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Gustav posted:But that's a terrible metric of the mechanic. You don't bribe "guys", you bribe camps. No one goes to a bruiser camp with 2 bribe stacks to cap 2 guys. On old maps you need 4 before you can go, on Hanamura you need 1, that's how it is. What about the diablo maps where there are 3 guys
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Blizz please make Pixie Dust give Armor for the duration and not block charges because block charges are pretty worthless in this brave new era of heroes having ten auto attack ticks per second.
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May 9, 2017 16:44
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Gustav posted:But that's a terrible metric of the mechanic. You don't bribe "guys", you bribe camps. No one goes to a bruiser camp with 2 bribe stacks to cap 2 guys. On old maps you need 4 before you can go, on Hanamura you need 1, that's how it is.  It actually is perfectly consistent. You expend one charge of Bribe per unit. That's how it works with the generic bruiser knights/siege ogres, the Diablo spear throwers and dog summoners, the Starcraft firebats, and the Hanamura omnics.
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blastron posted:Blizz please make Pixie Dust give Armor for the duration and not block charges because block charges are pretty worthless in this brave new era of heroes having ten auto attack ticks per second. Change all block talents to giving you phys armour for X seconds every Y seconds, like Spell Shield.
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Lemon-Lime posted:Change all block talents to giving you phys armour for X seconds every Y seconds, like Spell Shield. Spell Shield is great! Spell Block is one of the worst mechanics in the game and I have no idea why they have it in next to actually good mitigation things like Spell Shield. Spell Shield will protect you from taking spell damage, full stop. Spell Block will either save you from Pyroblast or do next to nothing to stop Disintegrate.
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we see lili, arthas, genji on the enemy team our last pick is... zagara on a small map
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blastron posted:Spell Shield is great! Spell Block is one of the worst mechanics in the game and I have no idea why they have it in next to actually good mitigation things like Spell Shield. Spell Shield will protect you from taking spell damage, full stop. Spell Block will either save you from Pyroblast or do next to nothing to stop Disintegrate. What hero has Spell Block?
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May 9, 2017 17:04
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Lemon-Lime posted:It's 50% more duration on his trait. Yes, thank you for telling me what the talent does. Most relevant damage is going to come in short bursts. An extra second of Devotion gives you more leeway in anticipating damage I guess. If you really need to keep someone up through a wave of damage then you get four seconds baseline between Q and W, and potentially 2 more seconds with Benediction at 16. Holy Radiance is titchy to hit people with and Holy Light is single target. The real value in that increased duration is when you can blast your entire team with Holy Radiance, but because Uther wants to be near the front line, it's going to be awkward nailing everyone and you'll usually only tag yourself, the tank, and with it. I think having essentially infinite mana and much more frequent Hammers is more valuable. You can usually get 3-4 swings off between casts of Hammers of Justice, which is nearly twice as frequent as baseline. Combined with Well Met! that's some pretty potent lockdown. There are some cases where I'd go Wave of Light, such as against an Anub'arak or ETC (or another potent initiator) and combining it with Guardian of Ancient Kings and then Divine Protection later at 20. IcePhoenix posted:Were we in the same stack? Had that happen in one of my games last night and it was hilarious. Exploding bone armor talent against chogall is also fun since it does damage based on max health. Yes I was, and that Towers of Doom game was especially good because of the big turnaround we had.
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SKULL.GIF posted:What hero has Spell Block? It's on talents. Brightwing can grant it with Pixie Dust at level 13, Ragnaros and Li-Ming both have talents that give them charges when they land skillshots, and I think there's a couple more that I'm not remembering.
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blastron posted:It's on talents. Brightwing can grant it with Pixie Dust at level 13, Ragnaros and Li-Ming both have talents that give them charges when they land skillshots, and I think there's a couple more that I'm not remembering. Samuro has it on his level 4 talent Mirage. I agree with you, as well. Either amazing when it blocks a bulky attack or useless when it blocks one tick of a DoT.
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blastron posted:It's on talents. Brightwing can grant it with Pixie Dust at level 13, Ragnaros and Li-Ming both have talents that give them charges when they land skillshots, and I think there's a couple more that I'm not remembering. Shield Dust (13): Pixie Dust grants Spell Armor for 4 seconds, reducing spell damage taken by 40%. Anub'arak and Stitches get Spell Armor that triggers against the first ability used against it, but it has a duration (1.5 seconds). I agree that the Ragnaros/Li-Ming/Samuro block charges aren't great, but at least Li-Ming gets four.
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Kashuno posted:1 guy costs 1 bribe is what I mean when I talk about mechanics Put a parrot on his shoulder. Parrot is invulnerable to damage and can only be bribed, but flies away if you kill his buddy with normal damage  Also is new Alarak a beast? He has an infinitely stacking Gathering Power at 13, a 2.5 sec Battle Momentum vs CCed enemies at 16 (you have two slows at lvl 1 and 7 and of course your silence), and a 30 second flash at level 20. I mean one death and you're back to pre-rework Alarak, who wasn't great but also not dumpster.
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I'm new to the game and Brightwing is my bff. Is there a BW announcer va?
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Yes and you can browse them by looking at your collection page or just going to a character and setting their announcer to Brightwing once you buy him.
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Sweet. Yeah I am out of town for the week so I haven't been able to look. I've been trying to understand the thread but it's been tough. I have also been having problems recognizing different characters. Is there a way to get the hero name under the name plate? Or does it just come with time
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SKULL.GIF posted:Shield Dust (13): Pixie Dust grants Spell Armor for 4 seconds, reducing spell damage taken by 40%. Ah my bad, there was a change to make it only work against one effect back when Armor was rolled out but I guess they reverted it.
