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Cojawfee posted:I thought they weren't going to let people get permits for stupid things like "gayest polish person to die on Everest with a Scooby Doo butt plug" anymore. F-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-fascist!
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# ? May 7, 2017 15:04 |
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# ? May 15, 2024 04:08 |
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If anyone has virtual reality cardboard for their smartphone (or the super expensive VR headsets), I highly recommend watching Capturing Everest on the Sports Illustrated website. I've only watched the first episode and it blew me away. There's some incredible scenes of Kathmandu and the trek through the Khumbu Valley (including some hair raising suspension bridge crossings). Can't wait to see the actual mountain scenes. I love the future.
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# ? May 7, 2017 16:05 |
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Rotten Red Rod posted:It's an addiction - no hyperbole, a literal addiction. They are addicted to the adrenaline of doing something so dangerous, and they have to one-up themselves each time or they don't get the high. And of course Everest is the "ultimate" for them. Watch that one video of the guy who wanted to wingsuit off of Everest - the dude is just listing off all his friends who have died wingsuiting, worrying about his wife and kids... And then decides to go do it anyway, because he's compelled to. His brain won't let him go. They should read about K2 then. In all seriousness though, I have no problem conceptually with those who want to push the envelope of human experience and risk their lives doing things incredibly dangerous. Without people like this, there would be no astronauts, and in some sense I am tempted to say that part of our nature as a species is the statement George Mallory made about Everest: he wanted to climb it because it was there. People wanted to go to the moon because it was there too, and I consider that one of the greatest achievement of human beings. That said I feel like most of the deaths on Everest are the result of unprepared people with too much money--not in this case clearly--deciding the mountain is a bucket list check mark they need. That's not cool, that's stupid and also emblematic of how some people seem to have no regard not just for their own lives, but for their spouses and loving children that have to deal with the aftermath of their loved ones being utterly dumb.
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# ? May 7, 2017 22:49 |
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Valley Uprising is supposedly about climbers and I guess in favor of them but they seem like assholes
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# ? May 9, 2017 03:52 |
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ZombieLenin posted:They should read about K2 then. We went to the moon for a very good reason: sticking it to the Ruskies
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# ? May 9, 2017 08:12 |
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Some South African has just been found hiding in a cave, trying to avoid paying the summit fee. Now he has been fined double. https://rusreality.com/2017/05/09/climber-a-stowaway-is-hiding-in-a-cave-on-mount-everest/
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# ? May 9, 2017 08:44 |
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Rondette posted:Some South African has just been found hiding in a cave, trying to avoid paying the summit fee. Now he has been fined double. Can we take up a collection to pay his fines and buy the permit as long as he live streams the attempt?
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# ? May 9, 2017 19:47 |
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/09/sports/polish-climbers-to-scale-deadly-k2-peak-in-winter.html Surely this will go well
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# ? May 9, 2017 21:28 |
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Grumio posted:https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/09/sports/polish-climbers-to-scale-deadly-k2-peak-in-winter.html polish guys do not give a poo poo about being alive
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# ? May 9, 2017 21:33 |
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Grumio posted:https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/09/sports/polish-climbers-to-scale-deadly-k2-peak-in-winter.html Their only equipment, a bottle of vodka.
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# ? May 9, 2017 23:06 |
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Their only equipment, a bottle of vodka. Supplemental vodka at various camps
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# ? May 9, 2017 23:13 |
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I'm pretty sure K2 is the only eight-thousander that hasn't yet been summited during the winter... good luck suicidal Polish broskas.
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# ? May 10, 2017 00:53 |
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Grumio posted:https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/09/sports/polish-climbers-to-scale-deadly-k2-peak-in-winter.html This is a fantastic story, I'm really impressed. Great coverage of the winter challenges, the history of Polish winter mountaineering, good photos, really strong package put together on a subject that really doesn't get much good press attention. Glad NYT did this story. It's awesome.
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# ? May 10, 2017 03:14 |
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Good luck Polish Bros. Hoping for another suicidal success like the Polish line.
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# ? May 10, 2017 03:21 |
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I thought Annapurna was the deadliest mountain?
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# ? May 10, 2017 05:38 |
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CommunistPancake posted:I thought Annapurna was the deadliest mountain? Annapurna is deadly because it avalanches like crazy, which adds to the risk but not really to the technical difficulty. The standard routes on K2 have more difficult climbing than the standard routes on Annapurna, and K2 goes to a higher elevation. K2 also has worse weather, which is a much bigger deal in winter.
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# ? May 10, 2017 05:42 |
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K2 is also the only mountain to gave a board game dedicated to it's bastardliness
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# ? May 10, 2017 06:59 |
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Climbing Annapurna is like climbing any other high mountain except you also have to play Russian Roulette on the way up.
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# ? May 10, 2017 07:44 |
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K2 has the ice serac bottleneck that makes it savage. Crossing a football field at a 60 degree sideways angle while huge hunks of ice regularly fall from above you.
