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Thor-Stryker posted:I also didn't like FO: New Vegas because 80% of the map felt uninspired and empty compared to FO 3. FNV is still the best entry. FO4 is packed full of stuff map-wise but it's rather shallow. Bloodlines remake/sequel would be amazing.
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Sinteres posted:They've owned Bioware since before the first Mass Effect or Dragon Age ever came out. Bioware's way bigger now than it ever was before EA bought it, so the idea that they bought Bioware to exploit its reputation and destroy it in a pump and dump is pretty silly. That isn't to say that EA doesn't have problems with churning out content at the expense of quality, but they aren't trying to kill Bioware. It's not a pump-and-dump it's a long term divestment strategy.
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# ? May 11, 2017 17:39 |
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A rushed development cycle definitely contributed to the flaws in DA2 and ME3 but Andromeda had five years to get off the ground, so you can't put this one all on EA. It seems like Bioware bungled the project through and through.
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Burkion posted:It's like you don't even believe in the porn industry Eh I wouldn't say awful. They served their purpose.
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exquisite tea posted:A rushed development cycle definitely contributed to the flaws in DA2 and ME3 but Andromeda had five years to get off the ground, so you can't put this one all on EA. It seems like Bioware bungled the project through and through. To a point. EA are most likely the guys who got the ball rolling on some of the transfers and firings that set BioWare up to be what it is today.
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exquisite tea posted:A rushed development cycle definitely contributed to the flaws in DA2 and ME3 but Andromeda had five years to get off the ground, so you can't put this one all on EA. It seems like Bioware bungled the project through and through. for comparison: ME1 took 3 years, ME2 took 2.
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# ? May 11, 2017 17:49 |
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EA is to blame for laying MEA at the feet of a grunt work studio. The rest of the mismanagement is pretty much all on Bioware Montreal.
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I hope somebody does a postmortem on what happened with Andromeda but I suspect all its problems stemmed from a total lack of unified vision on what kind of game it should be and what story it should tell, from the first reveal trailer right up to release.
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# ? May 11, 2017 17:53 |
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christ, I new development on DA2 was intentionally short, but it was less than a year - 9 months! - from announcement to launch
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exquisite tea posted:I hope somebody does a postmortem on what happened with Andromeda but I suspect all its problems stemmed from a total lack of unified vision on what kind of game it should be and what story it should tell, from the first reveal trailer right up to release. I still am not really sure what the game was about, and I completed almost every quest.
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# ? May 11, 2017 17:55 |
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quick: what is the main narrative theme of Mass Effect: Andromeda
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# ? May 11, 2017 17:55 |
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being entirely unprepared, as a rookie, for the challenges that await you? https://www.polygon.com/2017/3/23/15039926/mass-effect-andromeda-animation-what-happened-former-animator-speaks-out
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Pattonesque posted:quick: what is the main narrative theme of Mass Effect: Andromeda Trash mobs. No one caring about what you are doing.
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JawKnee posted:being entirely unprepared, as a rookie, for the challenges that await you? You write what you know I guess lol.
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JawKnee posted:christ, I new development on DA2 was intentionally short, but it was less than a year - 9 months! - from announcement to launch That doesn't have to mean it really took 9 months, in fact I'm sure it doesn't, if that's what you're getting at. I think most of the problems with the game besides the messy and unfinished area design, weird combat and strange quest design stem from the studio experimenting and trying new things which could have worked well, but really didn't. Then there's the awful characters which I'm not entirely sure how they became a thing.
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# ? May 11, 2017 18:04 |
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The characters in DA2 are far more memorable than literally any from Inquisition or DAO, and it is Bioware's best cast by far.
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evilmiera posted:That doesn't have to mean it really took 9 months Sure, but while I can find 'pre-development started at X' for some other games (ME1, ME2) I can't find that for DA2. All I can find is the announcement date. But I do know that there's a thread floating around in archives somewhere where a goon claimed to be a senior dev at Bioware, and that DA2 had a 1 year dev cycle.
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Pick posted:The characters in DA2 are far more memorable than literally any from Inquisition or DAO, and it is Bioware's best cast by far.
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Pick posted:The characters in DA2 are far more memorable than literally any from Inquisition or DAO, and it is Bioware's best cast by far. ME2/DA1 are the best casts e: with the edge going handily to ME2
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Groetgaffel posted:I'm sorry DA2 damaged your brain, friend. It's the best game of all time and the characters are a huge part of that.
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The real question is whether you think DA2 is a better, worse, or similar game to ME:A. I think it was better, but then again I never finished ME:A because I just got too bored halfway through. DA2's story was kinda nonsensical towards the very end but I still played it twice.
