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Snipee posted:Guys, they only kissed. There has been no loving in this show. The previous episode started off exactly where the previous one had stopped, leaving no room for offscreen sex. The romance is still gross, but we don't need to make poo poo up. That's why this season is bad. It lacks a twist. And the twist is full penetration.
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The reason why Samurai Jack season 2 took ten years to create is because Genndy spent too long fapping over Ashi. And then last minute he had to tie together the decades worth of spank bank stories he had invested Ashi's characterization into something that would fit into a single episode.
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Incoming "if i were genndy": -After the escape from the beast Id have them go their seperate ways, throw a slightly cliche "need to find my own way for a while" from Ashi, Jack is left with sliver of more hope. -said sliver summarily crushed next episode as alien children are knocked out and he murders not-sundowner in a hot rage. Cue ghost samurai. -Ashi travels round, inevitably running into the people and places jack helped, meets elderly scotsman, "Lass, im an old man, and id like to see my dearest friend one last time, would ye help me find him." Meanwhile, Scaramouche. -Ashi and scotsman find Jack about to do himself in, they fight the ghost, scotsman gets killed, ashi gets overwhelmed by thing she cant hit, CELTIC MAGIC GHOST DUEL, they save Jack. Hes still depressed as hell tho, but a good old scotsman insult reminding him what he did snaps him out of it, alongside Ashi saying she believes him now. Lets get that sword. -Scotsman is off back home, Ashi accompanies jack to meditation spot. Id keep the goats thing. Jack does his thing and ashi fights the cultist army lead by cult mom. Angry jack knocks the tea out the monks mouth when he says teas terrible. Same time Ashi is getting worn out and is down to last few including mom. End episode. Yes i would have the tea ceremony last all episode dont judge me. -Ashi fights mom in extended back and forth as Jack battles angry jack in the same way, he eventually does the persona thing and accepts him and his failures as part of himself and the path and choices he took, meanwhile ashi is fighting to standstill with mom but id have the dialogue be less about Jack and more about Aku being UNSPEAKABLY EVIL, the monk acknowldges jacks balance, and pulls the sword out of ball of light on jacks chest, just as Ashi and mom do the showdown cut. Cut back to Ashi completely worn out but triumphant, Jack helps her up. "What do you do now" "Now i must finally end this nightmare and destroy aku" "Id gladly help". Cut to scaramouche getting to Aku, end on the dance. -Jack and Ashi travel, come across the graveyard of champions where the guardian is, hes not dead, but hes emaciated and in rags. Aku could not defeat him nor the guardian could Aku, but Aku managed to destroy the pillar nonetheless, leaving the guardian without purpose. Guardian invites Jack to one last duel, saying that he needs to know before he goes, that she was not foretold.They fight and jack wins. Guardian smiles and dies, getting reabsorbed into the remnants of the pillar. "Awwww, FOOLISH SAMURAI LOST HIS SWORD?" "aku!" cue the same as this last episode. tl;dr: Its probably poo poo Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 22:35 on May 17, 2017 |
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May 17, 2017 22:16
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Well Manicured Man posted:The latest episode just makes it even clearer how much more appropriate it would be to have Jack as a mentor/surrogate father to Ashi. Jack would be an alternative role model and "father" to Ashi compared to the evil (absent, abusive) Aku. The final battle between Jack and Aku would be not just a battle to save the future/reclaim the past (depending on whether Jack actually gets back to the past), but also an ideological battle between two dads. For all that's been said and will be said in the end, it is a sure thing that this season was made with complete creative freedom, because otherwise I can't imagine making it through the entire production of this season without someone pointing out that parallel (which I'm pretty sure is completely unintentional). It's so obvious.
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May 17, 2017 22:25
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"Aku! I'm pregnant with Ashi's child, and you're the father!"
