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vyelkin: Jan 2, 2011

It's unlikely the LG would call another election if this all happened within a few months. It would be treated as just the teething-in period while the new parliament figures out who does and doesn't have confidence. Generally in a situation like this the only thing that would cause another election is if no one is able to get confidence, i.e. if the Greens decline to support either the Liberals or the NDP, which is highly unlikely.

Then again I don't know anything about the BC LG, so maybe they're a crazy person who would dissolve the house rather than give the NDP a chance to form government.

# ? May 11, 2017 15:58

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McGavin: Sep 18, 2012

Square Peg posted:

And maybe a mega tsunami will raze everything from the coast to Hope next year, it's about as likely.

So the mega tsunami will wipe out all of the NDP ridings? :waycool:

# ? May 11, 2017 16:10

Femtosecond: Aug 2, 2003

Setting side all the speculation of recounts and coalition governments and assuming things progress as expected with a minority Liberal government, what do the BC NDP do now?

This election wasn't a shocking and spectacular failure like 2013, but it was a failure just the same. The NDP learned from their mistakes of 2013 and ran a more competent campaign with a better leader against an even more unpopular BC Liberal leader, and yet the NDP received about the same share of the popular vote as 2013. They received more seats in Metro Vancouver, but lost seats in the interior. In Metro Vancouver they were greatly helped by the BC Liberals' extremely poor handling of a once a generation epic housing crisis. There's a good chance next election the set of issues may not be so much in their favour.

It's becoming apparent that it's more likely that the BC Greens took vote share from the BC Liberals, not the NDP and so the NDP has no one to blame for its failure to win a majority but itself here. The party should be wondering why any disaffected left leaning voters went to the Greens and not the NDP.

Turn out didn't increase substantially, rising from 55% to 57%. The NDP wasn't able to mobilize a ton of angry millenials and new voters.

If the party hadn't lost support in the interior it may have won. The party needs to figure this out more than anything.

It feels like the party has hit a ceiling of support with their current approach. The party has been making minor tweaks to policies and the leader for the last couple elections and hasn't been moving the needle. It is becoming routine to see the NDP roll out a similar set of promises from election to election.

The party either needs to put in a ton of effort to materialize new voters and increase turnout in its favour, or substantial policy changes are needed to broaden the set of voters that will consider the party.

# ? May 11, 2017 16:28

McGavin: Sep 18, 2012

Christy Clark's Jobs Plan: Mandarin speaking butlers for our Chinese landed gentry.

quote:

Mandarin Speaking Butler/Lady's Maid Required for 18 Acre Ranch Family Home
Polo & Tweed - Richmond, BC
$70,000 - $130,000 a year

A Chinese family have just purchased a luxury 18 acre ranch in Richmond, British Columbia, Canada and are looking for an experienced Butler who speaks fluent Mandarin.

Background

The international family travel regularly but as their two daughters are studying in the USA, they have made a home in Canada. They have just bought an 8 bedroom, 18 acre ranch, with various outbuildings, staff accommodation, swimming pool, tennis court and large garage for multiple vehicles. They have a small, friendly dog.

Duties

You would be required to perform all Butler and House Management duties. Managing/recruiting day staff, running the household to the highest level, managing schedules, food and drink service, guest welcoming and service, running errands, shopping, dog walking. You should be flexible and able to perform your duties to a high standard. You should also be able to speak fluent Mandarin as the husband regularly travels and the wife is home alone and would like to be able to communicate easily with you.

Location/Accommodation

Richmond, British Columbia, Canada. You will be provided seperate staff accommodation on the ranch. This has a bedroom, bathroom, living room, kitchen etc. The family are open to couples and if you'd like to bring your partner/wife/husband this can be arranged.

Days/Hours

Between 1 - 2 days off a week (but flexible on the days is required). Working hours would be typically 9am to 7pm, be able to help with dinner prep and clear up.

Languages

Fluent Mandarin must be spoken. A good level of English is required to communicate with the local community.

Special Skills.

You should hold a full driving licence.

Package Offered

The family will pay extremely well for the right person. They wish to find someone committed to stay long term with the family.

Interview/Start date

The client is interviewing in the next couple of weeks. After interviews there will be a trial, leading to employment, as soon as possible.

Job Type: Full-time

Salary: $70,000.00 to $130,000.00 /year

Required experience:

Butler: 1 year
Lady's Maid: 1 year

Required language:

Mandarin

Required licenses or certifications:

Drivers Licence
Legal right to work in Canada

# ? May 11, 2017 16:42

Skippy Granola: Sep 3, 2011; It's not what it looks like.

