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Or they could stop making mass Effect games because they aren't very good at it anymore
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I'd like to submit MGS3 as another "prequels can be great" example Just... I dunno, not with the ME:A team.
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May 10, 2017 07:44
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Kalenn Istarion posted:[You can absolutely do a prequel movie / book / game that still has dramatic suspense. Rogue One is probably the most widely distributed example in recent history. You know that they get the plans but the story is successful by focusing on the people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfJRm0WssOE
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May 10, 2017 08:09
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I hope next time they let you choose which pathfinder to be. Been human too many times.
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May 10, 2017 09:05
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Tenzarin posted:I hope next time they let you choose which pathfinder to be. Been human too many times. Should start off as a space janitor who rises to greatness. Basically you would play as Roger Wilco from Space Quest 1. Or Regina Wilco I guess.
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May 10, 2017 09:23
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Rogue-Wan is not a good example of a good prequel lol
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May 10, 2017 09:25
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Moola posted:Rogue-Wan is not a good example of a good prequel lol But it broke new ground 
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May 10, 2017 09:30
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Is the guy teaching those kids how to fight in the third image or how to dance? I hope the latter.
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May 10, 2017 09:31
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evilmiera posted:Is the guy teaching those kids how to fight in the third image or how to dance? I hope the latter. It's an Elbow strike.
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May 10, 2017 09:39
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I know. Don't ruin the dream.
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May 10, 2017 10:16
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Kalenn Istarion posted:Take the Rachni situation. All we know is a) they lost and b) one of them survived somewhere. You could make a really interesting tale, I think, of HOW the surviving queen ended up where she was. You play as a Cerberus operative or something which allows you the moral freedom to be good or bad while still having a narrative purpose. Wasn't all the Rachni stuff before Humans came along?
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May 10, 2017 11:08
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Taear posted:Wasn't all the Rachni stuff before Humans came along? Waaaaay before the humans came along, by about 600-900 years.
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May 10, 2017 11:10
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Moola posted:Rogue-Wan is not a good example of a good prequel lol Start War: Rogue Juan was pretty good.
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May 10, 2017 12:46
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RBA Starblade posted:Start War: Rogue Juan was pretty good. It had AT-STs and AT-ATs. Darth Vader swung his light saber. It broke new ground. (it's ok to like bad things, we all play Mass Effect after all) DancingShade fucked around with this message at 13:14 on May 10, 2017 |
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May 10, 2017 13:11
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DancingShade posted:
Look, I'm only human after all
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May 10, 2017 13:40
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it's pretty weird to see, and kind of reveals RLM's SW fanboy side of things, that they basically sucked down TFA with nary a critical thought but cut down Rogue One for things like including star destroyers and atsts unlike tfa, which didn't even have the basic fact of being set immediately before a new hope.
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May 10, 2017 13:59
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I think they were willing to give TFA the benefit of the doubt but when Rogue One came out they saw the writing on the wall and realized that Disney was just going to go down the route of slavish fanservice with tortuous references to everything, no matter how irrelevant. Much like Mass Effect: Andromeda!
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May 10, 2017 14:12
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exquisite tea posted:I think they were willing to give TFA the benefit of the doubt but when Rogue One came out they saw the writing on the wall and realized that Disney was just going to go down the route of slavish fanservice with tortuous references to everything, no matter how irrelevant. Much like Mass Effect: Andromeda! i like rlm and all but it feels like if disney had've, say, invented new storm troopers and star destroyers and x-wings for R1, rlm would've been saying 'they invented new things just to sell toys'
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May 10, 2017 14:16
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Is the new patch out yet?
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May 10, 2017 14:39
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~75 minutes from now
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May 10, 2017 14:43
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Moola posted:Rogue-Wan is not a good example of a good prequel lol I'm sorry you hate fun
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May 10, 2017 14:43
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I think it's a mistake to overthink RLM's take on Star Wars stuff - they basically found an entertaining comedy angle that hit the mark and are running with it. There may or may not be various legit artistic criticism in there too. I mostly just want more Nerd Crew and Rich Evans masturbating into a Star Wars cinema paper cup while wearing a Darth Vader mask.
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May 10, 2017 14:52
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Kalenn Istarion posted:You know that they get the plans but the story is successful by focusing on the people. Yes, all those memorable people that were such great characters. Like umm... the robot. And that guy I can't remember. And I think there was another guy?
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May 10, 2017 14:53
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RLM seem like they yeah, struck gold on one particular take and are now committed to the tone of that take in perpetuity even if it isn't funny or accurate. Which is a bummer.
