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Yooper posted:
So, we have potential targets that will blow the bridge if they see us coming, and a line to some folks with stealth aircraft...hmmm. I hope we're not handing over Angola from one dictator to another...you better stay on the straight and narrow, Joboco, or we're coming back! Oh, and they'd better build a nice big statue of Rohan & Silent Bob, they owe them that much. Yvonmukluk fucked around with this message at 19:12 on May 14, 2017 |
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Yvonmukluk posted:So, we have potential targets that will blow the bridge if they see us coming, and a line to some folks with stealth aircraft...hmmm. I try to get paid preferably in advance ideally to an offshore account, that's why I choose my customers so carefully. Say what you like about warlords and dictators, they tend to have a highly developed sense of order. They always pay their bills on time.
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# ? May 14, 2017 19:21 |
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Yooper posted:Command Post locations will be known, as will bridges. Holy poo poo this is a no-brainer. Let's offer the Bulgarians free passage and a little money to sweeten the deal, maybe ask von Hoff if he'd be willing to additionally throw them a cushy contract to train his guys post-war just to make the deal a little sexier, they have got to be looking for a low-risk way to make cash to rebuild after the beating they took. This could all but guarantee our victory for absolutely trivial risk and effort on our side. aphid_licker fucked around with this message at 19:27 on May 14, 2017 |
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aphid_licker posted:Holy poo poo this is a no-brainer. Let's offer the Bulgarians free passage and a little money to sweeten the deal, maybe ask von Hoff if he'd be willing to additionally throw them a cushy contract to train his guys post-war just to make the deal a little sexier, they have got to be looking for a low-risk way to make cash to rebuild after the beating they took. This could all but guarantee our victory for absolutely trivial risk and effort on our side. Yeah, Im totally down for getting them to change flags / let our troops through. They get a x year contract with the new regime, and we get our win.
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# ? May 14, 2017 19:28 |
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Yeah, letting the Bulgarians peacefully withdraw through Von Hoff's territory would be cool. Assuming we can trust them not to just raise trouble once they're behind our lines.
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Galaga Galaxian posted:Yeah, letting the Bulgarians peacefully withdraw through Von Hoff's territory would be cool. Assuming we can trust them not to just raise trouble once they're behind our lines. "We are marching north. You march south. We won't fire unless you do. If you don't fire, theres a cushy x year contract waiting for you."
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# ? May 14, 2017 19:31 |
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Yep, also fully on board with letting the Bulgarians out. They make sure those bridges stay intact and don't shoot at us, they're more than welcome to a little payout and a job with Hoff or whatever else their little hearts desire.
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# ? May 14, 2017 19:35 |
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Yes, converting those Bulgarians would safe us a lot of trouble down the line. And give the count some poeple who can train the next generation Angolan Army.
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# ? May 14, 2017 19:40 |
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Even so, all plans we make should assume that the Bulgarians do not defect--or if they do, that their positions will be taken over by the Dictator's former SAM operators who might not be able to fight, but can still press a button to blow the bridges.
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# ? May 14, 2017 19:43 |
Is the Count inclined to be a benevolent transitional ruler, a benevolent dictator, or a dictator?
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# ? May 14, 2017 20:03 |
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Calling it, F22s are going to get hacked by China and be the boss of this campaign.
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# ? May 14, 2017 20:05 |
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IIRC von Hoff has told us he isn't personally interested in leading the new government, he just wants the country in the hands of the people. Also I'm glad my choice of using those Ace Combat 3 drone F-22s was vindicated.
