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Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Nah, she's not a literal billionaire.

And she got more votes than Trump did, so that means she was probably more in-touch anyway. Which is amazing, because how the hell do you get to be more out-of-touch than Hillary Clinton?

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Spunky Psycho Ho
Jan 26, 2007

by zen death robot

Majorian posted:

Nah, she's not a literal billionaire.

And she got more votes than Trump did, so that means she was probably more in-touch anyway. Which is amazing, because how the hell do you get to be more out-of-touch than Hillary Clinton?

Oh, millionaires who got it through graft are less evil than billionaires. Got it.

You get more out of touch than Hillary by consuming an endless stream of corporate funded media.

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

Oh, millionaires who got it through graft are less evil than billionaires. Got it.

You get more out of touch than Hillary by consuming an endless stream of corporate funded media.

Would you say Hillary is worth more for humanity than you because she is wealthier than you?

Over There
Jun 28, 2013

by Azathoth
lol trump's fine

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

Oh, millionaires who got it through graft are less evil than billionaires. Got it.

LOL you think Trump didn't get his money through graft.

Look at this. Look at how dumb you are.

a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

Majorian posted:

Nah, she's not a literal billionaire.

And she got more votes than Trump did, so that means she was probably more in-touch anyway. Which is amazing, because how the hell do you get to be more out-of-touch than Hillary Clinton?

cancelling the TPP and cracking down on H1B visa abuse did more for workers than anything Hillary would have done, I mean you're arguing for a democrat who doesn't believe in single-payer healthcare or a $15 minimum wage and saying she's more in touch. A woman that American voters were so disgusted with that they voted for donald loving Trump

This is why no, you're not in touch at all.

Spunky Psycho Ho
Jan 26, 2007

by zen death robot

Majorian posted:

LOL you think Trump didn't get his money through graft.

Look at this. Look at how dumb you are.

"Graft, as understood in American English, is a form of political corruption, being the unscrupulous use of a politician's authority for personal gain"

Pray tell, when was Trump a politician?

Scary!
Oct 22, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

"Graft, as understood in American English, is a form of political corruption, being the unscrupulous use of a politician's authority for personal gain"

Pray tell, when was Trump a politician?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/president-trump

Not sure if you heard

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

"Graft, as understood in American English, is a form of political corruption, being the unscrupulous use of a politician's authority for personal gain"

Pray tell, when was Trump a politician?

:rolleyes: Look at those goalposts a-movin'.


a bone to pick posted:

cancelling the TPP

This would have happened under Clinton. A Republican-held Senate would not have passed it, especially when a lot of Dem senators were against it too.

quote:

and cracking down on H1B visa abuse

Oh hey, a thing that mainly affected high-wage earners in the tech sector.

Yes indeedy, clearly you're the one who's in-touch with the workers of America.

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

"Graft, as understood in American English, is a form of political corruption, being the unscrupulous use of a politician's authority for personal gain"

Pray tell, when was Trump a politician?

I think inheritance, fraud and taking advantage of rich-friendly bankruptcy laws is a more accurate way of explaining trumps wealth.

Spunky Psycho Ho
Jan 26, 2007

by zen death robot

Panzeh posted:

I think inheritance, fraud and taking advantage of rich-friendly bankruptcy laws is a more accurate way of explaining trumps wealth.

A more complex way to say Majoran was wrong, again. As is the natural order of things

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

A more complex way to say Majoran was wrong, again. As is the natural order of things

Mmmm yes indeed, Trump being a mobbed-up billionaire who made his money through inheritance, fraud, and corruption is so much nobler than how Clinton made her millions.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG
Quoting dictionary, man what a brutal own :banjo:

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Flesh Forge posted:

Quoting dictionary, man what a brutal own :banjo:

Right? I don't know how I'll ever recover.

Spunky Psycho Ho
Jan 26, 2007

by zen death robot

Majorian posted:

Mmmm yes indeed, Trump being a mobbed-up billionaire who made his money through inheritance, fraud, and corruption is so much nobler than how Clinton made her millions.

Skimming money from poverty stricken peasants through the guise of charity while taking bribes from Qatar and Saudi Arabia.

That is actually worse, yes.

a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

Majorian posted:

Oh hey, a thing that mainly affected high-wage earners in the tech sector.

Entry-level tech positions being eaten up by H1B and outsourced workers that will do the work for less doesn't not constitute as "high-wage earners" lol.

You are just like the republicans who were crying after Romney lost saying he would have been better.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

Skimming money from poverty stricken peasants through the guise of charity while taking bribes from Qatar and Saudi Arabia.

Hahaha, you think Trump doesn't do poo poo like this constantly?

How dumb are you? Seriously, you are very, very dumb, if you think Trump isn't guilty of exactly the same poo poo, on a greater scale.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

a bone to pick posted:

Entry-level tech positions being eaten up by H1B and outsourced workers that will do the work for less doesn't not constitute as "high-wage earners" lol.

They're also not what people are talking about when they cite the plight of the workers in America.:ssh:

But in the meantime, hey, Trump really is showing his colors on worker's rights now that he's in office!

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"

a bone to pick posted:

Entry-level tech positions being eaten up by H1B and outsourced workers that will do the work for less doesn't not constitute as "high-wage earners" lol.

You are just like the republicans who were crying after Romney lost saying he would have been better.

You know trumps going to look to gently caress over the protections of American workers, right?

Spunky Psycho Ho
Jan 26, 2007

by zen death robot

Majorian posted:

Hahaha, you think Trump doesn't do poo poo like this constantly?

