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Xenomrph posted:Well it can't be any worse than the CGI in Alien3, I mean come on Hahaha. Anyone who says you're a bad poster is wrong.
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Due to precedent, I'd actually be surprised if the shots in questions weren't actually practical effects. No disrespect or anything, it just seems to happen every time.
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May 17, 2017 11:29
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Shaocaholica posted:So the alien only kills people if they pose a threat. Otherwise it will try to capture them? Or kill and eat? What does the extended universe say? Alien3 alien seemed to like to nibble on people but also killed quite a few unarmed english men. Real answer: Whatever the writer/director wants. My personal headcannon is still stuck in the old "the aliens are bioweapons created by the space jockeys" way of thinking. It makes sense that they're designed to be very efficient killers, so much so that sometimes that gets in the way of their life cycle. If not threatened or hungry they will certainly try to capture people, but that can end up with an impossibly strong razortaloned alien halfway succeeding in pulling a human through a much too small air duct.
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May 17, 2017 13:41
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Biomute posted:Real answer: Whatever the writer/director wants. Trying to use uncontrollable space demons as weapons has never made a lick of sense. It was just a plot device to have smirking corporate scum act malevolently. AC was an ok film.
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May 17, 2017 13:47
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BeigeJacket posted:Trying to use uncontrollable space demons as weapons has never made a lick of sense. It was just a plot device to have smirking corporate scum act malevolently. I mean even Alien told you that because the jockey in the seat who is presumably supposed to be in some control over these bioweapons had his own chest bursted
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They weren't weapons in Alien when taken out of context of the other movies though. The implication is that the aliens infected the jockey ship and caught them off guard. Then the same thing happens with the Nostromo crew.
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May 17, 2017 14:28
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Donnerberg posted:They weren't weapons in Alien when taken out of context of the other movies though. The implication is that the aliens infected the jockey ship and caught them off guard. Then the same thing happens with the Nostromo crew. And then just happened to lay their eggs in an exact grid and pattern in what looks like some kind of incubator? Face it, they were always bioweapons. The other, funnier scenario, is if the xenomorphs were part of the jockeys' own lifecycle. VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE fucked around with this message at 15:06 on May 17, 2017 |
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May 17, 2017 15:03
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Well it can't be worse than Prometheus, right? Ridley already hit the bottom.
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Tenzarin posted:Well it can't be worse than Prometheus, right? Ridley already hit the bottom. If the Merry Men actually had to fight xenomorphs, then the movie wouldn't be considered the bottom.
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Like a Robin Hood vs Aliens movie? I have no idea what you are describing. I just trying to grasp what you meant. I found a better picture, and I hid an alien in it. Can you see it? 
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May 17, 2017 15:45
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Researching the lifecycle of the Xenomorph could probably inform all sorts of horrific bioweapons without WY intending to straight up drop alien eggs on their opponents. The expanded universe, for better or worse, has just interpreted it that way. Aeronautical engineers have used the anatomy and behaviour of birds to make all sorts of improvements to planes without turning those planes into ornithopters.
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May 17, 2017 16:21
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I'm talking about Ridley Scott's Robin Hood war movie that flopped and no one really likes, as opposed to Prometheus which actually has fans and was not another attempt by him to repeat the success of Gladiator.
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The MSJ posted:repeat the success of Gladiator. He'd be able to if they used the Gladiator sequel script
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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:And then just happened to lay their eggs in an exact grid and pattern They didnt. Watch the scene again theyre just kinda all over the place.
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The MSJ posted:I'm talking about Ridley Scott's Robin Hood war movie that flopped and no one really likes, as opposed to Prometheus which actually has fans and was not another attempt by him to repeat the success of Gladiator. The original script for that movie was really solid. Shame it got mulched along the way.
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BeigeJacket posted:Trying to use uncontrollable space demons as weapons has never made a lick of sense. It was just a plot device to have smirking corporate scum act malevolently. Aliens make perfect sense as a bioweapon when you consider colonies as a thing. They' wouldn't be a threat on Earth (I don't care what the stupid comics say) but Hadley's Hope is a pretty great example of how an isolated colony would be a ripe breeding ground and all you'd need to do is smuggle in a few facehuggers. Which is utterly horrific but considering Burke was willing to write off an entire colony and thought it would get him a promotion appears to be an actual branch of their business.
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banned from Starbucks posted:They didnt. Watch the scene again theyre just kinda all over the place. I was gonna point this out, and it's a misconception that I see pretty often - the eggs in both 'Alien' and 'Aliens' are scattered very similarly. 
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ImpAtom posted:Aliens make perfect sense as a bioweapon when you consider colonies as a thing. They' wouldn't be a threat on Earth (I don't care what the stupid comics say) but Hadley's Hope is a pretty great example of how an isolated colony would be a ripe breeding ground and all you'd need to do is smuggle in a few facehuggers. Which is utterly horrific but considering Burke was willing to write off an entire colony and thought it would get him a promotion appears to be an actual branch of their business. And then you've got a colony full of rampaging monsters to deal with. If the intention is to take over the resources, or re-assert authority, it seems like an incredibly wasteful way to go about it. Its the future, I'm sure they've got some fancy toxins that could wipe out a few hundred/thousand irritants that would just turns their organs to paste or whatever. Hell, we've got that tech now. As mentioned earlier, it was just a plot device from the first film - a reason for one of the crew members to act like a scallywag. I'm fine with that honestly.
