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Reminder that you can do instant runoff voting (ranking your preferences) if you want for the two with more than two options. You don't have to, but you can.
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May 11, 2017 07:24
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C,A,C
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May 11, 2017 08:15
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A, B, C. How can we claim to be civilized if we allow the death of one to lead to the death of many? Let there be no retaliation against the innocent, and let those who have committed crimes be tried for the crimes they have committed and no more. Korea's ties to Japan are unbreakable, but they are not a strangling noose. Let us respond with technology to the matter of warfare.
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May 11, 2017 09:01
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May 11, 2017 09:44
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May 11, 2017 10:42
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May 11, 2017 11:04
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Option A: Fully Reaffirm the Liberal Path The Social Democrats can still be persuaded to denounce the extremist Syndicalists and be given a place at the big boys seat. Option B: Korea Could Be Our Partner, Not Our Subject Japan is an unique country and should not be imitating the crude Western Imperialists and their dominion of Asian colonies. If we are to liberate those countries in the future we better give them an example to look after to. Option E: Mobility Focus Kaminari Sensho!
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May 11, 2017 11:38
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May 11, 2017 12:05
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B A A ! I say.
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May 11, 2017 13:12
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Honest ABE.
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May 11, 2017 13:25
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AAA disregard for the plight of the workers is unsustainable. (Secondary, BBC)
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May 11, 2017 14:15
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A B B, A If we're going to go for democracy, might as well go all in. Korea would be too much of a hassle to fight, as opposed to one of our smaller colonies like the Pacific islands or Formosa, so we may as well try to get the best deal possible from them.
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May 11, 2017 14:16
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May 11, 2017 14:39
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B, B, B.
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May 11, 2017 15:02
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123 ABC/E
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May 11, 2017 16:36
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A A E
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May 11, 2017 16:45
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 Vote ABE!
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May 11, 2017 16:51
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A: There are ongoing disruptions as a result of recent political events in Japan, that is true. However, we have not yet had time for the full consequences of our proposed path to play out. Whilst I admit I am tempted to support measures against the more radical left, I do not think we should choose that course without greater cause. For the time being, allow matters to proceed according to the wishes of the electorate. In time the situation should calm, a civil society grow, and the benefits can be reaped. B: I am convinced by the words of my colleague Plutonis. If we are to show the world the superiority of our glorious realm, we cannot do so simply by mimicry, nor by brute exploitation. If we were to quash the Korean desire for independence now, we would not settle the matter. We would simply return to this question every generation. And there is no guarantee we would even achieve that, for we may be evicted or dragged into a long and bloody guerilla conflict. No, let us raise up the Korean people, our kin, and become sincere compatriots in guarding Asia. If we work together we will have more than the strength of both, rather than less as we bleed and bomb each other. 1:A 2:E: It is not clear to me that armored warfare is the wisest course of action given the regions our forces are likely to be operating in. Coasts, islands, mountains, and jungles do not seem conducive to that form of warfare. Rather, let us focus on the expertise of the Japanese soldier, enraptured with the spirit of Banzai!, and train the most adaptable weapon we have to function in whatever field is required. That said, I will defer to the judgment of my peers if they do decide upon armored doctrine, and I do see particular merit in it if we were to fight in theaters in northern China, Mongolia, or Siberia - all of which are quite possible.
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May 11, 2017 17:19
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Option A: Fully Reaffirm the Liberal Path This shitshow got started because a right-wing hit team assassinated a political party leader. Without that, we would not have radical totalists assassinating the Prime Minister. We can't let these thugs know their tactics will work with further destabilizing crackdowns of exactly the kind they'd want. Option B: Korea Could Be Our Partner, Not Our Subject Clearly, we have enough trouble with dissidents at home, no need to have to wrangle them abroad too. Option B: Defensive Focus Meh.
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May 11, 2017 17:24
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May 11, 2017 17:51
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ABE
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May 11, 2017 18:36
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A: Let's not HohenLP it up here. We've supported liberalism and we'd better follow through and stick the landing. B: We should avoid being tyrants abroad every bit as much as we're striving for that at home. Ranked Preferences: 1: C, 2: B, 3: E Hopefully that formatting makes sense for the instant-runoff voting...
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May 11, 2017 19:46
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Shinzo ABE 
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May 11, 2017 19:56
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Lustful Man Hugs posted:Shinzo ABE How could i not vote this?