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# ? May 10, 2017 08:00 |
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This discussion got me googling some things and I just learned that there are a number of tall (7000m+) peaks in the Karakoram Range which have never been summited, such as Gasherbrum VI, and at least some of these other Karakoram mountains have even more technically difficult rock climbing than K2. If they attracted as many attempts as K2, they probably wouldn't be as deadly, however. What makes K2 "The Savage Mountain" is combining risk factors: difficult/steep climbing, 8600m, exceptionally awful and rapidly changing weather, and sheer remoteness from civilization. On that last point, the name "K2" is its original name, as far as anyone knows. The locals didn't know it existed before the British surveyed the Karakorams and gave them designations of K1, K2, K3, etc. Since it's so far from anything, if you get in serious trouble, you are probably going to die without anyone mounting a rescue attempt. The Pakistani military is the closest thing to a rescue service, but they don't have the type of helicopters needed to attempt high altitude rescue, and weather frequently prevents them from even being able to fly to the K2 base camp.
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# ? May 10, 2017 08:38 |
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K2 would be more fitting as the world’s highest peak, but the upside is that Everest keeps most of the dead Canadians and vegans from defiling K2.
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# ? May 10, 2017 08:54 |
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Yeah the K2 serac is a thing of terror for sure: Having to spend a couple of hours under that thing traversing a near-vertical ice wall all the while being over 8000 metres is just insane. Ed Viesturs book 'K2: Life and Death on the World's Most Dangerous Mountain' is a really good account of the history of the mountain and the most memorable attempts to climb it, I definitely recommend reading it. It also includes the story of the 2008 disaster as shown in the documentary 'The Summit' which is equally as amazing.
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# ? May 10, 2017 08:54 |
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Grumio posted:https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/09/sports/polish-climbers-to-scale-deadly-k2-peak-in-winter.html Thank for the link, good article.
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# ? May 10, 2017 09:59 |
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BobHoward posted:exceptionally awful and rapidly changing weather Alpinist posted:A few months later on August 13, Hargreaves reached the summit of K2, but she was blown off the mountain with five other climbers on the descent by winds exceeding 260 miles per hour.
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# ? May 10, 2017 12:43 |
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Christ that's a helluva thing. I assume getting trapped in that is kind of a death sentence, even assuming you can find a cave or something to hole up in.
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# ? May 10, 2017 12:48 |
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Should have worn a wingsuit
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# ? May 10, 2017 13:19 |
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I wonder what the wind chill is like. Of course, the air is so thin up there that it only pushes with the pressure of like, 150 mph winds at sea level.
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# ? May 10, 2017 13:23 |
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Maluco Marinero posted:Christ that's a helluva thing. I assume getting trapped in that is kind of a death sentence, even assuming you can find a cave or something to hole up in. Platystemon posted:I wonder what the wind chill is like. That's the difference between an F3 and F5 tornado. Either one's going to ruin your day if it hits you.
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# ? May 10, 2017 14:09 |
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"[img posted:https://fi.somethingawful.com/safs/titles/a7/52/00141420.0001.gif[/img]" post="472189497"] Trillian posted:Edmund Hillary's son was on the same K2 expedition and turned back. He wrote this: Peter Hillary posted:Seven people died on K2. treasured8elief fucked around with this message at 14:44 on May 10, 2017 |
# ? May 10, 2017 14:38 |
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Pfft. At least it's a large freezer. Crybabies.
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# ? May 10, 2017 18:39 |
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On the bright side, there isn't a single man-eating animal on K2.
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# ? May 11, 2017 02:21 |
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FrozenVent posted:On the bright side, there isn't a single man-eating animal on K2. K2 is the single man-eating animal.
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# ? May 11, 2017 02:34 |
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Heh. Wikipedia has this awesome quote about K2:quote:The surveyor's mark, K2, therefore continues to be the name by which the mountain is commonly known. It is now also used in the Balti language, rendered as Kechu or Ketu[13][16] (Urdu: کے ٹو). The Italian climber Fosco Maraini argued in his account of the ascent of Gasherbrum IV that while the name of K2 owes its origin to chance, its clipped, impersonal nature is highly appropriate for so remote and challenging a mountain. He concluded that it was:
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# ? May 11, 2017 02:48 |
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Enjoy...wedding on Everest: http://www.boredpanda.com/everest-camp-wedding-photos-charleton-churchill/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=awkwardfamily
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# ? May 11, 2017 05:48 |
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Man tries to climb snowy Arizona mountain for free pizza — but suffers hypothermia, has to be rescued http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/world/tries+climb+snowy+arizona+mountain+free+pizza+suffers+hypothermia/13364963/story.html quote:A man had to be treated for hypothermia this week and rescued from a snowy northern Arizona mountain that he hiked up wearing only shorts and other light clothing in a quest for free pizza, authorities said.
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# ? May 12, 2017 19:54 |
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It would have been safer to just go find some goddamn dumpster pizza.
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# ? May 13, 2017 03:09 |
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Or just wear some pants and a coat
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# ? May 13, 2017 03:20 |
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I can't remember if this has been answered, but I'm curious how the EverestNoFilter guys are able to use their phones in such cold weather. Do they have crazy cold proof satellite phones, great cases, or is it just luck that theirs work in suboptimal weather and my iPhone will die when it's -16F?
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# ? May 13, 2017 14:53 |
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As far as I know they have just regular iPhones, but their other gear is probably designed specifically for all weather expeditions. They actually posted a few days ago about their complete setup, but I didn't make note of any of it and can't remember anymore.
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# ? May 13, 2017 19:23 |
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girlwithgloves posted:Enjoy...wedding on Everest: This is dumb as hell, but the only thing dumber are the 5,000 google alerts I keep receiving for this story with headlines like "Couple Marries Atop Mt. Everest."
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