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Dva seems like.a more obnoxious murky that doesn't need lvl 20 to become tanky.
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Here's a hot tip: If you're in a premade with four other people and all of you are in Discord, actually use it to communicate with each other instead of spam pinging and hoping anyone understands you!
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May 18, 2017 04:18
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SKULL.GIF posted:I'm not sure D.Va is actually tagged as a warrior under the matchmaking rules. I've been running into QM compositions that are Tank + D.Va vs Tank all day long. D.VA is tagged as a bruiser, not a tank, like the other non-tank warriors e-g sonya.
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May 18, 2017 04:20
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Got called a "douchebag" for not soloing all 5 of the enemy team obliterating our core and instead electing to stay in the fountain
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May 18, 2017 04:22
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The Shortest Path posted:Here's a hot tip: If you're in a premade with four other people and all of you are in Discord, actually use it to communicate with each other instead of spam pinging and hoping anyone understands you! Do both. It helps the pub and someone might not catch what you said.
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May 18, 2017 04:22
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Coolness Averted posted:Do both. It helps the pub and someone might not catch what you said. He meant if you're a 5 stack
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May 18, 2017 04:25
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Poultron posted:He meant if you're a 5 stack
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May 18, 2017 04:35
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Poultron posted:Got called a "douchebag" for not soloing all 5 of the enemy team obliterating our core and instead electing to stay in the fountain You could have killed a few minions for more end of game xp you piece of poo poo.
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May 18, 2017 04:36
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Wolfy posted:Still do both. This.
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May 18, 2017 04:36
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Wolfy posted:Still do both. Sure, but when you're in a full premade and nobody says anything ever it's pretty depressing. 
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May 18, 2017 04:37
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I find pinging "I'm on my way there" is a lot more helpful than me saying "I'm on my way down bot to *person*" helps keep the channel clear in case someone has something more important to say like a joke.
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May 18, 2017 04:47
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Oh Snapple! posted:You could have killed a few minions for more end of game xp you piece of poo poo. drat I guess I was a douchebag after all
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May 18, 2017 04:48
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Minrad posted:https://fat.gfycat.com/JovialImportantArmedcrab.webm We're not trapped in here with you, you're trapped in here with us. 
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May 18, 2017 06:00
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The Shortest Path posted:Sure, but when you're in a full premade and nobody says anything ever it's pretty depressing. i see you have discovered the fabled "playing with goons" experience
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May 18, 2017 06:07
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Poultron posted:Got called a "douchebag" for not soloing all 5 of the enemy team obliterating our core and instead electing to stay in the fountain Die with honor.
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May 18, 2017 06:17
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Ein Sexmonster posted:I think so yea. It has not, sadly. It's very frustrating, and I'm trying hard to be patient instead of salty.
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May 18, 2017 07:40
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Poultron posted:Got called a "douchebag" for not soloing all 5 of the enemy team obliterating our core and instead electing to stay in the fountain Let's see what the flowchart says what to do: 
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May 18, 2017 08:00
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The Shortest Path posted:Sure, but when you're in a full premade and nobody says anything ever it's pretty depressing.
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May 18, 2017 09:06
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Minrad posted:35 minute long game Maybe we played the same game? Had a 35 minute game with a goon and some others yesterday, I got even more experience since it was my first win that day. Coming from Dota 2, it seems people here have the exact same problem with taking objectives and finishing games when ahead. Also had a game with a goonstack yesterday on Hanamura, we were down 4-1 and they won a few teamfights decisively. But they kept doing nothing when they did, maybe take some camps or who knows. So we manage to get to 2-1, and then we wipe their whole team. As we kill the boss, our last payload spawns, so one of us pushes it while the rest stay on boss. Ended up winning, even if they had two payloads up and had dominated us for most of the game. Felt good!
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May 18, 2017 09:09
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The only silent games I've had were a complete stomp because there was nothing to call out we just walked over them
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May 18, 2017 14:02
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Fellatio del Toro posted:So Lunara seems pretty great against D.Va. You can just kite her mech form around forever and then blow up the pilot with Leaping Strikes A D.Va playing against Lunara definitely needs to take Ablative Armor at 13 and even then you can't really stand around and eat poison outside of D-Matrix. Not the kind of hero you should be 1v1ing.
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May 18, 2017 14:05
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Sjonkel posted:Maybe we played the same game? Had a 35 minute game with a goon and some others yesterday, I got even more experience since it was my first win that day.
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May 18, 2017 14:15
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exquisite tea posted:A D.Va playing against Lunara definitely needs to take Ablative Armor at 13 and even then you can't really stand around and eat poison outside of D-Matrix. Not the kind of hero you should be 1v1ing. Is there really anyone she can/should be 1v1ing though? She's a big noisy distruptor but not really killy.
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May 18, 2017 14:27
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Dva can catch out some mages or stragglers, but her problems with moving around the map at large means that yeah she'll just be at wherever the team fights are going to be
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May 18, 2017 14:42
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GenericOverusedName posted:Is there really anyone she can/should be 1v1ing though? She's a big noisy distruptor but not really killy. You can surprise a squishy caster with no escape like Jaina or Chromie but it's not really something you should be doing since she most excels at breaking up groups. Her level 20 evolution to Bunny Hop puts out a pretty scary amount of damage to heroes and structures. SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Dva can catch out some mages or stragglers, but her problems with moving around the map at large means that yeah she'll just be at wherever the team fights are going to be That's why I always take Rush-down at tier 1. Having boosters on a 5-sec cooldown helps out her mobility so much when getting to objectives + team fights.