Dang I should learn Mandarin

# ? May 11, 2017 16:49

HappyHippo: Nov 19, 2003; Do you have an Air Miles Card?

vyelkin posted:

Ontario Liberals were reduced to a minority in Dalton McGuinty's last election and then won a majority under Wynne.

Haha remember when the NDP held the balance of power and extracted a bunch of concessions in the budget and then threw it all away to give the liberals a majority?

# ? May 11, 2017 17:03

leftist heap: Feb 28, 2013; Fun Shoe

Femtosecond posted:

Setting side all the speculation of recounts and coalition governments and assuming things progress as expected with a minority Liberal government, what do the BC NDP do now?

This election wasn't a shocking and spectacular failure like 2013, but it was a failure just the same. The NDP learned from their mistakes of 2013 and ran a more competent campaign with a better leader against an even more unpopular BC Liberal leader, and yet the NDP received about the same share of the popular vote as 2013. They received more seats in Metro Vancouver, but lost seats in the interior. In Metro Vancouver they were greatly helped by the BC Liberals' extremely poor handling of a once a generation epic housing crisis. There's a good chance next election the set of issues may not be so much in their favour.

It's becoming apparent that it's more likely that the BC Greens took vote share from the BC Liberals, not the NDP and so the NDP has no one to blame for its failure to win a majority but itself here. The party should be wondering why any disaffected left leaning voters went to the Greens and not the NDP.

Turn out didn't increase substantially, rising from 55% to 57%. The NDP wasn't able to mobilize a ton of angry millenials and new voters.

If the party hadn't lost support in the interior it may have won. The party needs to figure this out more than anything.

It feels like the party has hit a ceiling of support with their current approach. The party has been making minor tweaks to policies and the leader for the last couple elections and hasn't been moving the needle. It is becoming routine to see the NDP roll out a similar set of promises from election to election.

The party either needs to put in a ton of effort to materialize new voters and increase turnout in its favour, or substantial policy changes are needed to broaden the set of voters that will consider the party.

Wait for more boomers to die off by next election? Covertly fund a right wing party to siphon votes off of the BC Liberals? I said this long ago but the NDP is in demographics hell right now with a boomer population that hates their guts because the 90s and a rural population that is virtually indistinguishable from Alberta. Unfortunately the only way to woo those people is basically (and almost literally) promise to gently caress over younger generations and to vow to amp up resource extraction industries as fast as possible, consequences be damned. Mount Polley is proof rural BC doesn't give a flying gently caress about any consequence of resource industries short of white people dying en masse (and even then).

Realistically they should be hoping and praying that some combination of they and the Green party can make good on the promises to reform campaign finance rules. Let's not forget that the BC Liberal party raises more money than any provincial party in the entire country. That is a huge advantage. They are able to advertise their way out of being the most shamelessly and transparently corrupt party in Canada.

# ? May 11, 2017 17:13

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

Just wait for Weaver to show his true blue colours and pick up the defectors. Better luck next time.

# ? May 11, 2017 17:23

Stanley Pain: Jun 16, 2001; by Fluffdaddy

Skippy Granola posted:

Dang I should learn Mandarin

# ? May 11, 2017 17:46

CLAM DOWN: Feb 13, 2007

Mandarin is too hard, I am just a gwai lo I guess

# ? May 11, 2017 17:49

Skippy Granola: Sep 3, 2011; It's not what it looks like.

Is Ni-hao Kai-Lan still on Treehouse? I could learn from a cartoon cat

# ? May 11, 2017 17:56

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

Skippy Granola posted:

Is Ni-hao Kai-Lan still on Treehouse? I could learn from a cartoon cat

Shi

# ? May 11, 2017 17:59

cowofwar: Jul 30, 2002; by Athanatos

Femtosecond posted:

Setting side all the speculation of recounts and coalition governments and assuming things progress as expected with a minority Liberal government, what do the BC NDP do now?

This election wasn't a shocking and spectacular failure like 2013, but it was a failure just the same. The NDP learned from their mistakes of 2013 and ran a more competent campaign with a better leader against an even more unpopular BC Liberal leader, and yet the NDP received about the same share of the popular vote as 2013. They received more seats in Metro Vancouver, but lost seats in the interior. In Metro Vancouver they were greatly helped by the BC Liberals' extremely poor handling of a once a generation epic housing crisis. There's a good chance next election the set of issues may not be so much in their favour.

