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morallyobjected posted:Necron is explained. he's explained right before you fight him, so maybe what you want is for him to be mentioned at some point before then "You stand before the final dimension, and I am the darkness of eternity..." Zidane "Wh-Who are you!?" "All life bears death from birth. Life fears death, but lives only to die. It starts with anxiety. Anxiety becomes fear. Fear leads to anger... anger leads to hate... hate leads to suffering... The only cure for this fear is total destruction. Kuja was a victim of his own fear. He concluded he could only save himself by destroying the origin of all things - the crystal. ...Now, the theory is undeniable. Kuja's action proves it. All things live to perish." At last, life has uncovered this truth. Now, it is time to end this world." I don't really hear an actual explanation in any of this? What does "darkness of eternity" and "final dimension" mean? Zidane actaully asks Necron who he is and the only response is nihilistic rambling. I would like to know where Necron came from, how it got here, were the party actually dead and in Hell at the end and if so how did Kuja revive all of them? Everything with Memoria feels rather tacked on. Like, how did Memoria get there? Did Kuja make it? Why did he have to make it to reach the Crystal? Alright, in my IX remake, I'd try to explain the entire final part of the game better.
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I'd argue FF9 doesn't really need a remake. Definitely not saying it's perfect, but most of its problems are with its load times and slow battle system, stuff that can be tweaked in the original (and stuff the Steam/mobile versions mostly fix). Personally I think there's much more potential with remakes of Chrono Cross, Vagrant Story, or Xenogears (though good luck with that last one for a few reasons).
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Mega64 posted:I'd argue FF9 doesn't really need a remake. Definitely not saying it's perfect, but most of its problems are with its load times and slow battle system, stuff that can be tweaked in the original (and stuff the Steam/mobile versions mostly fix). Well poo poo, I was only thinking of FF games. gently caress FFVIII, bring on a Chrono Cross remake with a stable party of Serge, Kid, Karsh, Glenn, Magus, Harle and....Fargo. Maybe Nikki. Need a couple characters for the demihuman subplot. Also make sure Mitsuda is involved for at least some of the rearrangements. Also an ending that doesn't feel like they ran out of money.
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Remake doesn't just mean full blown triple a production. Alpha sapphire pokemon is a remake, fire emblem echoes is a remake, tactics ogre was a remake. You can still have a small scale modern improvement on ff9 without making it controversial.
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Attitude Indicator posted:i don't know if remaking FF8 into a different kind of terrible game will solve anything
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Just making it so every battle didn't use up a year of your life would be an improvement.
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A Xenogears remake would be so awesome but drat it is not a story that is easily digestible. It features probably the best writing of the late 90s JRPGs.
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All I want them to do is give me FFVIII with HD graphics. I don't even want VA. Just treat it like the FFVII update that's currently on PS4 and I'd be perfectly fine to part with my money.
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Vargatron posted:A Xenogears remake would be so awesome but drat it is not a story that is easily digestible. It features probably the best writing of the late 90s JRPGs. And then the obvious part of they need to actually make half the game this time.
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I really want to see how the FFXIV Red Mage is going to play, because if it's actually fun and not just kind of a mess it sounds like a job made specifically for me. Mobility? A mix between close-range swordfighting and flashy, longer-ranged magic? A good hat? I want all of that.NikkolasKing posted:I don't really hear an actual explanation in any of this? What does "darkness of eternity" and "final dimension" mean? Zidane actaully asks Necron who he is and the only response is nihilistic rambling. Much like Persona final bosses, Necron's a thematic final boss, rather than an actual character. Fighting him is supposed to be representative of the party conquering their fear of their own mortality, which is the battle that Kuja lost. Personally, at least, I prefer that to a long conversation about Necron's whole history and where he came from.
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I think that's cool and all, but I still think there's a better way to introduce it earlier to not completely come out of left field. Thematically the idea is built up, yes, but the actual scenario needs to be built up a little as well.
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"You see, a long time ago I was part of an advanced civilization that had reached the end of its evolution and collapsed. So I took my giant moon ship and my machine that pops out green haired waifus and took it upon myself to roam the stars, testing each civilization I encountered to determine if they were worthy of evolution by sending out the crystals. Your civilization has failed the test, and so must perish." "Necron thats loving dumb."
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NikkolasKing posted:Well poo poo, I was only thinking of FF games. gently caress FFVIII, bring on a Chrono Cross remake with a stable party of Serge, Kid, Karsh, Glenn, Magus, Harle and....Fargo. Maybe Nikki. Need a couple characters for the demihuman subplot. Also make sure Mitsuda is involved for at least some of the rearrangements. Also an ending that doesn't feel like they ran out of money. this but now every NPC is recruitable
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Spend time scouring the gameworld to get Skelly so that I can have him and his grandmother on my team.
