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hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

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Stefan Prodan posted:

Haha nice

I just wanna get the elite rewards, which means I have to get at least 25 wins sometime in the next two WLs, I need a 24 and a 25

I believe!

You'll get it soon, no problem. If you want we can set up a time to play a couple games this week and get some practice in, if you've got time. I'm on euro time so just lemme know when will work for you and we'll figure something out.

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Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer
Oh sure, for some reason I thought you were US but yeah I am around during the day here so it shouldn't be a problem

Hopefully our weaknesses are different so maybe we can help each other out

Tzen
Sep 11, 2001

hopterque posted:

Another nice free kick:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5C7qsKnuu4

Cavani is good, y'all.
gently caress nice goal. I love those free kicks that wrap into the net from the outside.

Tzen
Sep 11, 2001

I just scored a hat trick with SIF-Modeste. It was by far the best 3 goals I've scored with this card.

first goal, a scissor kick from the corner,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=105u924ppU4&t=23s

the celebration is long, so here's the replay,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=105u924ppU4&t=51s

solid goal from some distance,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmbxAxc2-nk&t=30s

and the hat trick goal, a silly rear end angle and off the crossbar,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne7X5HBKet4&t=32s

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

     sup
Phwoarrrr that third goal, drat.

Seltzer
Oct 11, 2012

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I was loving around after I got my benchmark 11 wins in WL. Wait for it....



Also I'm a big fan of karate kick volleys

TOTKS Aspas is a loving massive steal. Speaking of, the biggest bargain at the moment is SIF Werner. He's a much better aubameyang for half the price

Seltzer fucked around with this message at 06:37 on May 15, 2017

Lawen
Aug 7, 2000

Seltzer posted:

Speaking of, the biggest bargain at the moment is SIF Werner. He's a much better aubameyang for half the price

I upgraded my IF Werner to NIF Aubameyang not too long ago and it felt like a big upgrade so I was a little dubious of your claim but I just compared 2IF Werner to 87 Aub and sure enough, Werner's stats are pretty dominant in everything except FKs and Defense. Which leads me to ask, is the overall rating not a direct calculation based on the other stats? If you put 2IF Werner and NIF Aubameyang stats side by side, I don't see how you'd add them up or average them out to get 84 for Werner and 87 for Aub; seems like it should be the other way around.

I'm gonna pick up 2IF Werner today or tomorrow while the market's low and give him a shot.

Also, good call and thanks to everyone who suggested Keita for my Bundes squad, he's been an assist beast. Orange Sommer has also been a good upgrade in goal.

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

     sup
Woo, won the tournament for the TOTS Rudy on my 2nd try, no problems. I lost the first final i got to to some guy who was obviously taking things a LOT more seriously than I was, using extra silvers on the field and then subbing in record breaker ronaldo and TOTY messi and playing on full defensive for most of the game. He still barely, barely scraped a win thanks to a bad penalty call, but it is what it is.

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

     sup

Lawen posted:

I upgraded my IF Werner to NIF Aubameyang not too long ago and it felt like a big upgrade so I was a little dubious of your claim but I just compared 2IF Werner to 87 Aub and sure enough, Werner's stats are pretty dominant in everything except FKs and Defense. Which leads me to ask, is the overall rating not a direct calculation based on the other stats? If you put 2IF Werner and NIF Aubameyang stats side by side, I don't see how you'd add them up or average them out to get 84 for Werner and 87 for Aub; seems like it should be the other way around.

I'm gonna pick up 2IF Werner today or tomorrow while the market's low and give him a shot.

Also, good call and thanks to everyone who suggested Keita for my Bundes squad, he's been an assist beast. Orange Sommer has also been a good upgrade in goal.

International rep gives a boost, and obviously Aubamayeng is more well known than Werner, and also Informs are usually several overall lower than they should be based on raw stats alone.

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

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Oh my god Cavani is gonna get a POTY card and I have his previous SBC card and a 90 inform so if there's a requirement for one of his cards I'm gonna make out like a bandit.

Also, his POTY card looks absurdly good, he's going to be the best striker bar none in the game I think:

bewbies
Sep 23, 2003

Fun Shoe
So I actually packed a TOTY Sanson...which is the first sort of good UT card I've ever gotten between FIFA and several years of NHL UT. It also looked like one hell of a player, but being as that card by itself was worth more than the rest of my team put together I sold it and got a vanilla Hazard, vanilla Otamendi, and 83 Kante and IF Benteke (88) in exchange for him. So now, I look like this, in a 4-3-3 narrow:

LF: Hazard/Martial ST: Benteke/Vardy RF: Mane/Zaha

CM: Fabregas/Dembele/Fernandinho/Kante/Henderson/Matic

LB: Azpilicueta/Clichy CB: Otamendi/Smalling/Bailly RB: Coleman/Valencia

Begovic


The midfield is a real ball vacuum and is working great and the defense/goalkeeping is much improved but I really haven't figured out how the LF/RF works all that well yet. As a result all of my games recently have been 1-0 or 0-0 depending on if I can hit a long shot or score from a corner.....