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Incoming "if i were genndy": If I were Genndy- 1) All the sisters die in Episode 3. Jack kills Ashi even though she slows the slightest hints of good. 2) Jack is still mad. 3) Scaramouche tells Aku that Jack lost his sword a lot earlier. 4) Aku begins hunting Jack, who flees to the Scotsman as the only other person with a magic sword who can help him. 5) The Scotsman's daughters help Jack see all the good he's done and tour him around the world. 6) The woolies give him a crown or some poo poo and say he leads those who are good. Jack says he is not worthy. 7) The Scotsman's daughter tries to romance Jack but the ghost of the Scotsman haunts Jack and berates him and yells at him until he realizes that this show does not need romance. 8) Jack meditates with the ancient Monk who grew into the tree and regains his sword. 9) Aku, Mama Ashi and Scaramouche attack Jack while he has the sword. Some of Jack's allies die and he freaks out. 10) Jack defeats Aku but the world is still a heartless, hosed up place full of hatred and crime and begins falling apart without Aku's evil to sustain it. Literally rumbling and falling apart. 11) Jack rallies his army and takes everyone to the Guardian, the only man who defeated him in one-on-one combat and deals with a lot of inadequacy and is cheered up by people telling him they'll help. Jack learns a true hero doesn't do things alone or something. He puts on his stupid crown. 12) The Guardian talks a lot of poo poo then kneels and allows Jack to pass through the time portal. 13) Series ends as people begin to wink out of existence. WA-CHA. G-Mawwwwwww fucked around with this message at 23:28 on May 17, 2017 |
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May 17, 2017 22:51
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Incoming "if i were genndy": Let's squeeze in some space for Ashi to reflect on her sisters' deaths so she can hurl it all back at Mother during their fight. And I wanna see Mad Jack go full-on distortion, to the point of abstract during his fight with Jack. But yeah, by and large I think this would definitely solve a lot of the weak plot points and pacing issues. There are also quite a few elements you added that would sync nicely into a more cohesive narrative, like The Scotsman v. Death Ghost thing. OOH! Come to think of it, you could segue into Ashi's feelings about her sisters and mother by introducing her to the positive relationship that is The Scotsman and His Valkyrie Daughters. That'd allow her to reevaluate both sibling and parental relationships. e: Also keeping Scruffy Jack around for continuity's sake.
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Oh Snapple! posted:jack loving a girl who was introduced to him as a mentally stunted, tantrum-throwing toddler was definitely the better path to take there She was introduced to him as an assassin trying to kill him. Not that I disagree that the relationship is creepy in nature, at least in theory, I just don't think that statement is accurate. I do disagree that the relationship is creepy in execution though, solely because Ashi hasn't acted like or been treated narratively as a child or surrogate since the end of episode 5 and there's no indication she's ever going to be again. Which I don't like, because I think she's much more interesting as a character when she was a ball of rage with no idea of what was good or right and was just coming to realize that there might be some gaps in her worldview and how she was raised. That character would be creepy if she was dating Jack. As is though, Ashi basically went from that to a normal, fully educated and aware adult in the span of one episode so I don't really see anything creepy in her dating Jack. I see bad melodrama and lots of cliche writing, just not creepiness personally.
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Augus posted:yeah there are not nearly enough stories these days about a jaded old man wandering the apocalypse with an innocent little girl who serves as his surrogate daughter gently caress yeah, this should just be Samurai Logan! Scotsman can be Professor X.
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May 18, 2017 00:42
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Augus posted:if only they had done at least an entire episode about this girl growing up and becoming more mature and learning what the world is really like, we wouldn't be stuck with this dilemma. Is this sarcasm, or did you not watch the episode where she went around with Jack and found out what the world was really like and then got separated from him and grew up and became more mature?
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May 18, 2017 03:54
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brocked posted:Is this sarcasm, or did you not watch the episode where she went around with Jack and found out what the world was really like and then got separated from him and grew up and became more mature? You're yelling at another person who supports the same ship as you.
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"yelling"
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Raserys posted:"yelling" emptyquoting
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May 18, 2017 05:57
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i think the relationship is fine, quit being a bunch of prudes you guys. jack's super innocent he wouldn't hurt a fly
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Wild Horses posted:i think the relationship is fine, quit being a bunch of prudes you guys. jack's super innocent he wouldn't hurt a fly A robot fly on the other hand...
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There's your next revival hit, Cartoon Network: Fifty years have passed... and yet... I remain single.
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May 18, 2017 13:56
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Pack up the thread boys wacha
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Thank you
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SatansOnion posted:There's your next revival hit, Cartoon Network: Unfortunately Johnny Bravo would never get a pass on TV today. He's a Tumblr rant personified.
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May 18, 2017 14:44
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Finally, a good post! e: brocked posted:Is this sarcasm,
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There Bias Two posted:Unfortunately Johnny Bravo would never get a pass on TV today. He's a Tumblr rant personified. Yes, I'm sure those awful Tumblr people would hate a show that constantly mocks its moronic and chauvinistic protagonist.
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May 18, 2017 15:23
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Equeen posted:Yes, I'm sure those awful Tumblr people would hate a show that constantly mocks its moronic and chauvinistic protagonist. Never underestimate people's ability to miss the point entirely.
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There Bias Two posted:Never underestimate people's ability to miss the point entirely. True, but I have no trouble imagining the sea of posts extolling Johnny Bravo for being a biting commentary on PUAs and toxic masculinity.
