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hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Vox Nihili posted:

can someone explain why the tories are still popular despite the extreme brexit death thats about to take place under their watch?

just not enough economic collapse yet or what?

Shambolic opposition, opposition even less popular.

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jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Vox Nihili posted:

can someone explain why the tories are still popular despite the extreme brexit death thats about to take place under their watch?
1) Tess May has a weird cult of personality platform she more or less stole from Arlene Foster's last DUP campaign where they somehow won the NI election despite bankrupting the assembly for a generation.
2) Everyone has caved on Brexit and they started it so they seem dynamic rather than terrifyingly dangerous if you're into that kind of thing.
3) Labour has not been an articulate + effective opposition since the end of their time in government.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

It's because English people love death.

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

We
death by a million tariffs

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese
British people fundamentally want to be punished by their well bred betters, especially if there is a chance of screwing over johnny foreigner

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Concerned Citizen posted:

labour's base was overwhelmingly for remain. the difference between bernie and corbyn is that corbyn is only 1 point more popular than donald trump, and widely disliked by his own party. so i think maybe corbyn might be the one who isn't really anywhere near his base

*Concerned Shitizen doing math*

Brexit wins by 51.89 to 48.1%

Brexit is very popular

but not with Corbyn's base

Corbyn wins by %59.5 and again %61.8 of his base so he is widely disliked

:downs:

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

not wrong, or is this wrong as well?? paradox

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

would be ironic if the uk died from a sudden influx of tariffs

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

public poorly informed, fascist

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 232 days!
Remember when Napoleon tried to destroy Britain by creating a "continental system" of trade which locked it out of trade with mainland Europe?

The British public is like "hold my beer." Except with no empire this time around.

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
This is what happens when tabloids run the nation

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
I hope brexit really, really hurts

The worse it is, the better

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Top City Homo posted:

*Concerned Shitizen doing math*

Brexit wins by 51.89 to 48.1%

Brexit is very popular

but not with Corbyn's base

Corbyn wins by %59.5 and again %61.8 of his base so he is widely disliked

:downs:
Jeremy Corbyn won the second election because the way the PLP tried to stab him in the back while the Tories melted down completely was so stupid + ill timed he got a lot of support from people who were otherwise increasingly skeptical about him imo.

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

rudatron posted:

I hope brexit really, really hurts

The worse it is, the better

doomsday except all of Britain

what I'm trying to say is build a wall

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cqRe3xyUFA

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

rudatron posted:

I hope brexit really, really hurts

The worse it is, the better

That's pretty much how I feel about it. The brits all deserve it, they voted for it. And it was a betrayal of the US and all their other allies.

Im also pretty sure trump wouldn't be president if the brexit had gone the other way, so I blame them for all America's problems too.

One of the many many reasons that Macron's triumphant victory is so cool is that as a finance pro he's going to put the screws to britain's financial industry which will wound their country badly.

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 232 days!

hakimashou posted:

That's pretty much how I feel about it. The brits all deserve it, they voted for it. And it was a betrayal of the US and all their other allies.

Im also pretty sure trump wouldn't be president if the brexit had gone the other way, so I blame them for all America's problems too.

One of the many many reasons that Macron's triumphant victory is so cool is that as a finance pro he's going to put the screws to britain's financial industry which will wound their country badly.

nothing bad ever came of this line of thinking

also lol if you think america cared about brexit

ironically donald 'mr. brexit' trump probably cared more about it than his entire turnout combined

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Hodgepodge posted:

nothing bad ever came of this line of thinking

also lol if you think america cared about brexit

ironically donald 'mr. brexit' trump probably cared more about it than his entire turnout combined

It tore a hole in the sanity of the world.

