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Speaking of Lavy, apparently the motivating imagery he conjured up this year for the team at the beginning of the season was to be an angry dog fighting to keep its bone. He had a cartoon of this put up in a couple places in the arena/locker room and it's why the player of the game thing they do after each game is handing out a dog chain thing. They also have a cartoon dog on their player hoodies and listen to AC/DC's "Givin the Dog a Bone" after wins. They put this bandaid with Fiala's number on one of the dogs.   Edit: Man, the veins on that dog look gross. And nobody tell Gnash.
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May 11, 2017 21:30
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May 11, 2017 21:33
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The Sens have really good possession and are also good at winning faceoffs. Also, and I keep telling you this, the Sens are actually really good. The ECF ain't gonna go the way the sports journalists think it's gonna go. I'm not saying something stupid like Sens in 4. These are the Penguins we're playing, here. But I'm also not NOT saying "Sens in 6".
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May 11, 2017 21:48
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I also actually think the Senators are pretty good and have a decent chance to win the ECF, particularly because Karlsson may run wild on the Penguins' old slow defensemen (e: and young slow defenseman, hi Olli!) Hopefully they'll think Dan Bylsma is still coaching the Penguins and play Chris Neil 10 minutes a game though
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May 11, 2017 21:52
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I am definitely not looking past the Sens BUT the Penguins have never reached the SCF and then not made a second trip the year after, so it's basically destiny at this point
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May 11, 2017 21:59
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Fleury should absolutely force a buy out if Pittsburgh wants him to waive his nmc. He gets that buyout money and can more than likely get a 4-5 year deal at 5ish a year after this playoffs. He won't get a contract anywhere near that if he goes to Vegas and signs a new deal in two years. Does Pittsburgh have a goalie to expose if they buy out Fleury?
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May 11, 2017 21:59
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DJExile posted:Fleury has 0 reason to go to Vegas What if they draft him?
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https://twitter.com/ian_mendes/status/862695028354887680
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iospace posted:What if they draft him? no move clause
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JohnnyCanuck posted:The Sens have really good possession and are also good at winning faceoffs. Also, and I keep telling you this, the Sens are actually really good. They were 22nd in CF and had a negative goal differential so I'm not really seeing this. Karlsson is amazing though and they're playing well right now at least which in the playoffs is all that tends to matter.
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May 11, 2017 22:43
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I wonder what would happen with the expansion draft if the Penguins traded Murray and kept Fleury, leaving them with no goalies to expose. Would the league block the trade?
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sedative posted:I wonder what would happen with the expansion draft if the Penguins traded Murray and kept Fleury, leaving them with no goalies to expose. Would the league block the trade? Do they not have an exposable goalie in the minors? Or are those untouchable? yellowcar fucked around with this message at 22:51 on May 11, 2017 |
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May 11, 2017 22:49
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yellowcar posted:Do they not have an exposable goalie in the minors? Or are those untouchable? They're both exempt according to https://capfriendly.com/expansion-draft Come to think of it, if they trade or buy out Fleury they still won't have anyone left to expose except Murray. I feel like I'm missing something here.
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May 11, 2017 22:55
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yellowcar posted:Do they not have an exposable goalie in the minors? Or are those untouchable? I believe everyone below Murray on the depth chart has been a pro for 2 years or less so they can't be touched.
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sedative posted:They're both exempt according to https://capfriendly.com/expansion-draft Presumably they'd get a goalie back in a Fleury or Murray trade. I imagine the NHL would be against signing a guy just to expose him. e: What you're also missing is this: The Pens could trade Maf to Vegas for free with the caveat that Vegas takes [insert player] instead. They then expose Murray in the draft but Vegas doesn't take him because they agreed to take someone else.
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May 11, 2017 22:58
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Ginette Reno posted:e: What you're also missing is this: The Pens could trade Maf to Vegas for free with the caveat that Vegas takes [insert player] instead. They then expose Murray in the draft but Vegas doesn't take him because they agreed to take someone else. What you're missing is that MAF can and would block that trade. It's not real complicated, the Penguins will have to pay Vegas off with picks and/or young players to not take Murray. And actually depending on the price I might prefer to just let Vegas have Murray because I'm low on Murray's ability to stay healthy and feel pretty comfortable with Jarry as MAF insurance. I'd rather lose Murray than e.g. Bryan Rust.
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May 11, 2017 23:00
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Eric the Mauve posted:What you're missing is that MAF can and would block that trade. Naturally. But if he wants to go somewhere else there's nothing stopping the Penguins from trading him to that team for their backup goalie plus whatever trash pick and then exposing that goalie. If he's okay with going to Vegas it's as simple as him waiving and making a deal around giving him to Vegas so they can get Maf + Hagelin or whoever. e: Also you're out of your damned mind if you're okay with losing Murray over Rust. He is a much much better goalie than Maf.
