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clone on the phone
Aug 5, 2003

I would say 2.5 to 3 times the hull without insurance. An A grade fsd is about 150m alone?

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FronzelNeekburm
Jun 1, 2001

STOP, MORTTIME

Fojar38 posted:

Wait there's a list of people who have made the trip to Sag A? Where is it? I wonder if I'm on it.

There's a check-in thread on the official forums.

One in the Bum
Apr 25, 2014

Hair Elf

Fojar38 posted:

Thanks to the community goal campaign I'm fairly deep into Anaconda range as far as my total credits are concerned. How much money should I have before I start to seriously consider buying one? My current rule is "double the cost of the hull for the sake of upgrades and insurance." Is that too much or too little?

Depending on how you want to outfit it, you can spend more on a power plant than the hull itself. The sale value on my conda is 333M (mostly A rated but D rate thrusters) and the rebuy is roughly 14M. Use coriolis to price out what you want in terms of modules, then figure in a 10% discount because you're going to buy it from a Lui Yong controlled system :grin:. Personally, I won't fly a ship that I don't have at least 5x the insurance rebuy cost in the bank. When I first bought my conda hull it sat in storage for about 2 weeks because I pulled the trigger on buying the hull without enough to outfit it to my liking.

TyroneGoldstein
Mar 30, 2005
Feels good. :unsmith:



Took a month, with detours around 37K LY.

DreadLlama
Jul 15, 2005
Not just for breakfast anymore
Is there a minimum mass you need before lensing becomes apparant?



I wanna see cool black hole poo poo.

edit: http://beta.coriolis.edcd.io/outfit...HMA28QgIwV0A%3D

DreadLlama fucked around with this message at 20:38 on May 14, 2017

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Looking at Coriolis an 8A power plant costs more than the Anaconda itself lmao

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

DreadLlama posted:

Is there a minimum mass you need before lensing becomes apparant?



I wanna see cool black hole poo poo.
Lensing only affects stuff in the background/skybox (rest-of-space-box?). What you seem to have there is a different star in the same system, which won't create the effect.

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

Fojar38 posted:

Looking at Coriolis an 8A power plant costs more than the Anaconda itself lmao

Peep 8A shields and thrusters :homebrew:

(That's how you wind up with a billion credit Cutter)

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



TyroneGoldstein posted:

Feels good. :unsmith:



Took a month, with detours around 37K LY.

I have a post on here somewhere back in 2015 when i reached Sag A* for the first time, and there was a dude there in an Asp and we took a screenshot with Sag A* in the background. It was very much a "Dr. Livingstone, I presume?" moment.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
Scanning missions in Quince are insane, just got 10 million off one run

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...

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peter gabriel posted:

Scanning missions in Quince are insane, just got 10 million off one run

You can still stack them, too. You just have to take two in open, switch to solo, grab two more, switch back to open, grab two more, etc.

As long as you don't grab 3 in one instance, you can stack up to 20!

Phuzun
Jul 4, 2007

Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:

You can still stack them, too. You just have to take two in open, switch to solo, grab two more, switch back to open, grab two more, etc.

As long as you don't grab 3 in one instance, you can stack up to 20!

What? I thought you grab 2 then wait until you get a board with 10+ and get them all. Not that I need any more moneys right now.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:

You can still stack them, too. You just have to take two in open, switch to solo, grab two more, switch back to open, grab two more, etc.

As long as you don't grab 3 in one instance, you can stack up to 20!

I got lucky as I used no scientific methods, the board was just really kind to me, I did about 5 runs in the end tonight but the actual missions freak me out a bit, I'm a better coach driver so I went and did a few passenger runs. I'm going to gently caress it all off soon I think and go do some combat / fun / sightseeing stuff for a bit.

Pilchenstein
May 17, 2012

So your plan is for half of us to die?

Hot Rope Guy

Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:

You can still stack them, too. You just have to take two in open, switch to solo, grab two more, switch back to open, grab two more, etc.

As long as you don't grab 3 in one instance, you can stack up to 20!
I am shocked to learn their fix for mission stacking is entirely half arsed. Weren't they supposed to have done away with board scumming ages ago too?

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...