I should have like 55k in the bank when I get home from a bunch of sales, any thoughts on what I should do with this?

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

     sup
The LF/RF thing is really all about playing one-twos between the three forwards until someone breaks past the defenders, basically. It's really good but can get shut down by good players and then it's gonna be a lot of passing around and waiting for an opening or firing a long shot, or maybe going in from one of the wings.


e:


Man, I can't wait, Cavani's 90 card was unbelievable already and this is just obscene. I put a catalyst on him because I mean might as well have 99 passing stats in addition to the shooting ones, and mid 90s pace to go with it.

I have to reiterate that this year has been IMO the best fifa they've ever put out by a long shot, in spite of the gameplay/technical issues. I had his previous sbc card so I saved a lot of money there, and other than that I spent ~140k coins on what is IMO without question the best player I've ever had in a fifa game, in addition to all the other incredible players I already have from various sources.

hopterque fucked around with this message at 22:48 on May 15, 2017

Seltzer
Oct 11, 2012

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Nice, I really like Cavani in game but the SBC just isn't worth the coins to me. I weighted up doing Kante and other sbcs like that and I'll wait for the TOTS that's 1 rating lower. Do we know who will win poty in other leagues because if you invest ahead that could be worth it.

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

     sup

Seltzer posted:

Nice, I really like Cavani in game but the SBC just isn't worth the coins to me. I weighted up doing Kante and other sbcs like that and I'll wait for the TOTS that's 1 rating lower. Do we know who will win poty in other leagues because if you invest ahead that could be worth it.

I mean Lewa probably for the Bundesliga, Higuain seems like the obvious choice for Serie A.


e: Serie A Could be Mertens as well.

Looks like Juve has won it 5 years in a row so maybe they'll go for someone else just for a different look.

hopterque fucked around with this message at 23:15 on May 15, 2017

Seltzer
Oct 11, 2012

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hopterque posted:

I mean Lewa probably for the Bundesliga, Higuain seems like the obvious choice for Serie A.


e: Serie A Could be Mertens as well.

Yea idk, also young poty looks more interesting/exciting. Lucky assholes who had IF Germain for 14k are allowed to use him in the Mbappe SBC.

e- Young player of the year in Serie A will definitely be Donnaruma. Picked up his 84 for 20k. Can't really lose on that deal.

e2- Bundesliga is probably Dembele. which would be nuts. Does anyone know what leagues do poty and young poty?

e3- It actually could be Naby Keita..... holy poo poo.

Seltzer fucked around with this message at 23:26 on May 15, 2017

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

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Good call on Donnaruma and Dembele I think, I picked up two Donnaruma's just in case, I mean, absolute worst case scenario is I lose 20k coins I guess, which would suck but isn't really a big deal, best case scenario I get back double what I paid basically.

I still have a Dembele OTW card that I rebought a few weeks back after things crashed figuring he might either sneak a last inform or wind up being useful at the end, so it'd be interesting to see if he gets a POTY card.

Seltzer
Oct 11, 2012

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hopterque posted:

Good call on Donnaruma and Dembele I think, I picked up two Donnaruma's just in case, I mean, absolute worst case scenario is I lose 20k coins I guess, which would suck but isn't really a big deal, best case scenario I get back double what I paid basically.

I still have a Dembele OTW card that I rebought a few weeks back after things crashed figuring he might either sneak a last inform or wind up being useful at the end, so it'd be interesting to see if he gets a POTY card.

See my last edit. Naby Keita is elligible for the young player award and definitely had a better season from what I can tell. I got the 84 for 20k. You won't lose coins on an 84 if at 20k. They always sell back or higher during sbcs.

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

     sup

Seltzer posted:

See my last edit. Naby Keita is elligible for the young player award and definitely had a better season from what I can tell. I got the 84 for 20k. You won't lose coins on an 84 if at 20k. They always sell back or higher during sbcs.

Oh man if it's Keita...

Oh MAN.

