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Ewing was really dominant but I feel like he always got clowned on by Robinson, Olajuwon, and Shaq. In a lot of ways now that his career is deeper, he reminds me a lot of Dwight Howard. Both just supremely powerful, athletic dudes who were extremely dominant but lacked that extra skill and didn't play on complete enough teams to win a title against some of the all-time great squads that were top tier in his era.
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mdemone posted:I sense that you hold Kareem as your personal GOAT. (With which I cannot disagree.) Am I right? Yes, without a doubt. He lost only two games in his four year UCLA career. One due to an eye injury and another due to some opponent not shooting the ball. The dumb NCAA banned the dunk because he was too dominant. That's not a joke. They BANNED the dunk. Also, he's the rare elite athlete that actually got a degree (BA in history) before joining the NBA. Between the NBA regular season/playoffs/ASGs and his college years he scored 46,725 points on 59.1% TS%. Nobody else is close to that. As one example, at LBJs current shooting levels he would need to score basically 52,000 points in the regular season/playoffs/ASGs to reach Kareem's level. He's currently at 34,948 points. Nobody could stop Kareem's ambidextrous hook shots. He'd probably be doing 3P hook shots now. He fought Bruce Lee in a movie. He stopped the Lakers 33 game win streak. Also, he was was a career 72% FT shooter. Unlike so many big men who are awful at the line if you sent Kareem to the line you were going to pay the price. NickRoweFillea posted:This may sound like a dumb request but I don't really care. Can someone tell me how good Patrick Ewing actually was? Like with numbers and examples. Thanks! Good enough to win the title in 1994. Underrated scorer. Only finished in the top ten of WS/48 twice in his career and that makes him seem slightly overrated with how much talk he got in the early 1990s playing in NYC.
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There were giants on the earth in those days. it was the age of the centers. Ewings rep suffers from being compared to some of the greatest players of all time like Robinson, Hakeem, and Shaq, but he was just below those guys which means he was really loving good. He wasn't a great offensive player, but he was a dominant defender.
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NickRoweFillea posted:This may sound like a dumb request but I don't really care. Can someone tell me how good Patrick Ewing actually was? Like with numbers and examples. Thanks! hot take - he was really good under the rules back then, but he would be pretty ineffective in today's NBA.
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May 10, 2017 00:28
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No because he would crush undersized 5s and stretch 4s in the block and on the boards
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predicto posted:hot take - he was really good under the rules back then, but he would be pretty ineffective in today's NBA. He was a career 66% 3pt shooter, he'd be fine edit: in the two seasons they tracker shot locations. My sample size joke became a "didn't read the stat" joke.
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May 10, 2017 00:33
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euphronius posted:No because he would crush undersized 5s and stretch 4s in the block and on the boards Yup. He didn't quite have Duncan range, but he could hit a midrange shot and had a great fadeaway+running hook shot. Great defender who led some great defensive teams in the pros and college. He, Mourning, Mutombo, and Iverson are on the Rushmore of the John Thompson era at Georgetown. Was about to sign with UNC until he saw a Klan rally while visiting. His rep probably suffers from :0 rings:, but, echoing other posters, he's probably just a little bit below Shaq/Olajuwon/Robinson.
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Libertine posted:Ewing was really dominant but I feel like he always got clowned on by Robinson, Olajuwon, and Shaq. In a lot of ways now that his career is deeper, he reminds me a lot of Dwight Howard. Both just supremely powerful, athletic dudes who were extremely dominant but lacked that extra skill and didn't play on complete enough teams to win a title against some of the all-time great squads that were top tier in his era. euphronius posted:No because he would crush undersized 5s and stretch 4s in the block and on the boards
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In today's game Ewing would be Tyson Chandler but able to take a larger offensive load (and have a little bit more range). That is a pretty drat good player.
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My recollection of Ewing was that he'd get you the 25/12 a night but didn't often take over a game and carry a team the way Shaq or Hakeem could. Oakley/Mason/Ewing was a pretty badass frontcourt though.
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May 10, 2017 01:07
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He made the finals and that's pretty loving great.
