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Kibner posted:Look at how similar the Spurs and Knicks are: There are a bunch of similarities like this that make me question what it is exactly we're supposed to be gleaning from these. Like Brooklyn and Cleveland have very similar charts.
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roundmidnight posted:It's appropriate that the Raptors' graph looks like the sword they fall onto every year in the playoffs. also lmao at how extremely skewed they are towards iso
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May 16, 2017 18:59
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How is shot selection measured?
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Papercut posted:There are a bunch of similarities like this that make me question what it is exactly we're supposed to be gleaning from these. Like Brooklyn and Cleveland have very similar charts. It is supposed to be a very, very big picture of style. Does not take into account effectiveness one bit.
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May 16, 2017 19:05
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The Nets is really nice. If Im not reading it wrong. Does this mean, for the most part, that they have a good offensive system, just devoid of weapons or too many of the same type of weapons (hence no spacing?)
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Papercut posted:There are a bunch of similarities like this that make me question what it is exactly we're supposed to be gleaning from these. Like Brooklyn and Cleveland have very similar charts. Like Kibner said, it's just style of play. The personnel determine the effectiveness of the style
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May 16, 2017 19:06
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zoux posted:How is shot selection measured? Probably expected value from shots you take. Basically midrange shots are bad and the Spurs take a lot of mid range shots. The guys they have taking those shots are generally good and they have the highest 3 point percent in the league so their offense isn't bad.
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May 16, 2017 19:07
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zoux posted:How is shot selection measured? https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/6bid1g/oc_nba_team_profiles_graphics_showing_the/dhmtgi3/ pre:Spacing 3-point attempts per 100 possessions Isolation 1 / Potential assists per 100 possessions Ball Movement 1 / Average seconds per touch Shot Selection (Restricted area FGA + 3-point attempts + Free throw attempts) / Total FGA Transition Percentage of total scoring plays classified as transition
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May 16, 2017 19:07
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Spacing valley of the Timberwolves We need shooting
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May 16, 2017 19:10
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Kibner posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/6bid1g/oc_nba_team_profiles_graphics_showing_the/dhmtgi3/ Ok so it's just looking at what percentage of the shots taken were threes and layups/dunks then. Thanks.
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May 16, 2017 19:28
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That shot selection measurement is way rougher than I'd have though. Spacing seems like a bad measurement too.
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May 16, 2017 19:34
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Exactly.
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Bashez posted:That shot selection measurement is way rougher than I'd have though. Spacing seems like a bad measurement too. It's ascribing value to shots in a vacuum as opposed to who's taking them and what type of shot it is (transition, contested, off the dribble, etc.) It's a flawed picture at best
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May 16, 2017 19:38
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zoux posted:People assumed that last year as well, yet I recall that the 73-win Golden State Warriors featuring the only unanimous MVP in league history blew a 3-1 lead in the NBA finals to lose the championship. I recall that as well.
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May 16, 2017 19:42
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Declan MacManus posted:It's ascribing value to shots in a vacuum as opposed to who's taking them and what type of shot it is (transition, contested, off the dribble, etc.) Don't tell that to Daryl Morey.
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May 16, 2017 19:42
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I support Daryl Morey and his friend Mike D'Antoni in their valiant effort to solve basketball
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May 16, 2017 19:47
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Do the Warriors even have a winning record in the playoffs against healthy teams over the last three years?
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May 16, 2017 19:50
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leftist heap posted:I don't understand why Portland can't and doesn't make more transition plays. Is it cause of Stotts or are CJ and Dame just not big enough to beat guys in transition or what. They suck at rebounding. Also I think the teams that push pace most effectively have forwards that can grab the rebound and go.
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May 16, 2017 19:53
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I only support basketball owners and GMs who are incredibly stupid but through sheer luck and obvious tanking get one of the best players of all time when then leaves for four years and then they get 3 #1 overall picks because they didn't bother to surround that player with any talent and then one of those #1 overall picks ends up in the D-League but it doesn't matter because the best player of all time felt bad about hurting his image so he came back to the hometown team and recruited superstars and old men who can still play and took his team to two championships in a row, losing one when the other two all stars were hurt, and winning the second in the greatest game 7 of all time, and may go to a third this year too. That's my thoughts on basketball.