Seltzer
Oct 11, 2012

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I sniped a motm Germain for 45k. The Mbappe SBC looks a little too expensive atm. If it drops a lot during tommorows tots or the EPL tots, I'll do it.

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

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Mbappe looks nice but I've got the Lacazette SBC already so there's not really a point in me doing it.

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer
Finished the Son thing today, guess I'm gonna sub him in for Lewandowski at 30' or the half or something

Seltzer
Oct 11, 2012

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hopterque posted:

Mbappe looks nice but I've got the Lacazette SBC already so there's not really a point in me doing it.

I thought that (get lacazette not that I've done the ligue 1 sbc) but I saw the in game stats and it's very tempting.




Tldr - 95 dribbling, 95 finishing, 88 strength, 96 stamina.

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer
Also I have to say as someone who watches Tass a lot and some of the other pros, I was pretty :shobon: at them getting their own SBCs

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

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Stefan Prodan posted:

Also I have to say as someone who watches Tass a lot and some of the other pros, I was pretty :shobon: at them getting their own SBCs

Yeah, they were nice and easy too, some basically free 25k packs. I really like a lot of the pro fifa community, the Hashtag United boys and Huge Gorilla and etc, they put out good, informative, interesting videos and aren't cocky or anything.

Tass and Harry's 100-0 Coop series is really, really great, I feel super bad for anyone who runs into them in coop.


Anyway the thing with the Mbappe SBC is you can get the newest Lacazette for about the same amount of money and he's slightly better on paper and almost certainly better in terms of intangibles, his 87 SBC is insane for me, so I can't imagine Mbappe quite living up to that level even if he's got similar stats.

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer
Yeah Tass and Harry both seem super chill and nice, Harry is a huge spaz which is funny since he's easily top 10 in the world I guess

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

     sup

Stefan Prodan posted:

Yeah Tass and Harry both seem super chill and nice, Harry is a huge spaz which is funny since he's easily top 10 in the world I guess

Well, I'd honestly rate him as the best in the world, but his obvious inexperience at lan events led to him getting owned at both regional qualifiers so that's a shame. I'm sure he'll do better next year. He does stuff regularly in his videos that I don't see ANYONE else do, and like in the coop series Tass is consistently like "holy poo poo what was that".

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer
Oh I always just assumed Tass was better but he just puts out more content so I watch him more, he streams his weekend league, etc

Harry's 38 wins with a bronze team was legitimately loving insane though

Seltzer
Oct 11, 2012

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Got Rudy :thumbsup:

I faced two separate super try hards where I lost on pens both times (I've been dismal at pens recently) then I walked it the 3rd time. I think I'm going to stick with my El Sharaawy 433(4) squad for the weekend.

You'd be doing yourself a grave disservice if you don't pick up this guy for the weekend to use as an impact sub.
http://www.futhead.com/17/players/60557/ghayas-zahid/
He's 83 rated with no chemstyle applied at CAM and he has 86 pace and 4* skills. He legit feels like a good gold CAM in game. He's only going 1k above his quick sell price.

I've cooled myself on the Mbappe idea... I imagine he'll be awesome but the price is a put off. I'm going to wait til friday though for two reasons. Prices could crater and he'd be worth getting for ~100k imo if it gets that low, also Kante will be in the tots so we'll see how much difference there is between these sbc poty cards and tots cards. As for all the Lacazette recs, I don't get on much with h/h strikers. Aspas is an exception because with the set up I use him in it's fine for him to drop deeper and play to my wingers. I'd be using Mbappe or Lacazette in a two striker formation.

Also am I the only one who did the El Sha SBC here? I'm super glad I did it. He is Ronaldo/Messi tier but more fun because he's basically a hybrid of the two. Messi like nimbleness yet enough strength to stay on the ball and 5* skills like Ronaldo. Ronaldo powers through more stuff but sharaawy is much more nimble. He also has the custom pyramid/rockafella records celebration which I enjoy.

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer
Yeah I got Rudy on first try, in the third round I played someone called DAB SQUAD so I think obviously I had to dab on every goal

Right?

Also picked up that Zahid card, looks good

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

     sup

Seltzer posted:

Got Rudy :thumbsup:

I faced two separate super try hards where I lost on pens both times (I've been dismal at pens recently) then I walked it the 3rd time. I think I'm going to stick with my El Sharaawy 433(4) squad for the weekend.

You'd be doing yourself a grave disservice if you don't pick up this guy for the weekend to use as an impact sub.
http://www.futhead.com/17/players/60557/ghayas-zahid/
He's 83 rated with no chemstyle applied at CAM and he has 86 pace and 4* skills. He legit feels like a good gold CAM in game. He's only going 1k above his quick sell price.