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May 11, 2017 20:06
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Gotta vote for ABEnomics.
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May 11, 2017 20:25
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C A A
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May 12, 2017 03:21
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May 12, 2017 03:27
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May 12, 2017 09:02
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May 12, 2017 13:52
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1:BCA 2:AB 3:DECAB First we must ensure the capitalist project goes ahead with far fewer interruptions, if this requires the liberal element of the reforms to be discarded that will be a minor setback but far less troubling to the revolution than these pigheaded peasants playing as the proletariat gaining power. As for Korea, nationalism only slows the capitalist project, and creates artificial division between workers. A truly global economic order without borders is necessary for true socialism to emerge. Crush them. Recruiting vast sources of manpower will act as stimulus for the economy through wages paid. We can use this army of surplus labour to build large scale public works projects which will in turn help drag us out of this economic depression. A BAD policy is simply good policy!
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May 13, 2017 10:55
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ABE
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May 13, 2017 19:16
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Kavak posted:A A E/C Based off my reading of the event files, it doesn't force you into military rule but if I read it wrong, I'll mod the events so that the will of this thread stays because that'd be lame to have a thread decision overruled by the game like that. The voting ends tonight, you can edit your votes if you want to add second/third/etc preferences. The way WhiskeyWhiskers has formatted it is perfect by the way.
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May 13, 2017 20:11
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May 13, 2017 20:20
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ABC BA CBAED
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May 14, 2017 21:59
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Voting is closed! POLICY VOTE #1: Liberalization Policy Option A: Reaffirm Liberalization - 29 votes Option B: Crack Down on The Left - 3 votes Option C: Military Rule - 4 votes Liberalization is reaffirmed! POLICY VOTE #2: Korea Policy Option A: Japanese Korea - 14 votes Option B: Respect Korean Nationalism - 22 votes Autonomous Korea! POLICY VOTE #3: Military Doctrine After elimating D, B and A: Option A: Light Infantry - 8 first preference votes, 1 second preference vote, 9 total votes Option B: Defensive - 3 first preference votes, 3 total votes Option C: Firepower - 9 first preference votes, 1 second preference vote, 10 total votes Option D: Manpower - 1 first preference vote, 1 total votes Option E: Mobility - 15 first preference votes, 3 second preference votes, 18 votes Mobility!
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Part Three (May-November 1936): Normalcy at All Costs The Atlantic Monthly October 1936 A Rising Sun for Liberalism? Or a Last Gasp? Lawrence Garrett There has been a lot of press attention about a Japanese delegation of four that has travelled along the West Coast in recent months. They each represent a center of power in Japanese politics: the Imperial Japanese Army, the Imperial Japanese Navy, the conservative Rikken Seiyūkai, and the liberal Rikken Minseitō.  The army and navy are ostensibly in California as military attaches to the diplomatic mission of the civilian government, but the military’s role in Japanese politics is nothing new. Factions of the military regularly plot to influence Japanese politics in various ways. Radical officers in the Navy were behind the assassination of the Prime Minister last spring, and the current debate between the establishment-friendly Centralist faction and the radical Restorationist faction has turned into a power struggle that has made the already tense situation in Japan worse.    The daily news of Japanese politics causes fear and uncertainty, only broken up by diversions like the Helsinki Olympics, in which the Japanese swimming team did extremely well.  Those kinds of happy moments only provide the Seiyukai and Minseito brief respite from the unresolved tensions in Japanese politics. Thus the liberal-democratic establishment in Japan makes deal after deal with forces that seek to displace it. At first, the Minseito sought and received a settlement with the Shakai Taishuto to bring an end to civil disturbances in Niigata. Now the Seiyukai has thrown its support behind Restorationism, despite the public views of Restorationist officers that the parliamentary system ought to be eliminated.  The troubles of Japan are not confined to the Home Islands. Korea, the most important part of Japan’s empire, has seen a marked increase in nationalist activity.  An initial rumor that Germany would back the Korean cause turned out to be false.  However, there is strong evidence that Russia has been aiding Korean nationalist militias.  