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In less grisly crashes... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhlzbInE0Lo Things to avoid while on track: Dirt! I knew I was pushing it too hard in that corner, the little crest was enough make my stomach go "nope!" Duping this because new page and to leave that other poo poo behind.
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ilkhan posted:In less grisly crashes... Good job keeping it upright.
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*pauses video when leg is a few feet off the ground, pointing mostly upwards* the ol' razzle dazzle
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ilkhan posted:In less grisly crashes... I really think you should have committed and pushed harder on your bars
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For the authentic experience of your vintage bike failing in unexpected ways.
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Cindy Shitbird posted:*pauses video when leg is a few feet off the ground, pointing mostly upwards* EX250 Type R posted:I really think you should have committed and pushed harder on your bars
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Take a wider line to get apex near the curb and or watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20Wx4YrZ55I
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Gullous posted:Take a wider line to get apex near the curb and or watch this:
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ilkhan posted:I did stay upright. If you really want the full vid back to the paddock I'll show it. Its just boring once you're already stopped. I as referring to the severed leg in that horrible other video. Good job backing off safely, though! Could have been infinitely worse.
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Gullous posted:Take a wider line to get apex near the curb and or watch this: This thing looks like it was filmed by the Shaw Brothers, down to the old man Pai Mei goatee poo poo. Still a good view for new riders though. R-Type fucked around with this message at 06:07 on May 15, 2017 |
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ilkhan posted:In less grisly crashes... This was Thunderhill West? Were you there with Can Akkaya?
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Ask someone at the track to help you with how and where to shift
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nsaP posted:Ask someone at the track to help you with how and where to shift
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ilkhan posted:That I know too. I spent way too much time a gear above where I should have been, too. But at least that was deliberate. You're over-revving it while shifting up, try to lower the revs a bit so your clutch plate doesn't have to fix your mistakes.
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Any issues w/ doing clutchless upshifts on the track?
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Jazzzzz posted:Any issues w/ doing clutchless upshifts on the track? Are you asking him or the thread in general? I feel like quick shifters are cheap enough that if you are wanting to shift without clutching you might as well go the whole way so you minimize the possibility of loving up a dog or fork and gain the ability to run flat out through the gears. But I'd recommend anyone master normal shifting first before thinking of moving to anything else. Clutches are cheaper than transmission rebuilds.
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Was more of a general question. If he's over revving on upshift because he's just pulling the clutch and not getting off the gas, clutchless upshifts would force rolling off the throttle. I suppose if you really gently caress up you could bend a fork, but I was wondering more if there were any implications for traction or upsetting the chassis if you're rolling off and back on at high speed and not smoothing things out with the clutch.
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Jazzzzz posted:Was more of a general question. If he's over revving on upshift because he's just pulling the clutch and not getting off the gas, clutchless upshifts would force rolling off the throttle. I suppose if you really gently caress up you could bend a fork, but I was wondering more if there were any implications for traction or upsetting the chassis if you're rolling off and back on at high speed and not smoothing things out with the clutch. Gotcha. I can't comment there as I use the clutch all the time.
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Hammering the next gear in while the revs are high sounds pretty dangerous, I'd say practice clutchless shifting on the street at the mid-rpm range.
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Nfcknblvbl posted:You're over-revving it while shifting up, try to lower the revs a bit so your clutch plate doesn't have to fix your mistakes. FWIW this is the whole of the 3rd session, which felt (overall, there were still bad parts) much smoother to me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBJpOeQKoOo
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Tangentially related: Is gentle slip-shifting on the street generally safe? I notice a lot of driveline slack in my bike when I slip up (chain is properly adjusted), so I generally don't do it because it feels weird to me. Is slipping down possible too?
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Fifty Three posted:Is slipping down possible too? Yes, except instead of rolling off the throttle you blip it to unload the transmission and rev match while you downshift. For me, it's a lot harder to get the timing right. Upshift: load shift lever, roll off throttle, higher gear clicks into place, back on throttle Downshift: load shift lever, blip throttle, lower gear clicks into place, roll back off throttle if you're still trying to decelerate If you gently caress up (and don't have a slipper clutch), you're probably going to get some wheel hop.
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I rode home about 45 minutes with no clutch once, I think you can do it with very little stress on the transmission if you're careful with the throttle. But why?
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:I rode home about 45 minutes with no clutch once, I think you can do it with very little stress on the transmission if you're careful with the throttle. But why? sometimes you get stuck behind some car and you gotta ride sassy with your hand on your left hip
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Sometimes I get stuck in stop-and-go traffic and the grip in my left hand starts to get weak. Slipping up in those situations is slightly preferable. v vEX250 Type R posted:sometimes you get stuck behind some car and you gotta ride sassy with your hand on your left hip Thanks for the refresher on slipping. That's how I've done it, I was just confirming that it can be done with little stress to the driveline. Once again, the general mantra of "have some mechanical sympathy and you're fine" rings true.
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I may be completely wrong here, but if you gently caress this up (especially downshifting) you can wreck your transmission at most or greatly accelerate the wear and limit the life span at the least. I can't see a good reason to do this with a working clutch.
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The best exhaust mod. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yncCNEDFsP4&t=46s
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Jazzzzz posted:Was more of a general question. If he's over revving on upshift because he's just pulling the clutch and not getting off the gas, clutchless upshifts would force rolling off the throttle. I suppose if you really gently caress up you could bend a fork, but I was wondering more if there were any implications for traction or upsetting the chassis if you're rolling off and back on at high speed and not smoothing things out with the clutch. You'd have to either have the most delicate gearbox on the planet* or ankles like Ozymandias to damage your gearbox with a clutchless upshift. Every racer on Earth does them (apart from in formulas that allow quickshifters) specifically because it upsets the bike less than using the clutch - done properly they're drat-near seamless. They're even taught in most advanced road-riding courses simply because of how much smoother they are than clutched upshifts. * helical-cut boxes apparently do wear out quicker with clutchless shifting but you're talking about 80,000 miles rather than 100,000 miles out of them, something else is going to break way before that.
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tjones posted:I may be completely wrong here, but if you gently caress this up (especially downshifting) you can wreck your transmission at most or greatly accelerate the wear and limit the life span at the least. Don't clutchless down-shift, there's no real excuse for that apart from actual clutch failure.
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EX250 Type R posted:I really think you should have committed and pushed harder on your bars Yeah I agree, this was a bit of target fixation. From your lean angle on the previous turn it's clear you're new to the track thing though, so all good! And if there's anywhere to clutchless upshift, it's on the track. Since you're revving higher, it means it easier and faster to get cogs to line up, and your shifts are a lot smoother and easier than lower down in the rev range (similar to a quickshifter really). But worry about that when you've gotten more comfortable with the track, it does free up your left hand to worry about other things. Barnsy fucked around with this message at 22:05 on May 15, 2017 |
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Shadowlz posted:The best exhaust mod. Not a bike but it's actually this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieJUP9O9RG8
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Barnsy posted:Yeah I agree, this was a bit of target fixation. From your lean angle on the previous turn it's clear you're new to the track thing though, so all good!  Better to start with good habits than have to erase bad ones.
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Wow, that's the freshest newbie I've ever seen on the track. Good on ya, just be careful.
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Not gonna lie this looks fun. https://twitter.com/c0rnhead/status/863719849976975361/video/1
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