Pork Pro

I don't know if this is some pubbie we hate or whatever but this is hands down my new favorite Elite video and I am shocked...SHOCKED, I SAY...that no one else is tickled by this.

peter gabriel posted:

I got lucky as I used no scientific methods, the board was just really kind to me, I did about 5 runs in the end tonight but the actual missions freak me out a bit, I'm a better coach driver so I went and did a few passenger runs. I'm going to gently caress it all off soon I think and go do some combat / fun / sightseeing stuff for a bit.


Pilchenstein posted:

I am shocked to learn their fix for mission stacking is entirely half arsed. Weren't they supposed to have done away with board scumming ages ago too?

I have anecdotally heard friends say they didn't even have to instance to avoid the cap: they just filled up 20 missions in open like pre-patch. :shrug:

Hexenritter
May 20, 2001


I thought that video was brilliantly shot and very entertaining.

Vorlonesque
Sep 18, 2005

Killing planets since 1876
So apparently there's an issue where the material reward listed on a mission the first time you view it (or maybe every time I dunno) is wrong because after taking a mission I realized it was giving me different rewards (it was showing cracked industrial firmware and then gave me other poo poo I didn't need and wasn't promised upon mission completion and when I checked the other missions they all had different rewards listed so I dumped all the missions that didn't have cargo and delivered the cargo for the one mission I had that I was carrying said cargo for). Guess I need to run datalink scans (I started doing that and then noticed a couple missions that offered what I wanted...but it was apparently a bug or I'm sure a feature if you ask the official forums).

I also had my first rebuy screen in a long rear end time because I made a stupid mistake with my Asp and flew over a settlement that I'd pissed off after taking fire and they started shooting missiles at me after my shields went down. Lost maybe 600,000cr in exploration data I'd been sitting on to give to an Engineer (had a shitload I gave to Palin to rank up to 5 so I didn't have much left fortunately).

I pour out a bit of my drink of the good ship Tentative Name.

mrmcd
Feb 22, 2003

Pictured: The only good cop (a fictional one).

Another weird glitch I've noticed: Planetary Colony ports, because they only produce biowaste, hydrogen, and scrap, will usually have the mission board generate a bunch of missions to whatever Agricultural stations are close by. If you have a decent size cargo hold you can stack a cool million worth of missions for maybe 4 minutes of flying.

Also leads to hilarious NPC interdictions where they literally try to steal your poo poo.

Overwined
Sep 22, 2008

Wine can of their wits the wise beguile,
Make the sage frolic, and the serious smile.
So about how much Exploration data do you have to sell to get to Friendly with a faction?

Ursine Catastrophe
Nov 9, 2009

It's a lovely morning in the void and you are a horrible lady-in-waiting.



don't ask how i know

Dinosaur Gum

Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:

I don't know if this is some pubbie we hate or whatever but this is hands down my new favorite Elite video and I am shocked...SHOCKED, I SAY...that no one else is tickled by this.

I'm hell of a fan, my sole complaint is the section from about 1:00 to 1:20 or so where it went from "this looks like a legit movie" to "why are they doing this with the camera :nallears:"


any video that can make me forget even momentarily that it's done with fdev's less-than-spectacular in-game camera setup gets a :five: though

El Perkele
Nov 7, 2002

I HAVE SHIT OPINIONS ON STAR WARS MOVIES!!!

I can't even call the right one bad.
Baby starts to build a combat a ship
How to spend time and credits for nothing

I have a trader/courier Python which I have modified extensively. I cruise around in it and have fun. It also kills small and medium ships. I also have a modified Clipper, a lightly modded Courier and a Vulture that has been gathering dust in some remote CG system. Recently I have felt the urge of getting into murder. I want to slaughter and hunt wanted ships and bounty hunt and maybe even get involved in some light PvP asshattery. But what sort of ship should I get - a cheap Viper, a pirate Cobra or something else? I finally decided to grab my Vulture, A-rate it and give it some good weapons.
I fly the Vulture and Courier to Harm and spend a non-insignificant sum of money for respeccing them and the Clipper. Clipper becomes some sort of pirate vessel, Courier seems to become a generalist errand fighter but the Vulture becomes a pure murderboat. With twin Plasma Accelerators. This is a mistake.