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Ewing held his team back why else would they play better when he didn't play
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Away all Goats posted:https://twitter.com/JLew1050/status/861963075884384257 Will be interesting to see what the Raptors do. Even they make every correct off season move, and pull of a few swindle trades, they still wont have a chance in hell at beating the cavs unless LBJ gets hurt. Gotta be frustrating to make a very good 50 win team for a few years in a row but have no chance because LeBron. There is no free agents available to sign that will improve your team enough to beat LeBron. And staying put and going with the guys we already have been playing with Lowry/Patterson/Tucker/Ibaka coming off the books will put you way over the cap. I still think even if we somehow PG13 for scraps this playoffs and had a lineup of healthy lowry/derozan/tucker or powell/ibaka/JV , we still would have lost the series 9/10 times, and likely swept or gentlemans swept.
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May 10, 2017 01:22
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Dunced on did 40 min or so on the raptors yesterday and it's very good. I'd blow it up, but a very expensive run of 50 wins a year is possible . It is sort of not their choice since ibaka and Lowry are true free agents.
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I think that the James Harden gently caress Defense Memorial Point Guard Tour has made him so much more watchable to me
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NickRoweFillea posted:I think that the James Harden gently caress Defense Memorial Point Guard Tour has made him so much more watchable to me he is definitely much more dynamic and watchable this year although part of that, i think, is just dwight being gone and them adding some good three point shooters for him to pass to. he has been a good passer going back to OKC
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chunkles posted:he is definitely much more dynamic and watchable this year although part of that, i think, is just dwight being gone and them adding some good three point shooters for him to pass to. he has been a good passer going back to OKC Seeing him facilitate and conduct that offense is soooo much better than watching him drive into a Dwight-filled slough and flop to get free throws
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NickRoweFillea posted:Seeing him facilitate and conduct that offense is soooo much better than watching him drive into a Dwight-filled slough and flop to get free throws all of his flopping is done when a defender looks at him while attempting to go through a moving screen
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patonthebach posted:Will be interesting to see what the Raptors do. Even they make every correct off season move, and pull of a few swindle trades, they still wont have a chance in hell at beating the cavs unless LBJ gets hurt. Gotta be frustrating to make a very good 50 win team for a few years in a row but have no chance because LeBron. There is no free agents available to sign that will improve your team enough to beat LeBron. And staying put and going with the guys we already have been playing with Lowry/Patterson/Tucker/Ibaka coming off the books will put you way over the cap. this raptors team has been dogshit in the playoffs vs non lebron teams. the raptors have no chance cause their two best players are unplayable garbage in the playoffs every single year and their coach seems mediocre. i think trying to place it all on the fact that lebron is great sort of misses the point, that even if he wasn't there this raptors team would just be swept by some other team
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Yeah, the raptors will probably get swept by the bucks instead so that the bucks can get clowned on by lbj instead
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Ewing was great with his back to the basket and could shoot mid-range so Dwight/Tyson Chandler comparisons are mistaken https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aqW0qioM5A
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May 10, 2017 01:55
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News: James Harden is a loser bitch
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Maybe if James didn't selfishly stat chase the rockets would have won the game
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if manu ginobli was on the raptors instead of demar derozan they would have taken the cavs to 7 imo
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kawhi not https://twitter.com/World_Wide_Wob/status/862138233571954688
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Manu blocked that like he was playing one of his kids in the backyard.
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May 10, 2017 04:04
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the more they beat the Rockets the more Spurs go down. I don't have video proof Pat Bev is responsible but this is like stomping a porcupine
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zelah posted:Vince Carter, ghostface? With his longevity VC is clearly E-40.
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James Harden had one of the worst overtimes you'll ever see from a star player
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Jota posted:James Harden had one of the worst overtimes you'll ever see from a star player that's only because the Raps couldnt even get to OT. But yea, he was having a tough time. They just stopped running their offense and he was just holding the ball way too long
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May 10, 2017 04:11
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Help I only watch the playoffs is it normal for games to go like 3 minutes without anyone scoring or was that as much of a ridiculous comedy of errors as it looked?
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BWV posted:that's only because the Raps couldnt even get to OT. Seeing Lowry succeed in the playoffs with the Spurs is going to be a bittersweet pill for a lot of Toronto fans.
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Ogmius815 posted:Help I only watch the playoffs is it normal for games to go like 3 minutes without anyone scoring or was that as much of a ridiculous comedy of errors as it looked? eh, it happens
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Ogmius815 posted:Help I only watch the playoffs is it normal for games to go like 3 minutes without anyone scoring or was that as much of a ridiculous comedy of errors as it looked? Scoring droughts aren't abnormal but the first few minutes of OT was some definite A-tier comedy basketball especially if you like watching James Harden gently caress up
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