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https://twitter.com/IneffectiveMath/status/863600213356945408 Erik Karlsson: good and fun Jordan7hm fucked around with this message at 17:13 on May 14, 2017 |
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May 14, 2017 17:09
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Jordan7hm posted:https://twitter.com/IneffectiveMath/status/863600213356945408 Counterpoint, that says he is lukewarm and fun.
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May 14, 2017 17:22
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Fine fine. Good-ish and fun.
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May 14, 2017 17:25
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We're inching closer and closer to the Preds vs. Sens Cup final the entire NHL deserves.
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May 14, 2017 18:13
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Siroc posted:We're inching closer and closer to the Preds vs. Sens Cup final the entire NHL deserves. Gary Bettman needs to get ahold of hitbox.com's number so we can watch the NHL playoffs when they get punted down to NBC Universal and then gets preempted by hour 2 of the Mecum Auto Auctions.
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May 14, 2017 18:18
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Maatta gets slower and slower the more I watch that replay 
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May 14, 2017 18:23
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Does anyone else remember a very popular Penguins pylon moment? Congratulations Montreal on your new D Man, Ole' Ole' Ole' Ole', Ole' Ollie!
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May 14, 2017 18:26
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It's pretty incredible how bad the Pens are at puck possession without Letang. Like to the point of getting out shot by the Ottawa Senators.Captain Internet posted:Does anyone else remember a very popular Penguins pylon moment? Congratulations Montreal on your new D Man, Ole' Ole' Ole' Ole', Ole' Ollie! That play sucked poo poo but you know he's been our best defender and our GF when he's on the ice is through the roof throughout his career. He's a good player who has a terrible flaw so people look at that and forget all the other times where he's making a good pass or breaking up a play with a good stick. Basically he's pretty good even though he looks really bad when his flaw gets exposed. Ginette Reno fucked around with this message at 18:44 on May 14, 2017 |
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May 14, 2017 18:34
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It's only super disappointing when you look at his first two seasons and see him recognize lapses in coverage, skate hard and go bar down while being fast enough to get back if the play broke bad. Ollie's biggest enemy is younger Ollie. It's even worse because it was such a short time and he's such a different player so very quickly. Like, it wasn't a gentle rolling decline, it was like a sheer mesa. I know the tumor and injuries but I was hopeful he'd get his wheels back eventually. Also, saying Ollie is the Pen's best defensemen is more an indictment of their D than a compliment to him. It's also super weird how they had not at all adapted to the fact that they only have one fast and and dynamic D-Man. I think the line combos for practice are employing the spread poo poo very thinly across all layers strategy instead of the stack poo poo into a pile in the corner method. Cole-Ruhwedel Maatta-Schultz Dumoulin-Hainsey Streit-Pouliot Maybe it will work out?
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May 14, 2017 19:30
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Hainsey is way worse than Matta.
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May 14, 2017 20:02
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What's the Matta, Olle? What's the Matta with you?
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May 14, 2017 20:04
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Ginette Reno posted:That play sucked poo poo but you know he's been our best defender and our GF when he's on the ice is through the roof throughout his career. He's a good player who has a terrible flaw so people look at that and forget all the other times where he's making a good pass or breaking up a play with a good stick. I don't agree wth this at all. His career numbers are inflated by mostly playing with Letang. He looked legitimately good in his first couple years, but he doesn't look good anymore, and not just because he's turned into a sloth. His positioning isn't particularly good, he's weak on the puck, and he makes bad passes left and right. This playoffs, he's been in a pretty tight race for Worst D with Hainsey and Daley IMO. Like, Ian Cole is way better than him now. And Cole is not very good
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May 14, 2017 21:05
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Can Olli wear rocket skates
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May 14, 2017 21:05
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If the Penguins left Maatta exposed, would Vegas take him?
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May 14, 2017 21:22
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Eric the Mauve posted:If the Penguins left Maatta exposed, would Vegas take him?
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May 14, 2017 21:25
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IIRC, Maata played a ton with Matt Niskanen his rookie year and Niskanen turned out to be a lot better than most people thought at the time
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May 14, 2017 21:29
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Eric the Mauve posted:If the Penguins left Maatta exposed, would Vegas take him? Vegas is taking a goalie from Pittsburgh one way or another.
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May 14, 2017 22:13
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Godinster posted:Vegas is taking a goalie from Pittsburgh one way or another. I have a feeling they have something worked out to have Vegas take Maf.
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May 14, 2017 22:15
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Why would Fleury do that?
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May 14, 2017 22:16
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sens in 4
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May 14, 2017 22:17
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:Why would Fleury do that? Because he's going somewhere regardless and the alternative is having him bought out and having to face the uncertainty of free agency where there's no guarantee a team will offer him the starting job.
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May 14, 2017 22:19
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Ginette Reno posted:Because he's going somewhere regardless and the alternative is having him bought out and having to face the uncertainty of free agency where there's no guarantee a team will offer him the starting job.
