vote Tory". And Harris says "so wait you're saying you want the cuts reversed, but you don't think Labour will win, so you'll vote for a party that's promised even more spending cuts?" and the guy just goes "Yup, that's it." 
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Zephro posted:Also this: Britain is an entire country with a barely hidden shame complex who just want to be flagellated by a dominatrix-esque mother figure for all their past transgressions, real or perceived
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forkboy84 posted:So don't say you're going into coalition with the SNP, don't include them in the progressive alliance/popular front, whatever. It's purely about maximising chances in individual constituencies to ensure that the Conservatives do not win. Instead, it's a very short-sighted, old fashioned campaign where Lib Dems & Greens will take vote off of Labour in Labour marginals, Labour & Greens will take votes in Lib Dem marginals, & Labour & Liberal will take votes from the SNP that will see Tories increasing their MPs north of the border. Blame the SNP. Much like the Labour right they swung hard and missed. In the SNP's case, it was burning all bridges because they were going to get independence. Then independence didn't happen. And now the SNP is poison to everyone outside of Scotland. The message of UK politics is "Make sure you get it right the first time". Get rid of Corbyn via self sabotage - Failed to remove Corbyn, did sabatage party Go into coalition with Tories in order to secure AV vote and stop university fees - Failed both, ensured Tory rule Stoke nationalist fires to ensure independence - Did not get independence, Labour dead, Tories resurgent Regarde Aduck fucked around with this message at 16:33 on May 9, 2017 |
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Have some drive-by post:The Indpendent posted:Theresa May announces she wants to bring back fox hunting
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https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/09/colin-johnson-wollygogg-twitter-hoax-marine-le-pen-bet?CMP=twt_gu Turns out the 13 yr old bet thing was a big hoax
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Pinch Me Im Meming posted:Have some drive-by post: I'd rather be able to hunt Tories.
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Regarde Aduck posted:Blame the SNP. Much like the Labour right they swung hard and missed. In the SNP's case, it was burning all bridges because they were going to get independence. Then independence didn't happen. And now the SNP is poison to everyone outside of Scotland. The message of UK politics is "Make sure you get it right the first time". Ahhhh, I was wondering where this version of Regarde Aduck had gone. Blame the nats for everything. In the post-Brexit misery you'd cooled on that & turned to just hating everyone, but this is a warm, familiar return to ScotPol from days of yore. But my friend, British nationalism had been on the rise before the indyref. But no, I blame Jeremy Corbyn for this. Not him exclusively, his team. It's ultimately them (& maybe the NEC, I dunno) who've decided that it's better to lose & give the Tories a massive majority than go for a popular front style deal. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 16:44 on May 9, 2017 |
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