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Marvel is in Standard for another year and a half. But Ulamog is leaving.
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May 15, 2017 19:14
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Rinkles posted:Marvel is in Standard for another year and a half. If the upcoming Nicol Bolas planeswalker is as powerful as Ugin was, they're going to end up needing to ban Marvel at some point.
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May 15, 2017 19:39
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Rinkles posted:Marvel is in Standard for another year and a half. Marvel would probably not be playable without Ulamog... Or at least Fringy if the best thing you can get off it is like a Worldbreaker or a Chandra 6.
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May 15, 2017 19:47
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mcmagic posted:Marvel would probably not be playable without Ulamog... Or at least Fringy if the best thing you can get off it is like a Worldbreaker or a Chandra 6. good thing they're not going to print any other game-winning 7+ mana spells for the next 15 months then.
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May 15, 2017 19:55
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Marvel would be fun janky poo poo without the OP Eldrazi. Would love to hit a T4 Nissa's Renewal or the Vanilla 10/10 Eldrazi that shits out a 10/10 token beside it. Also like the dude said a post up Approach from the 2nd Sun.
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May 15, 2017 20:13
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The thing that I like more in the Eldrazi, in Aetherwork Marvel and so on is that they are dumb timmy cards that really piss off people that want to feel "smart" playing control decks.
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May 15, 2017 21:11
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80s James Hetfield posted:Marvel would be fun janky poo poo without the OP Eldrazi. Would love to hit a T4 Nissa's Renewal or the Vanilla 10/10 Eldrazi that shits out a 10/10 token beside it. Also like the dude said a post up Approach from the 2nd Sun. Sandworm Convergence.
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May 15, 2017 21:23
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mcmagic posted:Sandworm Convergence. I think I would cough up blood laughing if this became a thing.
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May 15, 2017 21:41
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YggdrasilTM posted:The thing that I like more in the Eldrazi, in Aetherwork Marvel and so on is that they are dumb timmy cards that really piss off people that want to feel "smart" playing control decks. Eldrazi cards themselves don't make control unplayable, the dumb, durdling, value vomit that comes from Marvel decks does. e: Also what part of "lol I love how this bad gameplay makes people that I dislike not have fun" is supposed to come off as not incredibly douchey? ThePeavstenator fucked around with this message at 21:56 on May 15, 2017 |
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May 15, 2017 21:43
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InterrupterJones posted:I think I would cough up blood laughing if this became a thing.
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May 15, 2017 21:45
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ThePeavstenator posted:Eldrazi cards themselves don't make control unplayable, the dumb, durdling, value vomit that comes from Marvel decks does. no, it's more "I love when people lose to things they dismiss as bad gameplay". It's more or less the reason I play only janky, improbable decks in modern.
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May 15, 2017 21:58
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YggdrasilTM posted:no, is more "I love when people lose to things they dismiss as bad gameplay". Unless you have a gambling addiction what about pulling a slot machine is supposed to be fun?
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May 15, 2017 22:00
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ThePeavstenator posted:Unless you have a gambling addiction what about pulling a slot machine is supposed to be fun? I like the feeling when you are extremely behind on board and you try to solve the situation with 6 unknown cards. It's like a new puzzle everytime.
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May 15, 2017 22:02
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ThePeavstenator posted:Unless you have a gambling addiction what about pulling a slot machine is supposed to be fun? Some people are so bad at the game the only way they can succeed is by coinflip.
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May 15, 2017 22:12
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YggdrasilTM posted:I like the feeling when you are extremely behind on board and you try to solve the situation with 6 unknown cards. It's like a new puzzle everytime. The answer to the puzzle is "The card I need and/or Ulamog is in the top 6" or "The card I need and/or Ulamog is not in the top 6". A real headscratcher.
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May 15, 2017 22:14
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Lone Goat posted:Some people are so bad at the game the only way they can succeed is by coinflip. I actually built a coinflip deck once. It was great.
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May 15, 2017 22:15
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My favorite puzzle game is pack wars.
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May 15, 2017 22:16
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Chill la Chill posted:My favorite puzzle game is pack wars. Flip it or Rip it.
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May 15, 2017 22:25
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ThePeavstenator posted:The answer to the puzzle is "The card I need and/or Ulamog is in the top 6" or "The card I need and/or Ulamog is not in the top 6". A real headscratcher. Sometimes it's not so easy. Do I cast this attune to find a land and MAYBE cast Ulamog from my hand in the next 2 turns? Do I cast Chandra and use her as a removal, even if she will surely die next turn? Do I cast a puzzleknot for just 3 life and spin again next turn?
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May 15, 2017 22:31
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Speaking of puzzle games is anyone playing the mtg puzzle quest? Could not find a thread for it or any current chatter in the android/ios games threads
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May 15, 2017 22:45
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Maybe the real Marvel was the friends we made along the way. Nah just kidding the real marvel is that the card was clearly designed and developed with casting Eldrazi in mind, since they all have casting triggers and like every other card like this just puts it on the battlefield, yet apparently no one bothered to ask hey wait what happens if you cast eldrazi real early using this card almost explicitly made for doing just that.
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May 15, 2017 22:50
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Bugsy posted:Speaking of puzzle games is anyone playing the mtg puzzle quest? Could not find a thread for it or any current chatter in the android/ios games threads I played it for a little while but it's probably one of the most textbook examples of "pay to win" in regards to free to play games, on top of the fact that the prices are loving outrageous. It would be a way more respectable game if there wasn't such an insane discrepancy between the power in terms of card rarity and the planeswalkers that cost real money.
