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Well Hojo doesnt have a stupid loser idiot gimmick so her 10 years in nxt before she gets released should be fine
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I have no idea who Hojo is, apparently she has a pirate gimmick and Macho Man's old finisher and people get rather pissy about her. What makes her better than the last failed pirate in the WWE, Winston Burchill?
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May 18, 2017 10:30
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Grendels Dad posted:I have no idea who Hojo is, apparently she has a pirate gimmick and Macho Man's old finisher and people get rather pissy about her. What makes her better than the last failed pirate in the WWE, Winston Burchill? She has invested a lot (time and money) into her gimmick, unlike Paul Burchill. Also as for why you should know her, shes legitimately the second or third best female wrestler in the world. The only people I would put above her are Io Shirai and maybe Mayu Iwatani.
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May 18, 2017 10:38
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DarkstarIV posted:She has invested a lot (time and money) into her gimmick, unlike Paul Burchill. Also as for why you should know her, shes legitimately the second or third best female wrestler in the world. The only people I would put above her are Io Shirai and maybe Mayu Iwatani. It's good to know that she's good, I've checked out a match of hers on Youtube and she seemed impressive. On the other hand I don't care much for best in the world-lists because I vaguely remember Sasha Banks being called that at one point or another and look at her now. Also, I haven't seen anything in that match that necessitates a pirate gimmick, so while it's cool that she has a gimmick she is personally invested in, I find it a weird hill to die on. If she has the talent and enthusiasm to make a pirate gimmick awesome, she can make other gimmicks awesome.
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May 18, 2017 10:53
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DarkstarIV posted:She has invested a lot (time and money) into her gimmick, unlike Paul Burchill. Also as for why you should know her, shes legitimately the second or third best female wrestler in the world. The only people I would put above her are Io Shirai and maybe Mayu Iwatani. asuka's better than hojo i'd say, although a good bit older. after signing shirai and hojo though, wwe has probably 3 of the 5 best women's wrestlers in the world. becky lynch is probably the best they have, as far as westerners/"home grown" go. i just hope that shirai and hojo don't hang out in nxt too long, they're absolutely good enough for the main show.
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May 18, 2017 10:53
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Grendels Dad posted:I have no idea who Hojo is, apparently she has a pirate gimmick and Macho Man's old finisher and people get rather pissy about her. What makes her better than the last failed pirate in the WWE, Winston Burchill? gently caress you Burchill was amazing.
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May 18, 2017 11:33
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I wouldn't bitch about Hojo's elbow until I see her do a different finisher. Nothing is set in stone yet, even if Dave is reporting on it.
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May 18, 2017 12:01
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Vaguido posted:I wouldn't bitch about Hojo's elbow until I see her do a different finisher. Nothing is set in stone yet, even if Dave is reporting on it.
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May 18, 2017 12:16
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achillesforever6 posted:Same, has Bayley even won moves off her bad elbow drop? Apparently she won at Wrestlemania with it.
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May 18, 2017 12:18
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just do the same move and insist that it's a flying rib smash
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May 18, 2017 12:34
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HUGE FLYING FOREARM DROP!!!
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May 18, 2017 12:38
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Yorkshire Tea posted:gently caress you Burchill was amazing. The most amazing and also the least surprising thing about Burchill was that apparently Vince hadn't heard about Pirates of the Caribbean until way after Burchill did his pirate thing. Vince was probably "Yeah sure why not" when he was approached about the gimmick.
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May 18, 2017 12:49
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Grendels Dad posted:The most amazing and also the least surprising thing about Burchill was that apparently Vince hadn't heard about Pirates of the Caribbean until way after Burchill did his pirate thing. Vince was probably "Yeah sure why not" when he was approached about the gimmick. Burchill's pirate gimmick was okay overall, until Vince decided to repackage him into a supposed incest couple with Katie Lea. At least that's what I heard.
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May 18, 2017 12:51
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DarkstarIV posted:Burchill's pirate gimmick was okay overall, until Vince decided to repackage him into a supposed incest couple with Katie Lea. At least that's what I heard. I vaguely remember watching at the time, and being nonplussed by the outrage. This is one of those cases where Vince's capacity for gross weirdness overshadowed what was visible on screen. Now imagine what happens when Vince discovers Game of Thrones.
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May 18, 2017 12:54
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Speaking of STARDOM talent coming over, Dave's also thinking that Io Shirai won't be in the Womens Tournament, mostly due to timing issues. She just recently signed, has yet to announce her farewell (but the announcement will probably be soon, as she was just replaced as head trainer at STARDOM's training camps), do her farewell tour, and drop their big title. Can't really blame WWE for this one.
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May 18, 2017 13:04
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Trip Larsen posted:Push Erick Rowan to the loving moon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGlcT93IbKk 
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May 18, 2017 13:20
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Grendels Dad posted:The most amazing and also the least surprising thing about Burchill was that apparently Vince hadn't heard about Pirates of the Caribbean until way after Burchill did his pirate thing. Vince was probably "Yeah sure why not" when he was approached about the gimmick. he had, for gently caress sake.