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# ? May 14, 2017 20:05 |
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Operation: Fiery Revenge Objectives: Dictator Forces: 1) Smash opposing ground forces to allow our ground units to advance on the capital. 2) Eliminate enemy operating bases to cause confusion and interference among enemy command structure. 3) Eliminate any remaining aerial assets. 4) Destroy enemy radar station to restrict enemy electronic ability. Free State Forces: 1) Achieve air superiority to ensure protection of friendly ground forces. 2) Neutralise enemy radar station to hamper enemy electronic ability. 3) Destroy enemy ground forces advancing westwards to ensure friendly forces take control of the capital. Neutral Party Forces: 1) Do not engage any neutral party forces unless fired upon. Battle Map: Battle Plan: Solid Blue Unit: 2 x 2 flights of Gripens armed with SDB loadout. Their objective is to destroy the enemy unit facing our friendly ground units and destroy the enemy forward operating base. 2 x 1 flights of Mirages equipped with R.550 loadout. Provide air to air cover for the ground attack Gripens. Red Unit: 1 x 2 flight of Saudi Tornados armed with AGM-88B HARM loadout. Their objective is to destroy the Dictator's radar facility Orange Unit: 1 x 2 flight of Gripens armed with SDB loadout. Their objective is to destroy the enemy AA defenses protecting the Dictator's eastern flank. 1 x 2 flight of AMXs armed with Sidewinder loadout. Provide air to air cover for the ground attack Gripens. Pink Unit: 1 x 2 flight of Tornados armed with AGM-88B HARM loadout. Their objective is to destroy the Free State radar facility. White Unit: 1 x Reaper with Gorgon Stare. Slowly advance northwards as required to recon enemy forces. Black Unit: 1 x 1 flight of SU-25 Frogfoot armed with ZAB-500 Incendiary Bombs in the long range configuration. Burn Free State infantry forces. 1 x 6 flight of F4 Phantoms armed with Mk20 Rockeye II bombs. Cluster strike Free State infantry forces. Dotted Blue Unit: (Note: This flight consists of the ground attack Gripens after they have made their initial attack and have RTB and rearmed) 2 x 2 flights of Gripens armed with SDB loadout. Their objective is to destroy the enemy units guarding the approach to the capital. If necessary engage enemy air defenses to ensure survival. Yellow Circle Unit: 2 x 2 flights of Gripens armed with Meteor loadout. Provide Close Air Protection for other missions/ground troops. Eliminate enemy aerial forces. Green Circle Unit: 1 x 1 flight of Tanker. Refuel CAP and other planes as needed. 1 x 1 flight of Saab 100B. Provide EWACS. 1 x 5 flight of SK60 with gunpods. Provide CAP for tanker/EWACS. In reality get the enemy fighters to shoot you down not the important stuff if they get through the real CAP. Flight Take Off Priority: Huambo Airfield: 1) Yellow Circle Unit. 2) Red Unit. 3) Solid Blue Unit: 4) Dotted Blue Unit. 5) Green Circle Unit. Kuito Airfield: 1) Orange Unit. 2) Pink Unit. 3) Black Unit. Rules of Engagement: Dictators Forces: Hostile Engage at will. Free State Forces: Hostile Engage at will. Neutral Forces: Neutral. Fire if fired upon.
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# ? May 14, 2017 20:22 |
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You should probably give a Target Priority list. That way we don't end up attacking every truck depot from here to the capital. Something like: Priority targets include
Radar Enemy Flyers Mission Objectives Secondary targets are as follows:
Infantry Positions Secondary Mission Objectives Targets of Opportunity include:
Truck Depots Airports Tertiary Mission Objectives I am probably missing a lot on that list, but it does prevent the Hired Goons from blowing their load on a truck depot when there is a SAM site in the area they could shoot at instead. Oh, and have we seen anything from the Dictator on Twitter?
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# ? May 14, 2017 20:35 |
So I got a hold of a rep for the Bulgarians in Sofia. They are stuck between a rock and a dictator and really don't want to keep going. But here's the problem. They're broke. Flat broke. So broke they are borrowing diesel fuel from garbage trucks. Not only that but they owe a shitload of money to the Bulgarian Mob. Specifically, this guy. That guy happens to own a handful of lithium freighters. A handful of lithium freighters that he doesn't see much use for once Tesla & Co. come in and six sigma the place. He wants us to blow one up. Empty. In international waters. Without any witnesses. Insurance fraud baby. So, what say you Hired Goons? Do we make a strike into the Atlantic Ocean and help some Bulgarian mobster insurance fraud a bote? In return the Bulgarians will seize the bridges once they see Von Hoff's forces and simply let them pass by.
