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Play Merfolk. The combo is that you assemble multiple lords and run your opponent over in your fishmobile. I'll even give you some sick tech. Unified Will.
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Count Bleck posted:Play Merfolk. I don't know who first started playing that in Merfolk SBs but it is probably the best thing out of the board for it (outside of Hurkyl's Recall which you need for that matchup.)
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May 11, 2017 05:35
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GoutPatrol posted:I don't know who first started playing that in Merfolk SBs but it is probably the best thing out of the board for it (outside of Hurkyl's Recall which you need for that matchup.) I've been seeing that pop up as a 2 of in the bant spirits board as well recently .......on that note Count Bleck posted:Play Merfolk. Play bant spirits because it's the most fun. Mezzanon fucked around with this message at 08:55 on May 11, 2017 |
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May 11, 2017 05:41
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Ol' dummy broke the format https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/against-the-odds-new-perspectives-combo-standard 5-0 in matches 10-0 in games
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May 11, 2017 05:43
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keratinous scutes posted:Ol' dummy broke the format that looks agonizing to play against but really fun to play
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May 11, 2017 06:13
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keratinous scutes posted:Ol' dummy broke the format Standard looks...fun?
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May 11, 2017 06:28
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My dream is that the Pro Tour comes around and there's like four new decks that people have come up with, three of them just weird rear end combos and the fourth a dedicated hate control deck that is only built to beat Mardu and two of the combos. Yeah it's probably just going to be Mardu versus anti-Mardu, but a man can dream...
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May 11, 2017 06:34
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RembrandtQEinstein posted:Standard looks...fun? A guy at my LGS tonight declined to play cube with us Friday night so he could play standard FNM.
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May 11, 2017 06:35
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RembrandtQEinstein posted:Standard looks...fun? The relatively huge card pool (compared to pre-rotation change) actually makes it seem like there are some possibilities out there. And also no cat armies helps. I actually think there might be another version of the Shadow of the Grave combo deck out there since Baral and Curious Homunculus are running around along with Collective Defiance and Fateful Showdown. Something like: Baral x 4 Homunculus x 4 Shadow of the Grave x 4 Defiance x 4 Showdown x4 Corrupted Grafstone x 4 Pieces of the Puzzle x 4 Anticipate x 4 Commit//Memory x 2-4 And then some other stuff, maybe Cathartic Reunion for consistency, or something like Thing in the Ice/Rise from the Tides/Fevered Visions/Spell copying effects. Probably only good enough for FNM, but hey, actually exciting enough (at least for me) to try to mess around with since there are some tools out there with the expanded card pool. Edit: Ooh, or even the new red split card that has the double damage/damage can't be prevented side. Actually kind of interesting! Rides Naked fucked around with this message at 07:08 on May 11, 2017 |
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May 11, 2017 07:04
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I don't know it's funnier that he played that deck because his first choice, Glorious End is bugged or that I specifically reported that bug in the beta with a very detailed bug report.
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May 11, 2017 07:13
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Angry Grimace posted:I don't know it's funnier that he played that deck because his first choice, Glorious End is bugged or that I specifically reported that bug in the beta with a very detailed bug report. ??? Why are you reporting bugs? The beta is there for testing the new cards - not testing the cards in the new build, but to test for the upcoming standard season. It seems pretty clear WotC doesn't care about bugs in the cards.
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May 11, 2017 07:16
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keratinous scutes posted:Ol' dummy broke the format I didn't watch all the games because holy god combo decks are boring as poo poo to watch, but apparently he won through Lost Legacies? Edit 2: Just saw it. He luck-sacked into a sphinx of the final word, which is a thing that happens. I guess we know what the next card banned it gonna be. Veyrall fucked around with this message at 07:36 on May 11, 2017 |
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May 11, 2017 07:25
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keratinous scutes posted:Ol' dummy broke the format My buddy was on this today. It looked cool as hell. We split the finals
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May 11, 2017 07:59
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Veyrall posted:I'm wondering if it doesn't just fold to Lost Legacy though. A lot of these Approach decks seem super-vulnerable to disruption. It's not so much the vulnerability to Approach being removed as vulnerability of losing New Perspectives to Lost Legacy or discard, which removes the ability to craft the hand so trivially and has no replacement without boarding in Drake Haven, which is a whole other level of jank. The opponent was right to take New Perspectives first, and from there he definitely luck-sacked into that win.
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May 11, 2017 09:45
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RembrandtQEinstein posted:Standard looks...fun? Give it 3 weeks and it'll correct itself
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May 11, 2017 13:50
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That New Perspectives deck has been popping up on MTGO a bunch lately, it's good at beating up slower decks but the list is extremely rigid and the deck doesn't have much play to it so there's not much ability to improve bad matchups. It makes Marvel look like an interactive deck.
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May 11, 2017 14:58
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Tales of Woe posted:That New Perspectives deck has been popping up on MTGO a bunch lately, it's good at beating up slower decks but the list is extremely rigid and the deck doesn't have much play to it so there's not much ability to improve bad matchups. It makes Marvel look like an interactive deck. But does it work exactly as it reads? In that if I have a full hand and a cycle card I can draw my entire deck?
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May 11, 2017 15:25
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Count Bleck posted:But does it work exactly as it reads? More importantly is it fair
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May 11, 2017 15:27
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Count Bleck posted:But does it work exactly as it reads? Yes, if you resolve New Perspectives and it draws you to 7+, you can immediately win the game by cycling through your whole deck, using Shefet Monitor and Vizier of Tumbling Sands to generate mana to cast Shadow of the Grave and then eventually 2x Approach of the Second Sun.
