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MikeC posted:Its was ok, for me in ranked, the B hull 128s have some wierd special penetration values which pretty much beat any armor inferior to 32mm so it can be a lot of damage in the right circumstances. But 7km secondaries are a lot worse than 10.6km Bismarck secondaries. You also have a lot less of them. uhhh. The scharnhorst is a premium and doesn't have hull upgrades. Meanwhile, the scharnhorst is equipped with the gneis a hull. So it has a mix of 150s and 128s.
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JuffoWup posted:uhhh. The scharnhorst is a premium and doesn't have hull upgrades. Meanwhile, the scharnhorst is equipped with the gneis a hull. So it has a mix of 150s and 128s. 150s and 105s. The Gneis B Hull and Kurfurst are the only ones with 128s.
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JuffoWup posted:uhhh. The scharnhorst is a premium and doesn't have hull upgrades. Meanwhile, the scharnhorst is equipped with the gneis a hull. So it has a mix of 150s and 128s. I was typing on my phone and it wiped out the Gneisenau comparison. The B hull reference should have gave it away. Sorry for the confusion. I was trying to give a practical example of what my experience with 7km secondaries was like. edit: So yea, in short even with the special 128s it was "ok" in ranked vs only T7s.
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The German 12.8cm and 15cm secondaries are an exception to the general HE pen rule and have caliber/4 pen on their HE rounds rather than the usual caliber/6, which effectively means they have IFHE built in. The Scharnhorst doesn't have 12.8's though, only 10.5 and 15cm. I guess if you're using your Bismarck captain in it you might consider it, but I agree than it is more of a gimmick than really useful. This post suggests some really loving wacky IFHE builds for German BB's if you're feeling like experimenting. The main guns get caliber/4 HE pen too so there's some potential for wacko HE citadel pens on certain ships, but, eh. TheFluff fucked around with this message at 00:54 on May 16, 2017 |
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TheFluff posted:This post suggests some really loving wacky IFHE builds for German BB's if you're feeling like experimenting. The main guns get caliber/4 HE pen too so there's some potential for wacko HE citadel pens on certain ships, but, eh. I have penned cruisers with Graf Spee main gun HE rounds before. The damage is so small its a waste of time.
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MikeC posted:I have penned cruisers with Graf Spee main gun HE rounds before. The damage is so small its a waste of time. However the secondary damage is significant when you're facing off against the bow in meta. Just watched a game by Aeroon in a kurrywurst where he did 17k secondary damage in HE pens to a Montana that was parked bow in vs him. If you're bow in and they're bow in and you have IFHE and they don't, you can still hurt him while you bounce all of his incoming poo poo.
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I swear, there are more weekend warriors playing tonight than there were on the weekend. Six straight losses with teams full of bots, AFKs and idiots.
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May 16, 2017 02:40
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How often do they do boat sales? I kind of want a boat but I'd like a discount.
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Pretty frequently, but only one or a few at a time. According to the website, Texas and Dunkerque are coming up next on the NA store.
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Since we just got over a massive slapfight about T7 BBs, how about a brand new Colorado commentary by Flamu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiHAjhNWbkg tl;dw Pros: Very maneuverable, Small, Solid torp protection (when combined with above Flamu argues this makes it a lovely target for torps), best heal in game (65% of penetrations) 16inch guns, valid through T9 and can overmatch all the other T7 BBs (In his commentary Flamu just drives straight into a cap and murders everyone, 110k damage in 8 minutes) Cons: Slow as gently caress, easy to punish poor positioning Worst power to weight ratio in the game so it also accelerates like poo poo 25mm armor so it's impossible to angle against other BBs, (he and a colorado trade shots and it's like watching the end of a rocky movie where the two guys are just throwing haymakers at bloody faces) Small overall HP pool Flamu's conclusion: It's a solid T7 ship that's gotten some pretty nice buffs and shouldn't be underestimated even when it's bottom tier. Apparently he also used it for ranked.
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According to 0.6.5 patch notes Warspite getting its base turret traverse buffed from 72s to 54.5s  Ice Fist posted:best heal in game (65% of penetrations)
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Insert name here posted:According to 0.6.5 patch notes Warspite getting its base turret traverse buffed from 72s to 54.5s Then Flamu is wrong. He outright says that the Colorado heals better (specifically mentioning 65% vs. the Warspite's 60%). Not trying to be argumentative, just pointing out that that nugget of information was not something I interpolated or came up with myself. Straight from the horse's mouth.
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It's apples and oranges. The Warspite heals more % of its hitpoint pool, but the Colorado can potentially heal 65% of penetration damage which is better than most other BB, though it might take more heal charges.
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Blindeye posted:It's apples and oranges. The Warspite heals more % of its hitpoint pool, but the Colorado can potentially heal 65% of penetration damage which is better than most other BB, though it might take more heal charges. Ice Fist posted:Then Flamu is wrong. He outright says that the Colorado heals better (specifically mentioning 65% vs. the Warspite's 60%).
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Insert name here posted:According to 0.6.5 patch notes Warspite getting its base turret traverse buffed from 72s to 54.5s  Also something about a T6 premium French cruiser on the way.