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mandatory lesbian posted:this but now every NPC is recruitable Except Poshul and Pierre
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Necron makes perfect sense as an eidolon born from Kuja's nihilism just like Madeen is an eidolon born from the love of Eiko's family. You just need to spend a little more time establishing that that's a thing that happens.
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Except Poshul and Pierre poshul is dead in my perfect game, you fight him as the first boss
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Instead of rainbow scales from lizards, you get into Leena's pants with the rare and highly prized "inner intestine from a giant piece of poo poo".
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Vargatron posted:A Xenogears remake would be so awesome but drat it is not a story that is easily digestible. It features probably the best writing of the late 90s JRPGs. HD chair
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As nice as it would be to have a cleaned up translation, graphics that aren't an assault on your eyes, and Babel Tower reworked so it wasn't the worst dungeon in the history of anything. I'd be too worried they'd gently caress it all up. Take all the fear that "they just don't get it" with the FFVII remake but multiply it by a 100. Xenogears was a product of its time and it's built on mecha tropes and references as much as it's built on great characters and an intriguing story. I do think Xenogears is legitimately great but would it work in the 21st Century? I dunno, and that's assuming everything goes perfectly with the hypothetical remake's development.
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Xenogears sucks, hth
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corn in the bible posted:Xenogears sucks, hth whoa hey another spicy take by our resident Good Opinion Haver
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Necron being this weird, Brechtian disintegration of the end of FF9's narrative actually owns since it forces people to confront what the hell the game's narrative is actually doing, especially for a game that begins with a theater troupe exploiting the power of illusion and performance. A potential FF9 remake should actually double down on this and somehow push it even further. NikkolasKing posted:I do think Xenogears is legitimately great but would it work in the 21st Century? I dunno, and that's assuming everything goes perfectly with the hypothetical remake's development. Raxivace fucked around with this message at 18:42 on May 18, 2017 |
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SE already did a remake of Chrono Cross, it's called Final Fantasy 13-2.
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Fister Roboto posted:SE already did a remake of Chrono Cross, it's called Final Fantasy 13-2. That was a pretty awesome game.... Sadly there was no ending where Noel and Serah say gently caress all this noise and instead join a rock band. I un-ironically want all games to have alternate endings where the heroes just abandon the quest and instead go do other things.
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Raxivace posted:Honestly if all you did was speed up Xenogears' text it would play a lot better now. maybe also make the hour long cutscene with the mc sitting in a chair anything but that
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The only reason I wanted xenogears when it came out was cuz i was really into evangelion at the time but the actual game was rubbish
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NikkolasKing posted:That was a pretty awesome game.... Does the ending where Serah stays in the Lightning Dream world near the end and forgets Noel + Mog + her adventure count?
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Can we still post cool remixes and arrangements? Meant to post this one back when you guys were still talking about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7Cqvaqj0Ls
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mandatory lesbian posted:maybe also make the hour long cutscene with the mc sitting in a chair anything but that The child powered mech launcher and the gun that uses a character's dad as ammo, but in full HD . Thats about all I remember about xenogears but that alone deserves an HD version.
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mandatory lesbian posted:maybe also make the hour long cutscene with the mc sitting in a chair anything but that change the chair into a body pillow of citan uzuki in a swimsuit
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mandatory lesbian posted:maybe also make the hour long cutscene with the mc sitting in a chair anything but that
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Meridian posted:Can we still post cool remixes and arrangements? Meant to post this one back when you guys were still talking about it. Music chat is always welcome, mostly because it's the only thing all of us can agree is good about the series.
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Raxivace posted:Honestly if all you did was speed up Xenogears' text it would play a lot better now. it's crap though if it messes the timing of I AM A MAN OF THE SEA! up
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Is Exponential Entropy good or is it like one of those Stockholm syndrome things.
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Also the Four Job Fiesta thread is up for those interested.
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Saint Freak posted:Is Exponential Entropy good or is it like one of those Stockholm syndrome things. forward and back and then forward and back and then go forward and back then put one foot forward forward and back and then forward and back and then go forward and back then put one foot forward
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Saint Freak posted:Is Exponential Entropy good or is it like one of those Stockholm syndrome things. It's good.
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ImpAtom posted:It's good. Hmm...precisely what someone who has been Stockholm'd would say!
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Saint Freak posted:Is Exponential Entropy good or is it like one of those Stockholm syndrome things. It's both.
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