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Jonny Bravo was somewhat a negative commentary on PUAs, but it suffers a bit from the time it was made. I think it did a good job of establishing people like Johnny as vain, self-absorbed, dickwads, but it would sometimes do the "nice guy(tm)" thing. Ya know what I mean? It also could get confusing at time since it would sometimes introduce a bigger douche so Johnny was less doucey in comparison (like the musical episode, which strangely had its last song reaired constantly despite the joke being all the woman he tricked getting pissed and getting back at him).
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May 18, 2017 15:57
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Johnny was a fairly okay guy destroyed by the insecure demands of societal masculinity. If he wasn't trying so hard to impress women with things that are widely touted as The Only Things Women Care About (player, muscles, slick clothes, being an rear end in a top hat, maybe a car? For some reason?) he'd be pretty dumb and dorky, but tolerable enough to at least get a girlfriend. Instead he attracted Carl.
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I've seen the way that Power Puff Girls was rebooted and it was not pretty. Johnny Bravo might get Leisure Suit Larry'd in that people miss the satire of the original show, and will make Johnny's faults be turned into a good thing unironically. However, if it's written by a decent set of writers who understood the satire, I don't see why not.Das Boo posted:Instead he attracted Carl. Johnny/Carl is the true ship. Sorry Jashi fans. EagerSleeper fucked around with this message at 17:46 on May 18, 2017 |
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May 18, 2017 17:42
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EagerSleeper posted:I've seen the way that Power Puff Girls was rebooted and it was not pretty. Johnny Bravo might get Leisure Suit Larry'd in that people miss the satire of the original show, and will make Johnny's faults be turned into a good thing unironically. However, if it's written by a decent set of writers who understood the satire, I don't see why not. What happened with this Power Puff Girls reboot, exactly? Never saw it.
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From what I remember, the only women who actually liked Johnny were his mom, a little girl, a deer, and one woman who he actually had a nice date with, but she turned out to be a super spy and had to erase his memory in order to protect him or something.
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Rhonne posted:From what I remember, the only women who actually liked Johnny were his mom, a little girl, a deer, and one woman who he actually had a nice date with, but she turned out to be a super spy and had to erase his memory in order to protect him or something. 90s-tv-series.txt
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Covok posted:What happened with this Power Puff Girls reboot, exactly? Never saw it. It's kinda hard to explain how badly it misses the tone, charm and humor of the original. It's just really, really bland and tries very hard to be "updated," so lots of emoticon faces and memes. And I say this having really disliked the new designs from that special they did a couple of years ago, but being won over by the writing upon watching it. I don't hate the reboot for the sake of being a reboot. It's just bad. Also, the werewolf chick liked Johnny!
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May 18, 2017 17:48
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Rhonne posted:had to erase his memory in order to protect him or something. Matriarchy!!!! 
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Rhonne posted:From what I remember, the only women who actually liked Johnny were his mom, a little girl, a deer, and one woman who he actually had a nice date with, but she turned out to be a super spy and had to erase his memory in order to protect him or something. Don't forget the time when he dated a werewolf
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Das Boo posted:It's kinda hard to explain how badly it misses the tone, charm and humor of the original. It's just really, really bland and tries very hard to be "updated," so lots of emoticon faces and memes.  Imagine if they hosed up Samurai Jack that badly? Aku would be too posting on Akubook and Akitter about how he's totally going to pwn the Samurai today only for the Scottsmans to troll the gently caress out of him. Aku would then try to act like a tough guy online only for a bunch of dupe Aku accounts to mock him.
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Equeen posted:Don't forget the time when he dated a werewolf I must have missed that episode. Oh yeah, and Velma liked him too.
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My glasses I cant be seen without my glasses
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Rigged Death Trap posted:My glasses Johnny fit in well with the Scooby-Doo cast: basically Fred, but with a personality. It strangely worked well with Fred in the mix. Also, a greaser does kind of fit with their 70s kids getup. Man, thinking about it, Cartoon Network sure as hell liked crossovers, as far as cartoons go. I don't remember Nickelodon ever doing crossovers, but Cartoon Network sure did a few and some were weird as hell. Like Kids Next Door mixed in Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy with an Ed, Edd, and Eddy cameo. Did Jack ever do a crossover?
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Covok posted:What happened with this Power Puff Girls reboot, exactly? Never saw it. 
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Uh, having kindergarteners twerk is a little hosed up.
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Covok posted:Uh, having kindergarteners twerk is a little hosed up. I can't imagine storyboarding this and thinking, "Yeah, that's a totally appropriate thing to have young children do on a kid's cartoon."
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