It's becoming apparent that it's more likely that the BC Greens took vote share from the BC Liberals, not the NDP and so the NDP has no one to blame for its failure to win a majority but itself here. The party should be wondering why any disaffected left leaning voters went to the Greens and not the NDP.

Turn out didn't increase substantially, rising from 55% to 57%. The NDP wasn't able to mobilize a ton of angry millenials and new voters.

If the party hadn't lost support in the interior it may have won. The party needs to figure this out more than anything.

It feels like the party has hit a ceiling of support with their current approach. The party has been making minor tweaks to policies and the leader for the last couple elections and hasn't been moving the needle. It is becoming routine to see the NDP roll out a similar set of promises from election to election.

The party either needs to put in a ton of effort to materialize new voters and increase turnout in its favour, or substantial policy changes are needed to broaden the set of voters that will consider the party.

Canadian parties rarely win by changing hearts or minds, they win by chance that they take swing ridings because of voter apathy for their opponent and general chance. Don't construct some bullshit narrative.

# ? May 11, 2017 18:39

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

namaste faggots posted:

I voted this morning

I'm pretty disappointed that Conny wasn't able to beat the Green candidate. The 55 year old CEO of a company trying to market a 3-wheeled electric car for $20,000 ( :laugh:

) deserved to have his poo poo pushed in - especially after he claimed that Weaver is "BC's Barack Obama"

Juul-Whip fucked around with this message at 18:47 on May 11, 2017

# ? May 11, 2017 18:42

Nine of Eight: Apr 28, 2011; LICK IT OFF, AND PUT IT BACK IN; Dinosaur Gum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkscI07s-4o
Ottawa Mayor Jim Watson apparently decided that he'd try and steal BC's thunder and make an even dumber decision by raising a march for life flag over city hall and declaring it a city wide day for life :allbuttons:

# ? May 11, 2017 19:12

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Impressive.

That's a "channeling the ghost of Rob Ford" level gently caress up.

# ? May 11, 2017 19:24

Jordan7hm: Feb 17, 2011; Lipstick Apathy

Nine of Eight posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkscI07s-4o
Ottawa Mayor Jim Watson apparently decided that he'd try and steal BC's thunder and make an even dumber decision by raising a march for life flag over city hall and declaring it a city wide day for life

What the gently caress

# ? May 11, 2017 19:26

flakeloaf: Feb 26, 2003; Still better than android clock

Chinless Jim has said multiple times in the past that he proclaims days based on requests from a group of sufficient size, and doesn't mean for a proclamation to mean he or the city supports or opposes any viewpoint, which is kinda bullshit because he's not going to declare Heil Hitler Day just because a bunch of good ole boys figured out how pens work but that's neither here nor there because at least it's consistent. I'm pretty sure he's done it in the past, on those special days when a bunch of kids get pulled out of school to go wave banners and tell the world how women should only have filthy backalley abortions that make them infertile or dead instead of the safe kind. The flag is a new trick.

e: And it's a trick that at least seven of our councillors aren't too thrilled with

https://twitter.com/JLeiper/status/862716398807785472

# ? May 11, 2017 19:31

cowofwar: Jul 30, 2002; by Athanatos

Like any of these suggestions would ever happen.

Just submit your FINTRAC reports directly in to the garbage.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/weaknesses-financial-intelligence-canada-1.4106391

# ? May 11, 2017 19:31

Postess with the Mostest: Apr 4, 2007; Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

Jordan7hm posted:

What the gently caress

That old religious guy is so drat stoked to have that flag up there, he's unironically tickled pink. I couldn't say no to that guy.

# ? May 11, 2017 19:31

flakeloaf: Feb 26, 2003; Still better than android clock

Is that a legion uniform that guy's wearing or what?

# ? May 11, 2017 19:34

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Postess with the Mostest posted:

he's unironically tickled pink.

I'm pretty sure that's 60 years of alcoholism doing that. He'd be that colour flag or no.

# ? May 11, 2017 19:36

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

Postess with the Mostest posted:

That old religious guy is so drat stoked to have that flag up there, he's unironically tickled pink. I couldn't say no to that guy.

That is what PTSD looks like

# ? May 11, 2017 19:39

Vintersorg: Mar 3, 2004; President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club

Nine of Eight posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkscI07s-4o
Ottawa Mayor Jim Watson apparently decided that he'd try and steal BC's thunder and make an even dumber decision by raising a march for life flag over city hall and declaring it a city wide day for life

Yo gently caress this.