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Rufio posted:Sweet. Yeah I am out of town for the week so I haven't been able to look. I've been trying to understand the thread but it's been tough. You'll learn it just by playing more games. Are you familiar with any of Blizzard's other franchises? Or is it just a few guys you don't recognize?
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Gustav posted:But that's a terrible metric of the mechanic. You don't bribe "guys", you bribe camps. No one goes to a bruiser camp with 2 bribe stacks to cap 2 guys. On old maps you need 4 before you can go, on Hanamura you need 1, that's how it is. They could just add dudes to the camps, then it wouldn't be confusing from a consistency standpoint.
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I didn't think the camps on Hanamura were even marked "bruiser" or "siege" or anything. I'm not 100% sure what the issue is.
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I'm pretty sure it's marked support camp but I can't check atm to be safe. The argument is stupid
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bamhand posted:You'll learn it just by playing more games. Are you familiar with any of Blizzard's other franchises? Or is it just a few guys you don't recognize? The OW and Diablo characters I'm familiar with, it's just the SC and WoW dudes that I don't have a clue who they are. Also the different skins can kinda throw me off but I guess I'll just get a hang of it over time. At least this isn't one of the other MOBAs with 100s of heroes or whatever I guess
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SKULL.GIF posted:Yes I was, and that Towers of Doom game was especially good because of the big turnaround we had. Yeah, that game was super good. Crazy what happens when a team actually starts working together I'm a little sad that I have to decide between "having Xul" and "having gold" now, though.
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Crazy thought here but maybe they want bribe to be better on certain maps just like how globals are better on certain maps, zone control is better on certain maps, siege damage, etc
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Rufio posted:Sweet. Yeah I am out of town for the week so I haven't been able to look. I've been trying to understand the thread but it's been tough. It costs 1600 shards though so be prepared to shell out
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PYF most wanted skin ideas: Sgt. Hammer, but it's Torbjorn riding his turret.
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Still want Sgt. Hammer skin that is just her walking around the battlefield with a Bazooka. Siege is she sets it on the ground like a mortar launcher. W is she swings the Bazooka, Z is she jumps on it and rockets away.
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Bogart posted:PYF most wanted skin ideas: Bowling chogall
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Anyone excited to see a level 20 Genji dash in and 1-shot an enemy team on a boss cap point by deflecting D.Va's self destruct? I mean in 3 months when D.Va isn't instant ban. e: I was literally watching this video, 2 minutes away from seeing this clip when I posted the above. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LFwN60jPhI&t=1344s Rufio posted:The OW and Diablo characters I'm familiar with, it's just the SC and WoW dudes that I don't have a clue who they are. Also the different skins can kinda throw me off but I guess I'll just get a hang of it over time. At least this isn't one of the other MOBAs with 100s of heroes or whatever I guess If you're in game, you can hit tab to see the names. BrianBoitano fucked around with this message at 19:04 on May 9, 2017 |
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blastron posted:Ah my bad, there was a change to make it only work against one effect back when Armor was rolled out but I guess they reverted it. The nerf never actually happened. It was just a tooltip error.
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Speaking of Genji deflect, he can almost solo the Braxis boss with Deflect and Perfect Defense/Shingan/Reflect.
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Bogart posted:PYF most wanted skin ideas: Grommash Hellscream (Warcraft 2 version) replacement for ETC Belial for Ragnaros signalnoise fucked around with this message at 19:16 on May 9, 2017 |
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BrianBoitano posted:Anyone excited to see a level 20 Genji dash in and 1-shot an enemy team on a boss cap point by deflecting D.Va's self destruct? This isn't at all how Genji's deflect works. He is protected from damage and flings a kunai for each damage instance deflected. This is why deflecting fast attacks such as tychus, tracer, tassadar, liming do so much damage. It would do almost nothing deflecting a D.Va ult.
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karrethuun posted:This isn't at all how Genji's deflect works. He is protected from damage and flings a kunai for each damage instance deflected. This is why deflecting fast attacks such as tychus, tracer, tassadar, liming do so much damage. It would do almost nothing deflecting a D.Va ult. You can have it add 33% of the reflected attack's damage but i have no idea what that would work out to be.
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Bogart posted:PYF most wanted skin ideas: War Boy murky His slime is silver chrome, his fish is a tire, his egg is a V8, and he's all leather strappy post-apocalyptic Pub Lad Zul'jin He has a newsboy cap, he throws darts instead of axes, and he drinks a pint when he regens. Also his accent is an ungodly mix of Troll and Cockney Faust Genji He's just Faust from Guilty Gear edit: Bowling Li Ming holding a bowling trophy and a ball, her beam and darts shoot pins, pin clatter when the orb hits s y n t h w a v e etc DAD LOST MY IPOD fucked around with this message at 19:41 on May 9, 2017 |
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I'll only accept Grom That is, a scream from and/or like hell.
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Bogart posted:PYF most wanted skin ideas: Pajama Rexxar with teddy Misha.
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Airspace posted:I'll only accept Grom I'll only accept Grom if it's not Grom but Garrosh cause Garrosh rules and Grom drools
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Dietrich posted:You can have it add 33% of the reflected attack's damage but i have no idea what that would work out to be. Yeah when you get this talent you can really poo poo on unsuspecting people on Shrines by walking through the Arcane Golem's lasers.
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Janitor Leoric Skellington Xul
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