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May 14, 2017 22:24
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If Fleury's choice is Vegas or free agency, why would he not want the buyout money plus the 5 year deal that Calgary or whoever would give him. Look at the deals Bishop and Darling just signed.
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May 14, 2017 22:26
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If the Pens buy out Fleury, I really hope he signs with the Flyers. That would be amazing.
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May 14, 2017 22:30
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:If Fleury's choice is Vegas or free agency, why would he not want the buyout money plus the 5 year deal that Calgary or whoever would give him. Look at the deals Bishop and Darling just signed. Because he's Crosby's buddy and doesn't want to screw the Penguins 
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May 14, 2017 22:49
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we shall see *cackles*
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May 14, 2017 22:56
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i still want to see sully try dressing 7D for the pens, shelter them a bit more. i think they could make do with 11F
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May 14, 2017 23:32
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Fleury would leave so he can be the starting goalie. If ownership wants Fleury to leave and he refuses, expect to see him get less than 15-20 games in the entire next season. They'll bring Jarry up to play and give Murray the lion's share. There are a million ways you can make someone's life unpleasant. I really hope that's now how Fleury ends his Pittsburgh career though.
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May 15, 2017 01:16
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May 15, 2017 01:18
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Benson Cunningham posted:Fleury would leave so he can be the starting goalie. If ownership wants Fleury to leave and he refuses, expect to see him get less than 15-20 games in the entire next season. They'll bring Jarry up to play and give Murray the lion's share. If Fleury doesn't cooperate on leaving and the pens don't buy him out they are going to lose Murray to Las Vegas - if that happens I don't see the Pens benching Fleury in favor of anyone else.
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May 15, 2017 01:20
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:IIRC, Maata played a ton with Matt Niskanen his rookie year and Niskanen turned out to be a lot better than most people thought at the time Karl Alzner is going to make $25 million+ this offseason off the back of Matt Niskanen. It's pretty amazing how bad Alzner was away from Niskanen and how good Niskanen was away from Alzner. Not really shocked he made Maatta look good in hindsight.
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May 15, 2017 01:22
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JawKnee posted:If Fleury doesn't cooperate on leaving and the pens don't buy him out they are going to lose Murray to Las Vegas - if that happens I don't see the Pens benching Fleury in favor of anyone else. They will not. They will make a deal with Vegas before losing Murray. I very much doubt it will get to that, though. TOXX: If Murray goes to Vegas, I will update my avatar to some sort of animated Fleury Vegas Knight thing that mentions how wrong I was.
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May 15, 2017 01:28
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JawKnee posted:If Fleury doesn't cooperate on leaving and the pens don't buy him out they are going to lose Murray to Las Vegas - if that happens I don't see the Pens benching Fleury in favor of anyone else. Unless they make a deal with Vegas to not take Murray/take Murray and then trade him right back to the Penguins for e.g. Hagelin and a 1st. e:f;b
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May 15, 2017 01:29
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It's in Fleury's best financial interest, I think, to choose a list of teams that he knows won't/can't take him, and try and stay in Pittsburgh; if they buy him out he'll likely make a bunch more money on another team through free agency, if they don't he gets to stay on the team he knows. I don't see LV making a deal if Murray is available - he's a damned good, young goalie that just won the cup, it would have to be a hell of a deal.
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May 15, 2017 01:36
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JawKnee posted:It's in Fleury's best financial interest, I think, to choose a list of teams that he knows won't/can't take him, and try and stay in Pittsburgh; if they buy him out he'll likely make a bunch more money on another team through free agency, if they don't he gets to stay on the team he knows. I don't see LV making a deal if Murray is available - he's a damned good, young goalie that just won the cup, it would have to be a hell of a deal. I honestly think he'd rather play 50+ games a year than get a few extra million dollars. And since I think the Penguins will do what is necessary to keep Murray, it won't be in Pittsburgh that he plays those games. Injuries not withstanding.
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May 15, 2017 01:55
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https://twitter.com/CoryCurtis2/status/863904269245788161
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May 15, 2017 02:08
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Mind_Taker posted:Karl Alzner is going to make $25 million+ this offseason off the back of Matt Niskanen. It's pretty amazing how bad Alzner was away from Niskanen and how good Niskanen was away from Alzner. Not really shocked he made Maatta look good in hindsight. Sucked to lose Nisky because he's actually affordable now and would be a good fit.
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May 15, 2017 02:24
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What kind of person am I for thinking that was a hosed-up banana at first
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May 15, 2017 02:25
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I just want to know where they hid it to get it into the arena.
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May 15, 2017 02:51
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Benson Cunningham posted:I honestly think he'd rather play 50+ games a year than get a few extra million dollars. And since I think the Penguins will do what is necessary to keep Murray, it won't be in Pittsburgh that he plays those games. Injuries not withstanding. It's probably more like an extra 15 million.
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