The plasma accelerators inflate the Vulture's biggest issue, which is power management. A-rated thrusters alone are a bad thing, but throw a SCB and some boosters on it and the entire thing just shuts down the moment you pull the trigger. It's also suprisingly slow. I take my Clipper, sail to Merope and transfer my annoying boats in there. Then I fly back and forth because stupid rear end Palin and other engineers argh. I give both fighters a G5 thruster updates too because why not? Then I fly to Sirius, transfer the ships there, and give both Overcharged power plants (G4) as well as some power distribution stuff. Now, Vulture can actually support two PAs with just FDS Interdictor and the useless cargo hatch shutting down. I have now spent something like 3 hours and approximately 3 million credits for simply waiting my ships to be transferred. But I have it! I have a twin PA combat build Vulture! It's expensive as poo poo and took FOREVER to get to even be able to shoot! It cannot do anything but kill and interdict!

So I take it to a rez. It's a pain in the rear end. I cannot hit the targets with trailing lead indicator at all. I change the indicator to leading and that seems to help me a bit. What helps me more is to realize that Plasma Vulture can 1) only consistently hit things which are right in front of it and 2) suffers when facing a Cobra or other really fast craft. Also, PAs require extreme distributor control, have a glacial rate of fire, and reload costs are large. But when you hit something with dual plasmas, it goes boom, and Pythons cannot really shake me at all. I feel like I'm cheesing the game for little or no gain. The RoF is so bad I keep missing kill windows because the things are recharging.

I'm wondering if 2xBurst, 1xPulse+1xPA, 2xRail or even 2xCannon would be good. Strength in PvP is a bonus.

Daztek
Jun 2, 2006



I think Beam+MC is the cool thing for vultures

LostCosmonaut
Feb 15, 2014

Did you mod the PACs at all? Efficient 5 will massively help with distrib and power issues.

Mike the TV
Jan 14, 2008

Ninety-nine ninety-nine ninety-nine

Pillbug
A dual PAC vulture is a straight python killer. It does great on big ships in general.

El Perkele
Nov 7, 2002

I HAVE SHIT OPINIONS ON STAR WARS MOVIES!!!

I can't even call the right one bad.

LostCosmonaut posted:

Did you mod the PACs at all? Efficient 5 will massively help with distrib and power issues.

Not as of yet.

Black Griffon
Mar 12, 2005

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are. You are destiny.


Blinker is starting to look like one of those hundred year old whales with the nicks and scratches and all, but it's fun how something as simple as a name plate is enough to make me never want to sell a ship again.

Rah!
Feb 21, 2006


Overwined posted:

So about how much Exploration data do you have to sell to get to Friendly with a faction?

I wasn't paying close attention, but I think it took a few million to get from neutral to allied, the last time i dumped exploration data at a station.

DreadLlama
Jul 15, 2005
Not just for breakfast anymore

LostCosmonaut posted:

Did you mod the PACs at all? Efficient 5 will massively help with distrib and power issues.

Confirm. PACs require efficiency 5 in order to be useful.

Overwined
Sep 22, 2008

Wine can of their wits the wise beguile,
Make the sage frolic, and the serious smile.

Rah! posted:

I wasn't paying close attention, but I think it took a few million to get from neutral to allied, the last time i dumped exploration data at a station.

Thanks. Coming back to the bubble with about 15m in data and I want to spread it around to get a few engineers unlocked.

Anime Store Adventure
May 6, 2009


Doing surface prospecting for the first time in a long while for engineering materials. Luckily I've had good luck finding plenty of what I need all in an hour or so.

It does make me wish the SRV had a sick spoiler, a 6-speed manual, and a codriver to complete the rally feel.

"Caution: Rocks" would take on a whole new meaning.

Exit Strategy
Dec 10, 2010

by sebmojo

Black Griffon posted:

Blinker is starting to look like one of those hundred year old whales with the nicks and scratches and all, but it's fun how something as simple as a name plate is enough to make me never want to sell a ship again.



Blinker's still on.

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...