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Oh right, I forgot they can bribe Vegas. So say they buy out Fleury and expose Murray. McPhee should squeeze some pretty good assets out of the Pens.
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May 11, 2017 23:10
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I mean look at the four goalies who are still left: It's Craig Anderson, Marc-Andre Fleury, Pekka Rinne years past his peak, and John loving Gibson. You don't need a superstar goalie to win the Cup and at no point is anyone ever going to say "holy poo poo the Penguins would have won the Cup in year X if they hadn't let Matt Murray go." MAF is good enough now, and when he collapses in somewhere between 2 days and 2 years from now, Jarry will be good enough too. Now that $5M in cap space they could reclaim by losing MAF, yes, I would dearly love to have that $5M of cap space.
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Speaking of Murray I hope everybody talking about MAF turning into a pumpkin this series realizes he's healthy again - he was backing up Fleury last night. Murray was Sullivan's guy all season when he wasn't hurt so if MAF starts looking shaky I don't think Sullivan will have much of an issue putting Murray out there.
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Eric the Mauve posted:I mean look at the four goalies who are still left: It's Craig Anderson, Marc-Andre Fleury, Pekka Rinne years past his peak, and John loving Gibson. I don't need good tires to drive my car either but that doesn't mean I'm throwing four spares on there
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May 11, 2017 23:14
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I thought that if the Pens were eliminated I would have to hear the thousandth iteration of this discussion since the playoffs last year. Little did I know that it would happen anyway!
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May 11, 2017 23:39
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Preds are 8-5 all time vs the Ducks in the playoffs, including their upset win last year. I am optimistic of their chances in the WCF. In conclusion, gently caress Corey Perry and gently caress the Ducks.
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May 11, 2017 23:41
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Eric the Mauve posted:I also actually think the Senators are pretty good and have a decent chance to win the ECF, particularly because Karlsson may run wild on the Penguins' old slow defensemen (e: and young slow defenseman, hi Olli!) The Senators have a decent chance, but not because they're good.
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Eric the Mauve posted:What you're missing is that MAF can and would block that trade. He's only got a modified NTC. Can a player include Teams That Don't Exist on their do not trade list?
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.Spec posted:He's only got a modified NTC. Can a player include Teams That Don't Exist on their do not trade list? i believe they submit a new list of teams at the start of every league year. by the time MAF has to give his next list, the Creator will have finished his masterpiece
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.Spec posted:He's only got a modified NTC. Can a player include Teams That Don't Exist on their do not trade list? capfriendly lists a no move clause too
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Aye Doc posted:i believe they submit a new list of teams at the start of every league year. by the time MAF has to give his next list, the Creator will have finished his masterpiece Exactly so at the start of the 2016-17 season he had to submit a list of...I want to say 18 teams that he can't be traded to. I feel like that'd be some deep premonintion if penciled in at the bottom was #18: Las Vegas somethingorothers What I'm trying to say is I want him to play out of his mind and get the Pens to another cup then head out to LV to finish out his days thanks to some expansion team contract jiu jitsu.
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May 12, 2017 01:03
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American TV ratings are up 7% through round 2
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Eric the Mauve posted:I mean look at the four goalies who are still left: It's Craig Anderson, Marc-Andre Fleury, Pekka Rinne years past his peak, and John loving Gibson. Doesn't really change your point but Anderson is older than Rinne and Fleury is only 2 years younger.
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personally i think it's really awesome and funny that all the vezina finalists + probable 4th place finisher dubnyk were all outed in the first or second round while making GBS threads the bed or receiving an embarassingly bad amount of goal support.
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MAF lists 18 teams he can be traded to, and it is pretty easy to look down this list and see 18 teams who are already set on their starting goalie, due to performance, no-trade clauses, and cap hits. He can easily block a trade if he wants. https://capfriendly.com/browse/active/2017/caphit/all/goalies
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May 12, 2017 05:27
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You know what I think Vegas needs? An Ovechkin.
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Flyinglemur posted:You know what I think Vegas needs? An Ovechkin. Washington should just trade their entire team to Vegas for full rights to do the expansion draft themselves. Full nuclear.
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May 12, 2017 13:21
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Duckman2008 posted:Washington should just trade their entire team to Vegas for full rights to do the expansion draft themselves. Full nuclear. Vegas would then win the Cup next year and the meltdowns in DC would be hysterical
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spanky69 posted:Vegas would then win the Cup next year and the meltdowns in DC would be hysterical
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