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Bashez posted:Do the Warriors even have a winning record in the playoffs against healthy teams over the last three years? They are 9-1 in series the last 3 years. Unless you are saying the Western Playoffs are a cakewalk, the Warriors have been really good at winning Playoff series.
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Lockback posted:They are 9-1 in series the last 3 years. Unless you are saying the Western Playoffs are a cakewalk, the Warriors have been really good at winning Playoff series. You're replying to Bashez
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Bigass Moth posted:I only support basketball owners and GMs who are incredibly stupid but through sheer luck and obvious tanking get one of the best players of all time when then leaves for four years and then they get 3 #1 overall picks because they didn't bother to surround that player with any talent and then one of those #1 overall picks ends up in the D-League but it doesn't matter because the best player of all time felt bad about hurting his image so he came back to the hometown team and recruited superstars and old men who can still play and took his team to two championships in a row, losing one when the other two all stars were hurt, and winning the second in the greatest game 7 of all time, and may go to a third this year too. Same But for real gently caress Dan and his comic sans
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Paul Zuvella posted:You're replying to Bashez I just keep doing it during every playoff season.
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May 16, 2017 20:01
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Spite posted:They suck at rebounding. Portland's pretty average, 17th in OREB% and 12th in DREB%. For the second part, it still kind of depends on offensive philosophy — three of Charlotte's top four rebounders (MKG, Marvin Williams, Batum) are athletic forwards, but they use that extra time to set up their offense instead of hunting for transition buckets
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May 16, 2017 20:06
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What's the correlation for defense into transition?
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May 16, 2017 20:07
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Lockback posted:They are 9-1 in series the last 3 years. Unless you are saying the Western Playoffs are a cakewalk, the Warriors have been really good at winning Playoff series. I felt like there was a pretty low bar to "getting it" with that post.
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May 16, 2017 20:13
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Bigass Moth posted:I only support basketball owners and GMs who are incredibly stupid but through sheer luck and obvious tanking get one of the best players of all time when then leaves for four years and then they get 3 #1 overall picks because they didn't bother to surround that player with any talent and then one of those #1 overall picks ends up in the D-League but it doesn't matter because the best player of allf Fun fact the Kyrie pick came from the clippers
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AggressivelyStupid posted:Fun fact the Kyrie pick came from the clippers For the low low price of Mo Williams and taking on Baron Davis' contract
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AggressivelyStupid posted:Fun fact the Kyrie pick came from the clippers Haha I forgot that but those teams post-LeBron with only Kyrie were extremely putrid.
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May 16, 2017 20:28
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re: dad dick someone told me russ hate fucks the rims. that's why hes a child's MVP. lebron gives the hoop the dad dick. slow at first, some foreplay. teasing, giving the ball to kevin love instead, even though the hoop really wants lebron. devilishly whispering: no, not yet. revealing hints of the power and speed he has mastery of-- but just hints! here and there... until the right time has arrived, when he throws down chaos dunks and slaps down lesser challengers( this part is the hard loving part of my analogy). thank you
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do the thing where you quote my avatar looking at my post. thank you
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Dad dicking the rim would be more like the rim has a headache and LeBron constantly throws down quick dunks against a semi hostile rim until one day he just can't even anymore and starts catching the rim even when he wants to throw down that dunk, his forlorn ball bouncing away as his spite for the rim grows every day he wakes up
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Brolander posted:re: dad dick maybe these lesser challengers that lebron slaps down are into this "cuck" thing i've heard so much about lately
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https://twitter.com/BoSchwartz/status/864570237949292545
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May 16, 2017 21:12
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D. Green the 3-point shooter is not a very descriptive label
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Shear Modulus posted:D. Green the 3-point shooter is not a very descriptive label It's yellow, so that means it's Draymond.
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https://twitter.com/NBAonTNT/status/864564816735817736 thinking emojii goes here
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https://twitter.com/basketballtalk/status/864575462588071937 >_>
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Kibner posted:It's yellow, so that means it's Draymond. yeah, i figured it out. but adding the first intial is funny since it doesn't help AggressivelyStupid posted:https://twitter.com/NBAonTNT/status/864564816735817736 actually it looks like it went in the original tweet so is ainge gonna try and fleece somebody for olynyk or is he going to do the ainge thing and ridiculously overvalue his own assets and demand nothing less than paul george
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AggressivelyStupid posted:https://twitter.com/NBAonTNT/status/864564816735817736 Undone by THAT. Poor John Wall.
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