How dumb are you? Seriously, you are very, very dumb, if you think Trump isn't guilty of exactly the same poo poo, on a greater scale.

How would Trump constantly be ripping off poverty stricken countries

He's not.

a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

Panzeh posted:

You know trumps going to look to gently caress over the protections of American workers, right?

I don't want to defend Trump, I'm not a fan and he's a fraud, but whenever someone starts praising Hillary while saying they're in touch with the average american I start seizing.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

a bone to pick posted:

A woman that American voters were so disgusted with that they voted for donald loving Trump
Hillary got three million more votes

Mnoba
Jun 24, 2010

Majorian posted:

Hahaha, you think Trump doesn't do poo poo like this constantly?

How dumb are you? Seriously, you are very, very dumb, if you think Trump isn't guilty of exactly the same poo poo, on a greater scale.

an elected official selling out her country is much worse, sorry man you are never getting your 10 bux back no matter how many names you call people in this thread

Spunky Psycho Ho
Jan 26, 2007

by zen death robot

Mnoba posted:

an elected official selling out her country is much worse, sorry man you are never getting your 10 bux back no matter how many names you call people in this thread

I don't see how people can't grasp that Hillary makes Trump look like a petty thief. Her crimes were on an international scale involving the most powerful forces on Earth. Trump made bad ties and board games

a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

Hillary got three million more votes

and millions more stayed home because they didn't want to vote for her

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

a bone to pick posted:

I don't want to defend Trump, I'm not a fan and he's a fraud, but whenever someone starts praising Hillary while saying they're in touch with the average american I start seizing.

Pretty sure I've only said bad things about Hillary in this thread. The best poo poo I've said is that she's marginally less-bad than Trump.


Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

How would Trump constantly be ripping off poverty stricken countries

Dude has horrible buildings all over the world, massive deals with the Saudis and other horrible countries, etc. He's probably the most-pro-Israel president we've ever had. His foundation is a total sham. Dude's way more corrupt.

Skypie
Sep 28, 2008

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

Skimming money from poverty stricken peasants through the guise of charity while taking bribes from Qatar and Saudi Arabia.

That is actually worse, yes.

Hm yes Trump's charities and business deals have always been on the up and up.

a bone to pick posted:

Entry-level tech positions being eaten up by H1B and outsourced workers that will do the work for less doesn't not constitute as "high-wage earners" lol.

You are just like the republicans who were crying after Romney lost saying he would have been better.

I haven't really kept up on the H1B thing, but my understanding was that just changing the salary requirements or altering job requirements wouldn't actually change much? I know critics have said for a long time the program is unnecessary based on tech degrees earned by Americans and that linking them to a specific company is problematic because it makes it easy for a company to abuse a worker.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
Trump is a mobster who talks like a mobster and made his money in New York real estate + golf courses + casino gambling which is like the mob trifecta and then took it international + Russian mafia

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Mnoba posted:

an elected official selling out her country

"Selling out her country" meaning...?

Spunky Psycho Ho
Jan 26, 2007

by zen death robot

Majorian posted:

Pretty sure I've only said bad things about Hillary in this thread. The best poo poo I've said is that she's marginally less-bad than Trump.

She's not. She's worse.

Trump may be worse than her in the end, but as it stands, she's worse.

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

I don't see how people can't grasp that Hillary makes Trump look like a petty thief. Her crimes were on an international scale involving the most powerful forces on Earth. Trump made bad ties and board games

Well, now you get to watch trump do the same poo poo, lol.

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014
For Trump so loved the workers of America, he told them they should be paid less, work more, longer hours and not have healthcare

Skypie
Sep 28, 2008
I like reading unironic conspiracy theory posts

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

She's not. She's worse.

Trump may be worse than her in the end, but as it stands, she's worse.

Nope, Trump's record as a businessman is a textbook case of corruption. Dude has hosed over a lot of people, and now he's loving over even more.

Fuck da Mods
Jun 27, 2013

fina get poz'd? :cabot: :gizz: :baby:
trump is a putin cuck

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
Trump = mobster is obvious just from the way he speaks, which is not how he always spoke (when he was younger), as he picked it up through osmosis by being the "legitimate" face for various organized crime interests, mainly money laundering through high-end real estate. It is simply not possible to be where he is and have been in the business he was without being connected to gangsters.

the funny thing is I suspect this has a resonance with a lot of Americans who identify with roguish crooks hence the popularity of The Sopranos, Goodfellas, Scarface, etc.

Spunky Psycho Ho
Jan 26, 2007

by zen death robot

Majorian posted:

Nope, Trump's record as a businessman is a textbook case of corruption. Dude has hosed over a lot of people, and now he's loving over even more.

Why because he's deporting the workforce of illegals you use to garden while sipping wine on your veranda lmao

Mnoba
Jun 24, 2010

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

Why because he's deporting the workforce of illegals you use to garden while sipping wine on your veranda lmao

lmao majorian is pissed because immigration is down 70% and his slave labor force has evaporated, looks like your favorite merlot is going up 1.50 a bottle majorian!

Spunky Psycho Ho
Jan 26, 2007

by zen death robot
Napa Valley goons represent - "I'm in touch with the common man"

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Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

Why because he's deporting the workforce of illegals you use to garden while sipping wine on your veranda lmao

Nah trumps idea is to gently caress over the labor laws enough so that american workers can enjoy that kind of misery and get paid peanuts for it.

All this so some billionaires can make more profit.

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