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May 16, 2017 18:04
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Ice Fist posted:Since we just got over a massive slapfight about T7 BBs, how about a brand new Colorado commentary by Flamu: Pretty sure he executed an EU goon in that vid, because wargaming Europe didn't have any problems with someone registering GOON
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May 16, 2017 18:08
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P. sure I've seen [GOON] tags on the NA server.
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Sperglord Actual posted:P. sure I've seen [GOON] tags on the NA server. On na iirc goon was snatched by pubbies.
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Yep, [GOON] is the EU clan and failurecascade is in it.
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orange juche posted:On na iirc goon was snatched by pubbies. Figures. BTW is there a way to tell if a player has changed their name?
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Yeah, it's failurecascade. So, the Hunt for the Bismarck missions... Seem pretty doable, and outright easy if you have a Hood.
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TheFluff posted:Yep, [GOON] is the EU clan and failurecascade is in it. As clan commander I decree that failurecascade must commit seppuku for this shameful performance.
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El_Molestadore posted:As clan commander I decree that failurecascade must commit seppuku for this shameful performance. I apologize for outing failurecascade. But not really.
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Need to start working on storing enough willpower to avoid getting bent over to the tune of 100 CDN for the Hood. Why couldn't they just keep the ship mediocre and let us earn it like the Graf Spee
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Ice Fist posted:Since we just got over a massive slapfight about T7 BBs, how about a brand new Colorado commentary by Flamu: One team gets Flamu in a top tier BB, the other gets three loving retards who think hiding on the 10 line in their battleships is a good idea in a Domination match. Holy hell do I hate pubbies. I know it happens on the NA server plenty too, but I've gotten the impression it's even more common on EU. Is that accurate?
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It is extremely common on EU. It is getting worse by the week. Cant compare with US as I haven't played there Krogort fucked around with this message at 22:00 on May 16, 2017 |
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Cippalippus posted:Yeah, it's failurecascade. I was actually looking for the Hood in the shop to see how it was, but it isn't there yet. 
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Repurchased the New Orleans and used my Arizona to speed-retrain its captain. Now to grind silver until I can afford the modules. 
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Sperglord Actual posted:Repurchased the New Orleans and used my Arizona to speed-retrain its captain. Now to grind silver until I can afford the modules. I bounced my New Orleans captain between the Arizona, Texas, Sims, Smith (which is awful btw), and finally ticked the 14th skill point and picked AFT because....I wanted to also use him in the Atlanta.
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NerdyMcNerdNerd posted:I was actually looking for the Hood in the shop to see how it was, but it isn't there yet. Try checking near the Denmark Strait.  Though, looking at the full mission list makes it seem pretty easy overall. More dependent on RNG to give you the medals for that collection perhaps.
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 Wackiest match of the month for sure. The close quarters expert is from killing a Kiev of all things, while the torpedo hits are from a yolo point blank torp kill on a Bismarck. Would've been a Kraken too but the match ended on time before my shots landed on their last ship. TheFluff fucked around with this message at 00:11 on May 17, 2017 |
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rex rabidorum vires posted:I bounced my New Orleans captain between the Arizona, Texas, Sims, Smith (which is awful btw), and finally ticked the 14th skill point and picked AFT because....I wanted to also use him in the Atlanta. I went with AFT + CE because I've learned the hard way never to rely on 'friendly' CVs.
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Insert name here posted:According to 0.6.5 patch notes Warspite getting its base turret traverse buffed from 72s to 54.5s Just saw that, it's going to be good.
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Enterprise is 2/2/2 on supertest, with 5 plane squadrons. This cannot possibly go wrong
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TheFluff posted:Enterprise is 2/2/2 on supertest, with 5 plane squadrons. This cannot possibly go wrong On one hand: Wow, that essentially makes the Shokaku obsolete. On the other hand: The reserve is tiny (you get only one spare TB squad per squad) and unlike the Saipan the planes are even tier, so it looks like you're gonna have to really baby your planes in it since they're not overleveled or disposable, like on a Japanese carrier. Edit: also the surface detect range is crap compared to Japanese carriers so good luck trying to hide if you got caught out of position. Triggerhappypilot fucked around with this message at 20:28 on May 17, 2017 |
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OK so I am pretty bad at killing carriers. I generally play a DD, and sometimes I'll slink my way around the map and catch a carrier unprotected. What's the generally recommended way of attacking these things? Currently I've been hitting them with HE to try to light them on fire and deny use of the aircraft. If I get close enough or light them on fire, I'll switch to AP and just try for citadels until I get close enough for torpedoes.
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turn it up TURN ME ON posted:OK so I am pretty bad at killing carriers. I generally play a DD, and sometimes I'll slink my way around the map and catch a carrier unprotected. What's the generally recommended way of attacking these things? Currently I've been hitting them with HE to try to light them on fire and deny use of the aircraft. If I get close enough or light them on fire, I'll switch to AP and just try for citadels until I get close enough for torpedoes. You are pretty much doing it right. If you are not spotted, do not fire. Poor on lots of HE to start fires. If on fire, use AP as long as you aren't over penning. If the fire goes out or expires, fire up the HE again. Shoot torps when you have a good chance of them connecting.
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TheFluff posted:Enterprise is 2/2/2 on supertest, with 5 plane squadrons. This cannot possibly go wrong *five* fighter squads in reserve vs only 2 for the Torpedo Bombers is 
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So CE or AFT for my first tier 4 skill on the Ognevoi?
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