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May 18, 2017 13:24
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RacistGuidingLight posted:he had, for gently caress sake. this post reads like a god drat ketchup steak wrap
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May 18, 2017 13:27
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RacistGuidingLight posted:he had, for gently caress sake. Calm down. The way I remember reading it (on here, btw) was that Burchill had seen the movie/was aware of the movie's success, suggested the gimmick, and it got greenlighted even though Vince had no idea pirates were in at the time. If that's not the case I'll try to remember that, but it's also 100% less funny.
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May 18, 2017 13:28
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Grendels Dad posted:It's good to know that she's good, I've checked out a match of hers on Youtube and she seemed impressive. On the other hand I don't care much for best in the world-lists because I vaguely remember Sasha Banks being called that at one point or another and look at her now. Also, I haven't seen anything in that match that necessitates a pirate gimmick, so while it's cool that she has a gimmick she is personally invested in, I find it a weird hill to die on. If she has the talent and enthusiasm to make a pirate gimmick awesome, she can make other gimmicks awesome. Someone earlier said it's not really a full gimmick since she's not meant to be portraying a pirate or anything. She's just a wrestler who likes pirate stuff. Kind of like Becky with the steampunk I guess.
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May 18, 2017 13:31
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rebecca is a real steam punk.
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May 18, 2017 13:36
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Besides The Brian Kendrick is already a pirate.
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Grendels Dad posted:Now imagine what happens when Vince discovers Game of Thrones. the Red Wedding would be like.
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May 18, 2017 13:46
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NXT is good.
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May 18, 2017 13:46
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Eli Wiggum posted:I'm trying to imagine what Vince's version of 
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May 18, 2017 13:53
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I posted this before, but for anyone who wants to see Shirai and Hojo compete, here it is again. A fairly recent match that is great. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k7uy8HqaL8Hab5mmPk4 I'm sorta hoping their rivalry carries over into WWE. They are pretty much the female versions of Sami Zayn and Kevin Owens, feud wise. (at least before WWE) DarkstarIV fucked around with this message at 14:00 on May 18, 2017 |
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May 18, 2017 13:55
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May 18, 2017 13:55
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Aphrodite posted:Someone earlier said it's not really a full gimmick since she's not meant to be portraying a pirate or anything. She's just a wrestler who likes pirate stuff. Her shirt that says "I am real pirate" would beg to differ 
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May 18, 2017 14:09
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Grendels Dad posted:Calm down. My vague memory is that Burchill pitched it with Johnny Depp in mind, and Vince was thinking of Douglas Fairbanks.
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May 18, 2017 14:33
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DarkstarIV posted:This week in news that should shock you but won't: Kairi Hojo won't be allowed to do the elbow drop because it is Bayley's move, according to WWE. At least thats what Dave is saying. gently caress this
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May 18, 2017 15:41
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does reduced ability for creative, outdated thinking, or decrease in match quality really come as a surprise about anyone who signs with the fed
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May 18, 2017 16:00
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this company turns everyone they sign into a family friendly nutrient slurry devoid of any excitement, why would it ever change
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May 18, 2017 16:05
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the elbow drop thing makes no sense to me finn and seth both do slingblades seth and fandango both do falcon arrows (and apparently its fandango's finisher!) seth and owens both do frog splashes like half the roster does superkicks as a signature or finisher
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May 18, 2017 16:10
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Fire Seth, do more elbow drops.
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May 18, 2017 16:13
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I sent the elbow thing in to Dave, claiming that Dewey Foley had said it. never expected it to come across as reliable information
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May 18, 2017 16:17
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I don't know if we still talk about wrestling dreams we've had, but I had a doozy last night and I don't know what it means. So, Randy Orton was fighting someone in the ring and I don't remember all of the details about that, but then Paul Bearer walked out onto the stage. And it was like that time Kane returned and blew the roof off of the place. So Paul Bearer walks out in his little red coat, and the place starts going ballistic and out comes another Randy Orton except he's in the style of Kane. And then, for whatever reason, another Randy Orton comes out but he has bright white hair and a robe and he's very clearly a version in the style of Ric Flair. And he's strutting and everything. And that's basically all I remember but I really hope this happens at Backlash to even the odds against Jinder and the Bollywood Boyz.
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May 18, 2017 16:21
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Eli Wiggum posted:I'm trying to imagine what Vince's version of 
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Eli Wiggum posted:I'm trying to imagine what Vince's version of Wrestlemania 32
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May 18, 2017 17:13
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TERRIBLE SHITLORD posted:This match is probably going to have a similar mortality rate.
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TERRIBLE SHITLORD posted:This match is probably going to have a similar mortality rate. It's going to kill more than the Red Wedding since it'll kill an entire crowd, not including the people watching at home.
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