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# ? May 11, 2017 18:31 |
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There's so much I'd be more willing to put up with if Mass Effect Andromeda's story was actually compelling. A lot of what drove me to complete the game through all of its bugs and issues - and a lot of the fun I convinced myself I was having - was towards the understanding (misplaced, as it turned out) that this was leading to something. As it is, it's just a mystery box. So much has been shafted into either DLC or proposed future games that the story itself is as incomplete as the rest of the game. Among the major questions completely unanswered that should have been dealt with: What is the scourge? Who is the benefactor? Who killed Jein Garson? There's no one else in Andromeda? Not even hints of another species, either in relics or in Kett Databases? Are the Kett just all evil fucks? Really? Why are the Angorans such a loving lovely race? (More meta) Where's the Quarian Ark? Why did your dad leave, umm, glowing things all over different planets for you to discover just to get some understanding of what led you to Andromeda? What the gently caress was that all about? He couldn't just loving tell you? (I get aggravated just thinking about this one, how it's such an artificial way to gate progress - why can't people just loving talk to each other instead of keeping everything super secret - especially after they are dead?) For old time's sake: Why am I shooting this tube? Also regarding Mac Walters being an idiot: If biologics vs. synthetics is such a universal problem, why aren't there any synthetic intelligences in Andromeda? (The remnant are effectively VIs, not AIs) ashpanash fucked around with this message at 18:35 on May 11, 2017 |
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Admiral Ray posted:The real question is whether you think DA2 is a better, worse, or similar game to ME:A. DA2 also has the benefit of being a realistic length. It has limited chaff compared to DAI and MEA.
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ashpanash posted:Who is the benefactor? Are we going to pretend that the answer to both of those questions isn't going to be Cerberus?
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Thor-Stryker posted:I still haven't finished it for similar reasons. I loved classics like the Baldur's Gate series, but PoE's lore and style just felt very generic and Tolkien-esque. There wasn't a lot of creativity aside from the god system. PoE's lore is so far from generic Tolkien though. Like...maybe if you just scan the surface and are like, "oh, it has elves and wizards". It also has militaristic Hawaiian shark people, fantasy races as ethnic groups within unrelated countries rather than the residents of ethnonations, a war where the winning side blew up a god with explosives, a large imperial nation that isn't a video game-brand "evil empire", and people with weird death bug heads. To top it off it's designed around Renaissance/Age of Sail-era cultures rather than medieval ones. One of the best things about that game is that it's very very intent on deviating from fantasy tropes and creating a fantasy world that's built around historical and sociological ideas, rather than around the echo of them you get from Tolkien. I think the actual content of its lore is pretty distinct from what you'd consider generic fantasy, and a million miles from Tolkien certainly. Style, I'd give you.
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Singing Sunflower posted:Are we going to pretend that the answer to both of those questions isn't going to be Cerberus? I'm just saying it was set up and not answered, not that the obvious answer isn't staring us in the face. The point being, we can't even evaluate how dumb the answers actually are - and we probably won't get the chance. Maybe they'll be put it some book that I absolutely will never read.
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Singing Sunflower posted:Are we going to pretend that the answer to both of those questions isn't going to be Cerberus? Do we even know that she's dead? The body was unrecognizable, wasn't it? It would be kinda dumb but let's not pretend that they wouldn't do it as a DLC hook
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exquisite tea posted:I hope somebody does a postmortem on what happened with Andromeda but I suspect all its problems stemmed from a total lack of unified vision on what kind of game it should be and what story it should tell, from the first reveal trailer right up to release. Bioware was doing focus testing for Andromeda two years ago and one of the participants posted the survey they received. They stuck to this general outline but scaled it way back in scope. quote:Sometimes I take surveys online for a little extra money.
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Pick posted:It's the best game of all time and the characters are a huge part of that. I dont know why you think this gimmick is good or funny?
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Pattonesque posted:give Mass Effect to Obsidian imo Andromeda is already missing a strong ending though christmas boots fucked around with this message at 19:36 on May 11, 2017 |
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Moola posted:I dont know why you think this gimmick is good or funny? It's not a gimmick.
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# ? May 11, 2017 19:34 |
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Meredith fan. Good taste. It's a shame you don't get her backstory unless you do the Templar route, because it's pretty cool and adds more dimensionality to her character for sure.
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# ? May 11, 2017 19:41 |
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Meredith is awesome and she's also basically right even if I usually side with the mages anyway.
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# ? May 11, 2017 19:42 |
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Ah yes Hawke, I can see you are a mage, and I hate mages so much that I do unspeakable things to them, but I'm not going to do them to you because
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JawKnee posted:Ah yes Hawke, I can see you are a mage, and I hate mages so much that I do unspeakable things to them, but I'm not going to do them to you because The answer is pretty much entirely "because you are rich" which imho adds credibility to the game if anything.
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# ? May 11, 2017 19:44 |
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I wish they'd stuck with the original plan and had whichever faction leader you side with prove to be vindicated while the other one goes all wacky monster when they're about to lose. That would be smarter and make Orsino/Meredith more interesting characters. Admittedly it is pretty cool if you're mage Hawke and side with the templars that she has an extra line about how you're trying to use blood magic to subvert the templars when she turns on you.
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Pick posted:The answer is pretty much entirely "because you are rich" which imho adds credibility to the game if anything. hahaha
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Pick posted:It's not a gimmick. what am I looking at here?
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# ? May 11, 2017 19:49 |
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big time bisexual posted:Bioware was doing focus testing for Andromeda two years ago and one of the participants posted the survey they received. They stuck to this general outline but scaled it way back in scope. So take that, remove almost all proposed feature depth and plug it into mass effect, and you get Andromeda
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Moola posted:what am I looking at here? A massive nerd that has video game memorabilia on her wall. I'd like to see her stop a home invader with her generic medieval fantasy poster. Probably should have invested in some fine hanzo steel
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