I've cooled myself on the Mbappe idea... I imagine he'll be awesome but the price is a put off. I'm going to wait til friday though for two reasons. Prices could crater and he'd be worth getting for ~100k imo if it gets that low, also Kante will be in the tots so we'll see how much difference there is between these sbc poty cards and tots cards. As for all the Lacazette recs, I don't get on much with h/h strikers. Aspas is an exception because with the set up I use him in it's fine for him to drop deeper and play to my wingers. I'd be using Mbappe or Lacazette in a two striker formation.

Also am I the only one who did the El Sha SBC here? I'm super glad I did it. He is Ronaldo/Messi tier but more fun because he's basically a hybrid of the two. Messi like nimbleness yet enough strength to stay on the ball and 5* skills like Ronaldo. Ronaldo powers through more stuff but sharaawy is much more nimble. He also has the custom pyramid/rockafella records celebration which I enjoy.

I would have loved to do the Sharaawy SBC but at the time it would have cost me basically everything I had which just wasn't something I was willing to do.

General Dire
Apr 24, 2008
So how do you guys handle corners? The new system seems really weird and I haven't scored a single one yet. Also do you guys not play h2h?

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer
Basically on corners most people take it short then either go down the by line trying to driven pass it in, or they try to get it out to a man on the edge of the box for a shot.

Doing a direct lob into the box for a header works, maaaybe 1-2% of the time so people don't really do it

Even if you manually direct it to a big good heading CB or striker or something it just doesn't work much

Lawen
Aug 7, 2000

If you do want to try lobbed corners, I've had a little success with:
* LT/L2 to call a teammate over to the corner. If no opponents follow, just short pass to that guy. If an opponent does follow...
* LB/L1 to change to the guy you want to head with.
* Aim for the empty spot that was vacated by step 1 and give it about 2 bars of power
* Start running your header specialist into the area you aimed for and hit the lob button again
* Head it in

It does seem pretty low percentage though and you're probably better off just passing short most of the time.

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer
Yeah like that's definitely the best way to do a direct lobbed header if you are gonna do one but honestly even if you wanna lob to a tall guy you might have a higher % chance having him do a headed pass into the box and then hope someone gets an actual foot on it to shoot

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

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Full Power, aim like right in front of the goal basically right in the middle around the 6 yard line, let your guy at the near post slam it. It's pretty reliable for me, I got probably 6-10 goals off corners per weekend (so out of 40 games). Obviously it helps to have someone who's good at headers at the near post (like say, a Cavani/Benteke/Modeste type player), but yeah it works often enough and when it doesn't it has a tendency to result in followup corner kicks.

vivisectvnv
Aug 5, 2003

General Dire posted:

Also do you guys not play h2h?

i do a fair bit

Seltzer
Oct 11, 2012

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General Dire posted:

So how do you guys handle corners? The new system seems really weird and I haven't scored a single one yet. Also do you guys not play h2h?

Play it short every single time, shield the ball until the guy who "took" the corner runs by into open space and pass it to him, then start looking for passes in the box. When they get wise about the third time or so break away from the shield towards the byline right when your teammate is going by for a pass (opponent will be following now) and run down the line and pass it to someone to shoot. Now they don't know what you're going to do and you can pretty much pull off either. Corny, frustrating, etc. but normal corners suck.

Seltzer
Oct 11, 2012

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So i'm going to try and guess up some squads for Keita on the off chance EA do a Bundesliga young player SBC. I'm assuming his nation is out the window (no one in the game from guinea really). So I'm thinking turn in a special card of his, high rated bundesliga with RB Leipzig players, 83 rated squad, and for the last one I'm stumped. They could do Austrian league but that would be too cheap. For Donnaruma, I'm just holding the card for resale, all keepers are the same and I'm fine with perin. Anways found this card pic when looking at previous clubs.

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

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From the french EA facebook I guess:





Siggurdson is missing because he's probably gonna be the 24th player, ie, the tournament prize player, which would be very very nice.

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General Dire
Apr 24, 2008
Hey vivisectvnv whats your PSN? Would be nice to get some games in to practice.I'm 19-6 in h2h right now but my defending is awful, a lot of the time even if I'm standing right in front of a winger running down the line he just glides right past me. Any tips to help me out? Also some attacking tips would be nice, if the opponents team gets back in formation I'm often just passing the ball around impotently with no idea of how to create an end product. Much appreciated guys.


edit: The corner advice was helpful but its tricky to pull off that pass to the inside of the box.

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