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Xenomrph posted:I was gonna point this out, and it's a misconception that I see pretty often - the eggs in both 'Alien' and 'Aliens' are scattered very similarly. That's interesting. In that shot it doesn't look so much like the eggs were laid, more like they were grown. Like they are the mushrooms/flowers sprouting from a mat of bio-mass. For all we know the ship could have been carrying black goo or something and whatever organic matter or passengers in that lower hold were egg-morphed.
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All of this dunking on Prometheus and how this movie is a failure just like it makes me want to see it even more. I also like the idea of this movie somehow having really bad CGI.
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SleepCousinDeath posted:I also like the idea of this movie somehow having really bad CGI. And be talked about usurping Alien 3 at it too!
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Gorn Myson posted:"Here are some pictures of some tie-in toys" Not until next month.
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Seeing it tonight. Only ever saw first Alien which is a really good movie, but I don't have any real "bond" to it as so many others seem to have. Expect I'll like this one well enough.
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Xenomrph posted:I was gonna point this out, and it's a misconception that I see pretty often - the eggs in both 'Alien' and 'Aliens' are scattered very similarly. This shot stands out as having nothing to do with Prometheus since Ridley swapped the eggs for vases. I still like Prometheus. Whatever. I like where Prometheus and AC(hopefully) is going, continuity logic be dammed at this point.
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BigglesSWE posted:Seeing it tonight. Only ever saw first Alien which is a really good movie, but I don't have any real "bond" to it as so many others seem to have. Expect I'll like this one well enough. There are other good Alien movies that you should check out, as well. I hear the assembly cut of the third one is loving awesome.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_kr8mAM5Dg It's call creature effects people. Alien3 didn't have any CGI. Creature effects. Inclusive of CGI but not exclusively CGI. Shaocaholica fucked around with this message at 20:18 on May 17, 2017 |
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May 17, 2017 20:08
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Dan O'Bannon's story about seeing Alien for the first time is beautiful.
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ImpAtom posted:Aliens make perfect sense as a bioweapon when you consider colonies as a thing. They' wouldn't be a threat on Earth (I don't care what the stupid comics say) but Hadley's Hope is a pretty great example of how an isolated colony would be a ripe breeding ground and all you'd need to do is smuggle in a few facehuggers. Which is utterly horrific but considering Burke was willing to write off an entire colony and thought it would get him a promotion appears to be an actual branch of their business.
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CelticPredator posted:Dan O'Bannon's story about seeing Alien for the first time is beautiful. Where can one read about that?
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The Alien Anthology Blu Ray set, the making of Alien.
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How would a Xenomorph lay an egg anyway? Do they just spit them out? Or do Xenos squat like a pooping dog?
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Leavemywife posted:How would a Xenomorph lay an egg anyway? Do they just spit them out? Or do Xenos squat like a pooping dog? Have you not watched the movies? It comes out the bum.
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Facehugger eggs always seemed way too big. Like a bird egg will be pretty much 100% bird by the time it hatches, but alien eggs are these huge thick padded things with this little guy inside. Seems very material/space inefficient for the "perfect organism"
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Leavemywife posted:How would a Xenomorph lay an egg anyway? Do they just spit them out? Or do Xenos squat like a pooping dog? The Queen lay sit from an egg sac, the non-queens apparently turn corpses into eggs.
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Baronjutter posted:Facehugger eggs always seemed way too big. Like a bird egg will be pretty much 100% bird by the time it hatches, but alien eggs are these huge thick padded things with this little guy inside. Seems very material/space inefficient for the "perfect organism" They apparently can last for thousands of years and still have a living creature inside. That egg has to be tough.
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ImpAtom posted:The Queen lay sit from an egg sac, the non-queens apparently turn corpses into eggs. Incredibly, I didn't think about the Queen when I asked that question. 
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The aliens should like run around with eggs attached to their shoulders or back and shoot out face huggers like rockets or mortars.
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Plavski posted:They apparently can last for thousands of years and still have a living creature inside. That egg has to be tough. That would make sense, most of the egg is actually more like a bio-tech stasis module and host-detector.
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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:And then just happened to lay their eggs in an exact grid and pattern in what looks like some kind of incubator? Face it, they were always bioweapons. VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE adjusts his tinfoil hat and surveys his writing. "BEEHIVES ARE MAN-MADE", written in 2-foot high letters scrawled on the blackboard. It's missing something. Chuckling softly he underscores his grand work with two more words: "PERFECT HEXAGONS". He nods, smiling.
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Tenzarin posted:The aliens should like run around with eggs attached to their shoulders or back and shoot out face huggers like rockets or mortars. In the AvP Extinction RTS game, the Aliens have a unit that literally does this (and it's loving hilarious).
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