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May 11, 2017 15:31
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Tales of Woe posted:Yes, if you resolve New Perspectives and it draws you to 7+, you can immediately win the game by cycling through your whole deck, using Shefet Monitor and Vizier of Tumbling Sands to generate mana to cast Shadow of the Grave and then eventually 2x Approach of the Second Sun. The way New Perspectives is worded, you should actually get to keep the cycling card in hand.
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May 11, 2017 15:42
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Some Numbers posted:The way New Perspectives is worded, you should actually get to keep the cycling card in hand. Its not actually worded that way, but a bunch of dumb pendants can't let it go.
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May 11, 2017 15:47
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Some Numbers posted:The way New Perspectives is worded, you should actually get to keep the cycling card in hand. We've been over this like a million pages ago, the 'cycling cost' is the cost you pay in addition to discarding the card when you cycle. You still have to discard it even if the cycling cost is 0.
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May 11, 2017 15:48
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Lone Goat posted:Its not actually worded that way, but a bunch of dumb pendants can't let it go. Tales of Woe posted:We've been over this like a million pages ago, the 'cycling cost' is the cost you pay in addition to discarding the card when you cycle. You still have to discard it even if the cycling cost is 0. I'm aware of that, I was explaining what Count Bleck was talking about.
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May 11, 2017 16:24
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I re-sleeved my Breya EDH deck, and is Slobad, Goblin Tinkerer working on Karn? Also man does the art on that look too similar to Goblin Welder.
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May 11, 2017 16:39
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GoutPatrol posted:I don't know who first started playing that in Merfolk SBs but it is probably the best thing out of the board for it (outside of Hurkyl's Recall which you need for that matchup.) Unified Will is great because it should be such a known card for Merfolk but people still don't expect it. I've gotten so many "gotcha" counters out of it it's not even funny because they'll play around spell pierce and negate but walk straight into unified will.
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May 11, 2017 16:49
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Mef989 posted:Unified Will is great because it should be such a known card for Merfolk but people still don't expect it. I've gotten so many "gotcha" counters out of it it's not even funny because they'll play around spell pierce and negate but walk straight into unified will. Just like Stubborn Denial in Grixis Shadow. It just feels amazing to cast.
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May 11, 2017 19:29
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mcmagic posted:Just like Stubborn Denial in Grixis Shadow. It just feels amazing to cast. Not as amazing as stifling a fetchland.
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May 11, 2017 19:47
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Honestly if the new perspectives deck isn't just called new perspectives on scg I might have to throw a chair.
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May 11, 2017 19:50
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Count Bleck posted:Honestly if the new perspectives deck isn't just called new perspectives on scg I might have to throw a chair. "5-color Cycling"; you know its going to happen.
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May 11, 2017 20:03
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Balon posted:"5-color Cycling"; you know its going to happen. I just might vomit.
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May 11, 2017 20:06
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Count Bleck posted:I just might vomit. don't worry it'll be 4 color cycling because the deck has no red
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May 11, 2017 20:07
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Elyv posted:don't worry It runs a mountain and radiant flames out of the sideboard.
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May 11, 2017 20:51
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Lone Goat posted:Its not actually worded that way, but a bunch of dumb pendants can't let it go. If I wanted to be pedantic I'd point out that pendants are a totally different thing than pedants.
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May 11, 2017 20:53
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Angry Grimace posted:If I wanted to be pedantic I'd point out that pendants are a totally different thing than pedants. 
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May 11, 2017 21:25
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Rules question: If I have Eidolon of the Great Revel on the field and an opponent casts a 3 or under instant that prevents them from taking damage, do they still take the 2 damage since Eidolon punishes the casting of the spell and not the effect? Are there discrete stages of an instant spell or is the cast and the effect simultaneous? Neither of us knew so I let him have it but I said I'd clarify later.
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May 11, 2017 21:41
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Deified Data posted:Rules question: If I have Eidolon of the Great Revel on the field and an opponent casts a 3 or under instant that prevents them from taking damage, do they still take the 2 damage since Eidolon punishes the casting of the spell and not the effect? They cast the spell, your trigger goes on the stack. Your trigger resolves before the spell does. Even split second cards aren't immune to this I believe.
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May 11, 2017 21:43
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Sickening posted:They cast the spell, your trigger goes on the stack. Your trigger resolves before the spell does. Even split second cards aren't immune to this I believe. Yeah triggered abilities go on top of split second spells. Back when miracles was a thing you'd have to play a game sometimes keeping a 3 CMC spell on top for Krosan Grip. So you'd sometimes let a spell resolve in anticipation of needing to counter the Grip.
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May 11, 2017 21:49
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Deified Data posted:Rules question: If I have Eidolon of the Great Revel on the field and an opponent casts a 3 or under instant that prevents them from taking damage, do they still take the 2 damage since Eidolon punishes the casting of the spell and not the effect? Yeah, there's two parts to a spell: casting and resolution. After you cast, there's a round of priority, which means that the trigger goes on the stack and there's an opportunity for players to do things before it resolves.
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May 11, 2017 21:49
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Better Example. "Sudden Shock your Norin the Wary." "Trigger?"
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Count Bleck posted:Better Example. Villian: Extirpate your punishing fire. Hero: Activate Grove in response, trigger, return punishing fire, fizzle extirpate Villian: 
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