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May 18, 2017 14:47
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Bahumbug, 8 losses tonight. Some of the games were because we had team mates who either AFK'd or kept disconnecting or wanted to spend more time blaming someone else instead of at least soaking XP. Tonight has been rather unfun with the toxic nerds. Last game was fun though even though we threw in the end. One day I'll win against a Cho'Gall... one day.
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May 18, 2017 14:53
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Spudd posted:One day I'll win against a Cho'Gall... one day. Just counter-pick him with Leoric, Tychus, or literally anyone with Giant Killer.
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May 18, 2017 15:13
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Lemon-Lime posted:Just counter-pick him with Leoric, Tychus, or literally anyone with Giant Killer. I play quick match mainly so that's my fault. I just don't like the drafting stage, for some reason I get super anxious. I'm an incredibly anxious man irl so it probably has to do with that. Arthas still does some serious loving damage against him though it was disgusting.
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May 18, 2017 15:23
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Yesterday had a 40 minute shrines game. We dominated early but right before we could close it out we fell apart, couldn't get a pick or win a teamfight after that. They had Samuel and Zul'jin and just deleted us too fast. We won a couple of publishers but they pounced and 2 or 3 for 0'd us right after so it was wasted. Fortunately it was 6 forts to 0 at the time we stepped on our dicks so eventually minions just won it for us.
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May 18, 2017 15:33
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Sjonkel posted:Maybe we played the same game? Had a 35 minute game with a goon and some others yesterday, I got even more experience since it was my first win that day. hanamura is bullshit if you have less than a 4-5 group for exactly this reason, you can be as dominant as you want but if joe q pubbie wants to go gently caress a tower camp while the enemy pushes the payload then theres sweet gently caress all you can do about it, even if youve been dominant all game and smashed all their forts etc
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May 18, 2017 15:41
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I've found my new strategy on Hanamura is actually to just get my team to push a lane to death even when the opponent is pushing payloads and not worry about payloads early on because once you get a keep down the catapults in every single wave and 3X payload on the map the enemy team falls apart
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May 18, 2017 15:48
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I imagine that strat would fall apart if they have Kael'Thas worth their weight. He could just tear every single wave down so you would need to be tanking tower shots. Granted you could pick Sylvanas to counter that but then you're stuck with a Sylvanas on Hanamura.
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May 18, 2017 15:50
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Spudd posted:I imagine that strat would fall apart if they have Kael'Thas worth their weight. He could just tear every single wave down so you would need to be tanking tower shots. Probably at a good ELO ya. e; at my ELO kael is always banned anyway
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May 18, 2017 15:52
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There's nothing wrong with a Sylv on Hanamura. It's just a tower pushing map disguised as the payload somehow being more important. It's actually kind of depressing how little PvP even matters.
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Maybe I'm understanding the map incorrectly, to be fair I don't play enough of it and whenever I win or lose I actually say outloud "Oh it's over... how?"
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exquisite tea posted:There's nothing wrong with a Sylv on Hanamura. It's just a tower pushing map disguised as the payload somehow being more important. It's actually kind of depressing how little PvP even matters. Conveniently, here's a detailed analysis on how to dominate Hanamura as a 5-stack, feat. Sylvanas! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aJNRJNFpJ0 tl;dr draft double support with someone to enable siege (sylvanas, hammer, et al) and just fuckin slam down the lanes as 5 until you have a 5 damage shot, then you can almost instantly win with the two starting payloads if you escort one sapper wave to the core.
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Spudd posted:Maybe I'm understanding the map incorrectly, to be fair I don't play enough of it and whenever I win or lose I actually say outloud "Oh it's over... how?" 1. Destroying forts empowers the next payload to do +1 more core damage. 2. A single empowered payload is therefore twice as good as dutifully moving the payload when it spawns. 3. Payloads are up for almost forever and it's almost impossible to stop or fully delay the enemy eventually moving it while controlling the map. Therefore the optimal way to play is just to ignore PvP and rush towers, empower your first two payloads, and ensure the enemy will never be able to come back. It's incredibly stupid.
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HelixFox posted:Conveniently, here's a detailed analysis on how to dominate Hanamura as a 5-stack, feat. Sylvanas! Hanamura is a god awful map with too many objectives and the fact that the optimal way to win it is with some bullshit like this is part of the problem. Spudd posted:Maybe I'm understanding the map incorrectly, to be fair I don't play enough of it and whenever I win or lose I actually say outloud "Oh it's over... how?" This is probably 7 out of every 10 players on any given round of Hanamura so don't beat yourself up.
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I still like Hanamura, but forts need to be either much harder to take or much less rewarding.
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exquisite tea posted:1. Destroying forts empowers the next payload to do +1 more core damage. Sounds cool. I don't understand how Push to the Core would lead to ignoring PvP unless the enemy is determined to lose or something though
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