Pork Pro

Overwined posted:

Thanks. Coming back to the bubble with about 15m in data and I want to spread it around to get a few engineers unlocked.

Only works on certain engineers, so plan accordingly! My experience says ~2M in data will get you allied...somewhere in my post history I wrote down how much it takes to rank 5 an engineer with explo data, but it's probably easier with mats now that you don't need commodities.

Not sure how far out you went, but these days payouts are worth ~1.5M/1kly with casual scanning (honk, grab WWs and rando HMC/MR that might be terraformable), so your trip may be worth more than you think!

Grashnak
Apr 30, 2006

Oven Wrangler

Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:

Only works on certain engineers, so plan accordingly! My experience says ~2M in data will get you allied...somewhere in my post history I wrote down how much it takes to rank 5 an engineer with explo data, but it's probably easier with mats now that you don't need commodities.

Not sure how far out you went, but these days payouts are worth ~1.5M/1kly with casual scanning (honk, grab WWs and rando HMC/MR that might be terraformable), so your trip may be worth more than you think!

When I did it after they buffed exploration payouts it took 6m of data to get to allied.
10m got me to rank 4 with Palin and partway to rank 5 so you need somewhere around 12-15m to get an engineer to rank 5.

Parkingtigers
Feb 23, 2008
TARGET CONSUMER
LOVES EVERY FUCKING GAME EVER MADE. EVER.
June 27th for the PS4 release. This thirsty boy finally gets to play, and not even the grouchiest of you thousand hour veterans can burst my bubble. So hyped.

It's going to be so weird, day one, in a galaxy where everyone is flying a Sidewinder, and mostly crashing into things wondering how the hell anything works.

Black Griffon
Mar 12, 2005

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are. You are destiny.


Five guys who accidentally turned off rotational correction tumbling and colliding like balls in a lotto machine. The husks of poor maneuverability littering the landscapes of high g bubble worlds.

Exit Strategy posted:

Blinker's still on.

Best believe.

Dishwasher
Dec 5, 2006

Congratulations on not getting fit in 2011!
It still may be better to be on the Xbox side if console play is a must, if only because I think most people are going to buy the Scorpio over PS4's upgrade overall. Maybe it'll have the bigger community in the long run?

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮

Black Griffon posted:

Blinker is starting to look like one of those hundred year old whales with the nicks and scratches and all, but it's fun how something as simple as a name plate is enough to make me never want to sell a ship again.





Didn't someone here have a 3% or something paintjob?

Moral_Hazard
Aug 21, 2012

Rich Kid of Insurancegram

Silver Alicorn posted:



Didn't someone here have a 3% or something paintjob?

I had a 0% paintjob on my trip to horsehead nebula. I wasn't gone that long in game time, but I did take a couple month break from Elite while I was out in the black and a bit surprised to see my paint eroded to such a degree. I'm at work and don't have a screenshot, but I did take one. It was like the Anaconda was sandblasted prior to repainting it.

illBilliam
Jan 8, 2006

Parkingtigers posted:

June 27th for the PS4 release. This thirsty boy finally gets to play, and not even the grouchiest of you thousand hour veterans can burst my bubble. So hyped.

It's going to be so weird, day one, in a galaxy where everyone is flying a Sidewinder, and mostly crashing into things wondering how the hell anything works.

Oh yes! I played this on Mac OSX until it wasn't supported anymore. Looking forward to starting anew on the PS4.

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Parkingtigers
Feb 23, 2008
TARGET CONSUMER
LOVES EVERY FUCKING GAME EVER MADE. EVER.

illBilliam posted:

Oh yes! I played this on Mac OSX until it wasn't supported anymore. Looking forward to starting anew on the PS4.

You and any other PS4 goons looking to get into space can add ParkingtigersX on PSN and we'll all be terrible in space together.

Pre-orders are going up today in Europe, and on the 30th on the US store. Bafflingly, they are still offering to sell the base game separately from Horizons for people who want half a game, but there will be a Commander's edition which puts them both together (along with a paint pack and a pre-order bonus gold Sidewinder skin). Also, a Legendary edition on physical disk which is E:D, Horizons, and 1,000 Frontier Points which is the real money currency used to buy things like ship kits from the Frontier website.

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