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# ? May 14, 2017 20:42 |
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Yes yes absolutely a thousand times yes.
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# ? May 14, 2017 20:52 |
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Yooper posted:Without any witnesses. I'm sensing a catch. Let me guess, it's docked with an oil platform.
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# ? May 14, 2017 20:55 |
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So, firing AShM's in the general direction of the Chinese carrier group doesn't seem like the safest thing we could do, but gently caress it I'm game. Guaranteeing that the bridges will be in friendly hands when we get to them is a big plus in and of itself, and hopefully Dos Santos (or his successor, more likely) is planning on us meeting resistance there so when we waltz across it'll gently caress up their plans as an extra bonus.
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# ? May 14, 2017 20:55 |
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Ladies and gentlemen and those who eschew those titles, I think we just found a role for our Sperwer and cargo aircraft (with their terrain radars).
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# ? May 14, 2017 20:57 |
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This seems like such a no brainer.
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# ? May 14, 2017 21:02 |
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Yeah, let's sink that ship. Only good things can come from this.
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# ? May 14, 2017 21:02 |
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If we swing this right, we might even be able to make it into a false flag operation: have our planes or missiles come in from the direction of Luanda and the problem resolves itself. After all, would the rest of the world believe the ravings of an obviously mad dictator?
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# ? May 14, 2017 21:10 |
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I vote no helping criminals could back fire on us at a later date, if knowledge got out that we helped criminals it could tarnish our working reputation. Not to mention we can get around without needing those bridges and other than their word we got no guarantee they will stick by what they said.
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This won't be during the op, but a special "standalone" operation. Yes, there will be a catch. There's always a catch.
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# ? May 14, 2017 21:11 |
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Yooper posted:This won't be during the op, but a special "standalone" operation. Oh. So it's like that radar op from way back when. Hmm, this is harder.
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Davin Valkri posted:Oh. So it's like that radar op from way back when. To clarify this does not count against the last mission and the Chinese arriving. Consider it mission 5.5
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# ? May 14, 2017 21:20 |
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Guys we might reaaally piss of the corps or the UN if we intentionally blow up a civilian cargo ship.
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# ? May 14, 2017 21:22 |
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Galaga Galaxian posted:Guys the free state might reaaally piss of the corps or the UN if they intentionally blow up a civilian cargo ship. ftfy
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# ? May 14, 2017 21:23 |
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Is the catch something we can destroy with Meteors, glide bombs or cruise missiles?
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# ? May 14, 2017 21:24 |
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I hate boats more than I hate bridges. Sink it!
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# ? May 14, 2017 21:26 |
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Using Kfirs as a false-flag to frame the Free State is a really good idea, actually. Now if only we could blow up the bridge in the same mission...
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# ? May 14, 2017 21:28 |
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i mean really, do you think we would fly a kfir with an anime waifu painted on it? look we cant be help responsible for the action of the so called "free" state, clearly they've gone off the deep end. You know, our current contract is about to expire, if y'all need help tracking down their leadership for a trial well im sure we can discuss a good price...
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# ? May 14, 2017 21:31 |
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The Free State did try to take claim for our missiles hitting the capital, so we can just say they did this too!
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# ? May 14, 2017 21:35 |
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Absolutely!
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yurtcradled posted:Is the catch something we can destroy with Meteors, glide bombs or cruise missiles? The catch will be something we can deal with with ordnance onboard. To make it interesting the catch will be random. So even I won't know what's sailing/flying/floating in the mission.
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# ? May 14, 2017 21:36 |
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Yooper, I think you'd better say right now whether you're willing to take any and all of these false flag ops ideas seriously. Give a hard yes or no before we go too far down the rabbit hole in planning this side op.
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# ? May 14, 2017 21:39 |
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Dagon posted:I hate boats more than I hate bridges. Sink it! fraud the bote why is this even a question
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# ? May 14, 2017 21:40 |
Voting yes.
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# ? May 14, 2017 21:40 |
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Do you want adventure Y/N
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# ? May 14, 2017 21:41 |
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I am pro High Seas Insurance Fraud.
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# ? May 14, 2017 21:46 |