# ? May 11, 2017 19:39

CLAM DOWN: Feb 13, 2007

Nine of Eight posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkscI07s-4o
Ottawa Mayor Jim Watson apparently decided that he'd try and steal BC's thunder and make an even dumber decision by raising a march for life flag over city hall and declaring it a city wide day for life

gently caress Ottawa

# ? May 11, 2017 19:45

flakeloaf: Feb 26, 2003; Still better than android clock

https://twitter.com/JimWatsonOttawa/status/862737694547468288

Mayor agrees own flag-raising policy might be bogus, promises swift.... something.

# ? May 11, 2017 19:50

Jordan7hm: Feb 17, 2011; Lipstick Apathy

His timeline is basically just "wasn't my decision, won't happen again"

# ? May 11, 2017 20:05

flakeloaf: Feb 26, 2003; Still better than android clock

Jordan7hm posted:

His timeline is basically just "wasn't my decision, won't happen again"

https://twitter.com/JimWatsonOttawa/status/862741035260235776

The system works.

# ? May 11, 2017 20:07

ZShakespeare: Jul 20, 2003; War gives the right to the conquerors to impose any condition they please upon the vanquished.

THC posted:

Just wait for Weaver to show his true blue colours and pick up the defectors. Better luck next time.

What if Horgan is also a cryptocon and this whole thing is just show to make us think we have a choice??? :tinfoil:

# ? May 11, 2017 20:24

tagesschau: Sep 1, 2006; Guten Abend, meine Damen und Herren.

Hey, Drewjitsu:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/impaired-driving-legislation-c46-charter-1.4109942

CBC posted:

"The information revealed from a breath sample is, like the production of a driver's licence, simply information about whether a driver is complying with one of the conditions imposed in the highly regulated context of driving. It does not reveal any personal or sensitive information and taking the sample is quick, and not physically invasive."

Can't wait until they come up with other "highly regulated contexts."

# ? May 11, 2017 20:35

Legit Businessman: Sep 2, 2007

Legit Businessman fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Sep 9, 2022

# ? May 11, 2017 20:41

RealityWarCriminal: Aug 10, 2016

Rime posted:

The last time BC switched the voting system to proportional represetation, it was specifically to prevent the NDP from gaining any seats in the legislature. Instead it killed the provincial Liberal and Conservative parties for the next forty years.

Wait, so BC switched back to first past the post? What th gently caress.

# ? May 11, 2017 20:58

Reince Penis: Nov 15, 2007; by R. Guyovich

flakeloaf posted:

https://twitter.com/JimWatsonOttawa/status/862741035260235776

The system works.

For real though kudos to him for calling it anti-abortion flag and not pro-life flag

# ? May 11, 2017 21:04

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

I wouldn't call a guy who endorsed Gordon Campbell's BC Liberals and voted for multiple Liberal budgets a crypto-conservative. A better term for that would be "a conservative"

# ? May 11, 2017 21:39

Fried Watermelon: Dec 29, 2008

Let's get the SA flag up there

# ? May 11, 2017 21:45

ZShakespeare: Jul 20, 2003; War gives the right to the conquerors to impose any condition they please upon the vanquished.

THC posted:

I wouldn't call a guy who endorsed Gordon Campbell's BC Liberals and voted for multiple Liberal budgets a crypto-conservative. A better term for that would be "a conservative"

If being the leader of the only party whose platform is advancing universal basic income makes you conservative then what we need is more conservatives and less faux socialists.

# ? May 11, 2017 22:19

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

UBI is increasingly popular with capitalists and has been sternly criticized from the left. Weaver himself is pretty conservative, this becomes obvious if you spend any time looking into him

# ? May 11, 2017 22:30

PT6A: Jan 5, 2006; Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

THC posted:

UBI is increasingly popular with capitalists and has been sternly criticized from the left.

Does the left have any criticisms beyond "capitalists like the idea?"

# ? May 11, 2017 22:31

Postess with the Mostest: Apr 4, 2007; Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

THC posted:

UBI is increasingly popular with capitalists and has been sternly criticized from the left.

Rich people like ME don't deserve a check from poor people like YOU.

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PT6A: Jan 5, 2006; Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

I mean, I totally get why capitalists are coming around to the idea, since it's basically a way to move money from the idle rich into the hands of businesses via people buying necessary goods and services, but I don't see why leftists would be against that kind of redistribution. It seems like everyone gets what they want, except rich people who just want to sit on their money, and those people are a drain on the economy.

# ? May 11, 2017 22:34

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