These kinds of crises have caused many a government to adopt authoritarian policies, but Japan somehow resists this temptation. For this reason, liberals and democrats in the United States have looked to Japan since MacArthur’s seizure of power for an example of how democracy can survive.  However, the Japanese democrats are far from out of the woods. The ambitious military programs of the Restorationists have caused concern in the Diet, mainly about their cost but also about some of the cultural ramifications of the Army’s militarist propaganda.  Many of Obata’s doctrines are untested, and there is also concern amongst the Navy elite that his belief in tanks will cause Japan’s scarce resources to be diverted away from the Navy, something the island nation is obviously reliant upon.  The conservative Prime Minister has been haunted by his failure to pass a “national security” bill, not dissimilar from the Emergency Security Act passed in the United States, that was backed by many in the military, elite and bureaucracy. The threat of his government collapsing is very real.  More real and perhaps more frightening is the threat of a military coup. If the population at large loses faith in the parliament, there will be very little chance that the government could stand up to an Army or Navy coup.  This is why Americans should be wary when liberals in the United States point to Japan as an example. Even as our country seems to be on the brink of disaster, Japan may not be far behind us on the road to ruin. We do have MacArthur, but Japan may have Obata soon enough.  The syndicalists may run the industrial cities, but the Shakai Taishuto has nearly as much influence in some Japanese industrial centers.  The authoritarian and racist tendencies of the America First movement are mirrored in similarly jingoistic groups that preach Japanese supremacy. Japan, much like the United States, faces a very uncertain road ahead. POLICY VOTE #1: A General Policy On Foreign Nations PROBLEM: Japan already has colonies, and there is already a policy in place to give Korea its partial independence if it desires. However, what about Formosa and territories that may come under Japanese dominion in the future? Should Japan seek direct control over these territories or set up puppet states underneath the auspices of a pan-Asian organization with Japan at its head? (Note: if Option B succeeds, there may be future votes about specific territories that have unique considerations and may be good to release as a puppet, China and its enormous territory for instance.) Option A: Puppet States Formosa will be given puppet status if the event to do so fires. Conquered nations will be released as puppets under military control. quote:”What use is it to evict the Europeans from Asian lands only to replace their inefficient and brutal empire with a copy? We will only become powerful enough to truly defeat the Germans if we have allies that add to the total capability of the Empire, not subtract from it by requiring constant attention. Japan will be first among equals.” – Akifumi Hoshino, IJN Officer Option B: Direct Control Territory will remain Japanese. quote:”Land that absorbs Japanese blood becomes Japanese land!” – Guy on the street in Tokyo POLICY VOTE #2: Expansionism PROBLEM: Asia is still mostly dominated by European and American influences. Bringing Asia out of the darkness will be a tough task, but if we are to do it, we must decide where to start. (Note: These event trees work in such a way that when one is completed, it is possible to start another one. Therefore if we choose A, then B and C will not become impossible and if and when A is resolved, there would be another vote to choose another path. Also, there will be a further vote about which subpath to go down in each tree.) Option A: The Pacific (Phillippines/Indonesia/Australasia) (Note: Guam will be seized no matter which path is chosen because it’s a free province.) quote:”The troubles in America present an opportunity for us. We will have the opportunity to expand our reach, in the Phillippines or perhaps the Dutch East Indies. Australasia itself even?” - Ikuei Andou, IJN Officer Option B: Germany (German colonies/Qing) quote:”A fine suggestion but Germany would never allow us to go through with it. We must go straight for the throat of Germany! With them in the way, we will never be able to achieve our goals.” – Shousei Motsuzuki, IJA Officer Option C: The North (Russia/Mongolia) quote:”It is far too soon to dream of a confrontation with Germany. The troubles of the last year have made it difficult to grow our military. We must become more powerful before we attempt something like that. We need resources, resources that they have in the north. Russia? Mongolia? That is a more prudent path in my opinion.” - Fumitake Irie, IJA Officer
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A, B Germany has barely had time to build a presence in the Pacific compared to Russia and the Entente and China is the main priority in Asia.
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May 17, 2017 18:32
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B C,A,B Formosa must be fully integrated into Japan! And the rotting Russian state will crumble quickly once we strike and take all of Siberia for the Japanese Empire! Germany is too strong, so taking the resources of Indonesia would be an ideal backup plan.
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1: A 2: B, C, A Germany, as master of Europe, is priority number one if we seek to end European hegemony in the Pacific. gently caress the kaiser
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