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May 15, 2017 22:54
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suicidesteve posted:Flip it or Rip it. Here is a small sample of the cards the people at my local store have ripped or flipped.   
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May 15, 2017 23:03
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Maybe giving the eldrazi cast triggers that make counterspells kinda poo poo against them wasn't the greatest design decision, either. I want a brainstorm reprint in HoD, because crafting your hand and top of deck is exactly what marvel decks need to ruin standard once and for all
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May 15, 2017 23:05
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Aetherworks Marvel: Literally Six Times Worse Than Miracles
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May 15, 2017 23:21
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OgreNoah posted:Here is a small sample of the cards the idiots at my local store have ripped or flipped. Don't stop now... I'm so close...
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May 15, 2017 23:22
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Ironically, all the cards for my New Perspectives deck arrived today. Except the New Perspectives.
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May 15, 2017 23:23
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PJOmega posted:Ironically, all the cards for my New Perspectives deck arrived today. Except the New Perspectives. Just play the deck without them and complain about how unlucky you are to never find a New Perspectives even after cycling through 20+ cards.
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May 15, 2017 23:24
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mcmagic posted:Sandworm Convergence. I kinda want to run this in my lovely Modern Enchantress deck even though it's way worse than any other wincon I'm packing right now.
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May 15, 2017 23:49
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GeneX posted:Maybe giving the eldrazi cast triggers that make counterspells kinda poo poo against them wasn't the greatest design decision, either. That part's fine on its own, since they tend to have huge mana costs. Problems arise when those mana costs are circumvented but they're still cast.
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May 15, 2017 23:50
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PJOmega posted:Ironically, all the cards for my New Perspectives deck arrived today. Except the New Perspectives. I have three if you want to trade for'em. :/
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May 16, 2017 00:10
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OgreNoah posted:Here is a small sample of the cards the people at my local store have ripped or flipped. Your store is literally Hitler. Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Maybe the real Marvel was the friends we made along the way. Weren't they not supposed to be in the same standard? Or if they were only for a few months? Nobody would be complaining if Ulamog had already rotated. What would the best card be to hit then, Sandwurm Convergence?
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May 16, 2017 00:10
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suicidesteve posted:Your store is literally Hitler. Marvel and Ulamog were legal last season too. It's that half of that season you just cast Emrakul off it and it was the best deck in the format. Then it wasn't even a real player because if you were playing a broken combo deck you'd play Infinite Cats.
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May 16, 2017 00:16
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OgreNoah posted:Here is a small sample of the cards the people at my local store have ripped or flipped. Where's the fun in rip it or flip it? Is it just for a dumb thrill like Russian Roulette? Edit: Or is it to give the gift of Schadenfreude to others in your immediate vicinity? That guy in the background of the first photo looks like he's having a great time. Papa Was A Video Toaster fucked around with this message at 01:47 on May 16, 2017 |
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May 16, 2017 01:44
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TVsVeryOwn posted:Where's the fun in rip it or flip it? Is it just for a dumb thrill like Russian Roulette? It's basically so you can post "lol u mad?" whenever someone points out how dumb it is.
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May 16, 2017 01:57
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80s James Hetfield posted:I don't like his updates (especially Bounty of the Luxa and I always HATED Prophetic Prism) but YMMV. So I've been playing around with your list a little and the one thing I'm still sort of confused on is what a nut draw looks like for the deck and what your trip wires for mulligans and keeper hands looks like.
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May 16, 2017 02:09
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Marvel won't need a ban, it is as successful as it has ever been and it still isn't dominating and people have already adjusted. Today's 5-0 decks have 1 Marvel, 2 Mardu, 2 UR control and 4 zombie decks. There still isn't even a consensus on the best Marvel or Zombie build, but the deck isn't exactly going to get strengthened by new sets since the core mechanic is limited to Kaladesh.
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May 16, 2017 02:39
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mcmagic posted:Sandworm Convergence. I didn't even think of this but I loving like it. I might build jank rear end marvel
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May 16, 2017 02:42
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ManMythLegend posted:So I've been playing around with your list a little and the one thing I'm still sort of confused on is what a nut draw looks like for the deck and what your trip wires for mulligans and keeper hands looks like. Lands that allow a T3 Visions/Tower. If I have 2 of the 3 pieces needed and I have an Anticipate I'll usually keep it. I'll mull if I can't do anything the first 3 turns. Granted, I'm not a PT or GP or Open player but my FNM has like 20+ people a week with all kinds of brews, aggro, control and a few T1 poo poo so I'm not looking for an intense nut draw every game. edit: do you play on MTGO? (lol)
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May 16, 2017 02:46
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Marketing New Brain posted:the deck isn't exactly going to get strengthened by new sets since the core mechanic is limited to Kaladesh. If Ugin was still in the format, giving the Marvel deck eight hits that are hard to answer, get you back in from behind, and end the game if unanswered, then it'd be the outright best deck. It's going to be hard for a Nicol Bolas, God-Pharoah to be both impressively powerful and also worth casting without being around as powerful as Ugin was, depending on if Hour of Devastation's development came late enough that they aren't deliberately pushing their story cards beyond a reasonable power level anymore. The Marvel deck builds up energy reasonably well, and can run Whir of Invention if getting Marvel were a guaranteed victory, so it's not like it needs any boosts to stuff dependent on Kaladesh mechanics. Also even if Nicol Bolas isn't good enough, there needs to not be any super powerful expensive cards in the next four sets. Marvel is going to stick around a long rear end time, and maybe WotC is competent enough to recognize that and not print anything like the Eldrazi Titans, but I'm not particularly confident in them.
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May 16, 2017 03:15
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