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May 10, 2017 14:53
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ashpanash posted:Yes, all those memorable people that were such great characters. Like umm... the robot. And that guy I can't remember. And I think there was another guy? Well I remember there was a chick who was surprisingly not Lara Croft which was my first assumption because of the accent and all the dirt.
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May 10, 2017 14:54
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Kalenn Istarion posted:I'm sorry you hate fun Maybe 10% of the movie was any fun, the rest was a complete and utter slog. The entire first half of the movie felt like ME:A's interplanetary movement boondoggle.
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May 10, 2017 14:55
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ashpanash posted:Yes, all those memorable people that were such great characters. Like umm... the robot. And that guy I can't remember. And I think there was another guy? I liked the blind not Jedi, Female Han Solo and Rebel Spy Man 
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May 10, 2017 14:56
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Android Blues posted:RLM seem like they yeah, struck gold on one particular take and are now committed to the tone of that take in perpetuity even if it isn't funny or accurate. Which is a bummer. I'm pretty sure we can still call it accurate and funny. Speaking of which if you haven't watched the new Blade Runner trailer followed by the RLM take where Rich Evans auditions for the lead role then holy poo poo, you need to see it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCcx85zbxz4 Trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZOLKwSsFik RLM
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May 10, 2017 14:58
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Kalenn Istarion posted:I liked the blind not Jedi, Female Han Solo and Rebel Spy Man Why? What did they do that made them good characters? Would you have liked them if it were Generic Action Franchise #8 and not Star Wars?
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May 10, 2017 15:00
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Kalenn Istarion posted:I liked the blind not Jedi You mean Asian Yoda? Gotta get that Chinese market somehow.
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May 10, 2017 15:02
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Sorry folks, Rogue One was a Good Movie
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May 10, 2017 15:21
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fruit on the bottom posted:Sorry folks, Rogue One was a Good Movie I beg to differ. Rogue One was a bad movie with a few fun parts AND Mass Effect Andromeda is a bad game with a few fun parts. If you try to disagree I will fire the special prosecutor.
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May 10, 2017 15:23
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I liked Rogue One because all of the characters got murked hard. It's exactly what you should expect when the B Team tries to lead a movie- everyone dies and the job is barely a success at all. I'm also a giant fan of Peter Cushing so getting to see him in a new movie in the year 2016/2017 was pretty great even if it was through not quite there yet CGI. Also the Empire traitor dude was a pretty good character, as was the robit. And both died! Huge plus.
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May 10, 2017 15:33
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fruit on the bottom posted:Sorry folks, Rogue One was a Good Movie Rogue One was the ME:A of Star Wars
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May 10, 2017 15:34
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The plot was a foregone conclusion (Spoiler: they get the plans) so they only things they could have done were a character-based story (you know, where we learn about people, understand their motivations and plight, and empathize with them as they go through their arcs) or a lame Star Wars pastiche that rides solely on nostalgia. They did the latter. Absurdly similar to what Bioware did with ME:A.
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May 10, 2017 15:40
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ashpanash posted:I beg to differ. Rogue One was a bad movie with a few fun parts AND Mass Effect Andromeda is a bad game with a few fun parts. I disagree with the first half, so please lightly reprimand the special prosecutor.
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May 10, 2017 15:46
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Zero VGS posted:Rogue One was the ME:A of Star Wars Now that I think about it that's not fair, Andromeda had less awkward facial animations.
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May 10, 2017 15:57
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ashpanash posted:The plot was a foregone conclusion (Spoiler: they get the plans) so they only things they could have done were a character-based story (you know, where we learn about people, understand their motivations and plight, and empathize with them as they go through their arcs) or a lame Star Wars pastiche that rides solely on nostalgia. I already know how ME2 ends. It's still pretty fun and engaging to go through the plot.
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May 10, 2017 16:02
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RBA Starblade posted:I already know how ME2 ends. It's still pretty fun and engaging to go through the plot. Right, because it has good characters with actual dimensionality, and those characters have clear motivations and acted accordingly. That's what makes it a good story.
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fruit on the bottom posted:Sorry folks, Rogue One was a Good Movie Ugh. R1 was bland, but I enjoyed the ending - not because I hated the characters or whatever, but becuase it was pretty bold storytelling in the star wars universe. It was like the opposite of Mass Effect 3: the game. R1 was better than TFA, however. What a fuckin joke rehash of the original. At least both movies had female main characters, which was a nice change. Nobody cares if you know how it's going to end (or you shouldn't  ), if it's told well, with solid characters. Those last two things, unfortunately, aren't Bioware-B's jam, as demonstrated, anymore.edit: is there really a patch due out today? Can someone post the patch notes, please? 
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