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

It's because English people love death.
the british empire was nothing if not a well-oiled machine that ran on the blood of "savages," in due time the british turned it on themselves

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Hodgepodge posted:

ironically donald 'mr. brexit' trump probably cared more about it than his entire turnout combined

It's "Mr. Brexit + + +" :smugdon:

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

jBrereton posted:

I'm sure every fucker and their mum approached MPs about a challenge with the hope that word would get around and the press would back them as the Smiling Assassin Of The Mad Trot Corbyn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX1CEL3Nwwo

Back in '45 they marched, from barrack room and mill
Determined they would make a change, for they had had their fill
From the kitchen sink and coal they came, every Labour man and dame
And shortly we'll be doing the same and we'll have a May Day then

Our faithers fought this fight before, and thought that they had won
You should have seen the boss turn green and how the man could run
But when our faithers turned their backs, the boss came again to dodge his tax
But the next time we'll no be so lax and we'll have a May Day then

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Baloogan posted:

hey he found a job he is qualified for

genuine :lol:

dont be mean to me
May 2, 2007

I'm interplanetary, bitch
Let's go to Mars


Baloogan posted:

hey he found a job he is qualified for

someone tell him that only worked for john cusack because he was in a john cusack movie

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

jBrereton posted:

Jeremy Corbyn won the second election because the way the PLP tried to stab him in the back while the Tories melted down completely was so stupid + ill timed he got a lot of support from people who were otherwise increasingly skeptical about him imo.

I say this every night, every day, every afternoon and it's so true

Blairites are a mess

Blairites are a waste

Blairites are big fat mistakes

lorn Wayne
Jan 7, 2006

:staredog::meowth::pipe:
hmm my expert consultant assessment is try and push that rubber knife in yet again, i think it'll work this time

*bills labour for 400k*

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese
I'm always amused by people trying to portray Corbyn as some kind of master Trotskyist revolutionary at the head of the personality cult because blairites can't accept that the reason he keeps beating them is because they loving suck and no-one likes them

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

MikeCrotch posted:

I'm always amused by people trying to portray Corbyn as some kind of master Trotskyist revolutionary at the head of the personality cult because blairites can't accept that the reason he keeps beating them is because they loving suck and no-one likes them

how did you guys run out of smart and competent leftists
like everyone in british politics not named Nicola Sturgeon (:swoon:) seems really dumb.

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

We

Lawman 0 posted:

how did you guys run out of smart and competent leftists
like everyone in british politics not named Nicola Sturgeon (:swoon:) seems really dumb.

the lost story of how her ancestors got that last name must be incredible

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Lawman 0 posted:

how did you guys run out of smart and competent leftists
There were never very many (same goes for smart and competent members of the right wing fwiw).

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Top City Homo posted:

*Concerned Shitizen doing math*

Brexit wins by 51.89 to 48.1%

Brexit is very popular

but not with Corbyn's base

Corbyn wins by %59.5 and again %61.8 of his base so he is widely disliked

:downs:

corbyn got 313k votes in 2016. 9.3 million people voted for labour in 2015. the relevance of the leadership election to actual popularity in the party is pretty much zero.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

https://twitter.com/lukewsavage/status/863114009851158528

Bear Retrieval Unit
Nov 5, 2009

Mudslide Experiment

Now that's worth caring into a stone.

and for reference:
https://twitter.com/getinthesea/status/764394864654123008

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

"threat to kill" is my favorite ac/dc song

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
One of the rhetorical tricks that corbynistas think is clever is to claim he's popular and a winner because he won the leadership elections.

They forget or willfully ignore that it isnt the Party Members who count, but the general public.

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

hakimashou posted:

One of the rhetorical tricks that corbynistas think is clever is to claim he's popular and a winner because he won the leadership elections.

They forget or willfully ignore that it isnt the Party Members who count, but the general public.

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 232 days!

i'm confused, this sounds awesome

dont be mean to me
May 2, 2007

I'm interplanetary, bitch
Let's go to Mars



:yossame:

If only this was the future liberals wanted.

Well... a few of the paleoliberals might be all right with it.

lorn Wayne
Jan 7, 2006

:staredog::meowth::pipe:

hmm.


what kind of jam, this is crucial.

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exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
https://twitter.com/TelePolitics/status/863099597299765248

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