EVE Online 2017: We are the Alphas, the Omegas and the Gankers.

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Klyith: Aug 3, 2007; GBS Pledge Week

Altran posted:

EVE is so boring these days. Need a symmetrical war to keep people entertained, CCP need to add some conflict drivers for 0.0.

There are no possible conflict drivers worth what a big symmetrical war would cost these days, unless you propose something absurdly valuable.

Thank CCP for going whole hog on supercaps online. Military power is heavily titled in favor of incumbents.

Worlds Smuggest posted:

I dunno, it's a cool concept but the sociopath simulator nature of the game rends it pointless.

It wasn't even that stuff was stolen or claimed by spies. It was just that ships got handed out to people that were kinda inactive or already on the verge of quitting, especially when it was a capship.

If you have a giveaway program it kinda encourages the person who was naturally gonna quit within some ~3 month timeframe to stick it out for the milestone of a free whatever. Just a human nature thing.

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# ? May 28, 2024 01:24

Xolve: Oct 12, 2012; Well, shoot! We ain't come this far just to dump this thing in the drink. What's the nearest target opportunity?

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# ? May 18, 2017 03:46

Worlds Smuggest: Mar 13, 2010

Klyith posted:

It wasn't even that stuff was stolen or claimed by spies. It was just that ships got handed out to people that were kinda inactive or already on the verge of quitting, especially when it was a capship.

If you have a giveaway program it kinda encourages the person who was naturally gonna quit within some ~3 month timeframe to stick it out for the milestone of a free whatever. Just a human nature thing.

mmm, what if you had a closed rules system.

You have a system that gives them out but the general group doesn't know how it works. I dunno, when I first started playing EVE, we used to pool resources or pool work to aquire assets for general use, a freighter, orca basic things like that for running around in highsec. I liked that we could do things to help members out collectively for the development of individuals who wanted to pursue something. I went from Thrashers to ruptures to hurricanes to maelstroms as fast as the hull skills could go, I've only really had an interest in the larger ships from the start of my time in EVE. I was able to do this mostly from my first maelstrom being given to me by another dude in the corp that was shipping up to a vargur at the time. Things like that make a huge impact on developing players. It's a practice I don't see much when I look at other corps. I could just be nostalgic but I dunno.

# ? May 18, 2017 04:37

PookBear: Nov 1, 2008

you're loving retarded thats what a srp program is except it requries players to make the initial investment

# ? May 18, 2017 04:49

PookBear: Nov 1, 2008

just stop

# ? May 18, 2017 04:49

orange juche: Mar 14, 2012

Worlds Smuggest posted:

mmm, what if you had a closed rules system.

You have a system that gives them out but the general group doesn't know how it works. I dunno, when I first started playing EVE, we used to pool resources or pool work to aquire assets for general use, a freighter, orca basic things like that for running around in highsec. I liked that we could do things to help members out collectively for the development of individuals who wanted to pursue something. I went from Thrashers to ruptures to hurricanes to maelstroms as fast as the hull skills could go, I've only really had an interest in the larger ships from the start of my time in EVE. I was able to do this mostly from my first maelstrom being given to me by another dude in the corp that was shipping up to a vargur at the time. Things like that make a huge impact on developing players. It's a practice I don't see much when I look at other corps. I could just be nostalgic but I dunno.

What the poo poo man? Lay off the salvia dude.

# ? May 18, 2017 06:28

PookBear: Nov 1, 2008

Worlds Smuggest posted:

As a blackmarked j4g, I can tell you it's better to go where you can make friends.

reminder that this guy is so loving stupid he paid 10 bucks to join goonswarm

# ? May 18, 2017 08:27

Fix Lag: Sep 8, 2011; There's a sale at Penny's!

eve is dead

anyone still playing just doesn't want to accept reality

# ? May 18, 2017 08:52

Worlds Smuggest: Mar 13, 2010

Shitposting doesn't stop, it just takes long pauses.

I like reading the forums, why you have to be mad.

# ? May 18, 2017 10:13

Wibla: Feb 16, 2011

Just because you can't wrap your head around how SRP works in the imperium doesn't mean it needs fixing. Because it works just fine. So give it a rest, yeah?

Or in simpler words: FYAD

Handing out ships works somewhat better on a per corp basis than alliance/coalition basis. But it still sucks.

# ? May 18, 2017 10:18

Worlds Smuggest: Mar 13, 2010

I know how it works outside it, and most of the time I've found it poorly implemented. I've heard it's significantly better in GSF, which is kind of my point.

I agree corp level stuff is part of what I rambled about before.

but it's whatever.

# ? May 18, 2017 10:22

Dalael: Oct 14, 2014; Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

Worlds Smuggest posted:

mmm, what if you had a closed rules system.

You have a system that gives them out but the general group doesn't know how it works. I dunno, when I first started playing EVE, we used to pool resources or pool work to aquire assets for general use, a freighter, orca basic things like that for running around in highsec. I liked that we could do things to help members out collectively for the development of individuals who wanted to pursue something. I went from Thrashers to ruptures to hurricanes to maelstroms as fast as the hull skills could go, I've only really had an interest in the larger ships from the start of my time in EVE. I was able to do this mostly from my first maelstrom being given to me by another dude in the corp that was shipping up to a vargur at the time. Things like that make a huge impact on developing players. It's a practice I don't see much when I look at other corps. I could just be nostalgic but I dunno.

What's next? Are you gonna come up with some circular shaped rubber object to replace the wheel?

# ? May 18, 2017 12:26

Worlds Smuggest: Mar 13, 2010

Dalael posted:

What's next? Are you gonna come up with some circular shaped rubber object to replace the wheel?

I call it the Tire.

# ? May 18, 2017 13:20

ugh its Troika: May 2, 2009; by FactsAreUseless

Worlds Smuggest posted:

I call it the Tire.

insert your pod into one and roll the gently caress out of here

# ? May 18, 2017 13:44

DisgracelandUSA: Aug 11, 2011; Yeah, I gets down with the homies

Fix Lag posted:

eve is dead

anyone still playing just doesn't want to accept reality

I think as long as you're having fun and staving off the online internet spaceship equivalent of existential dread, Eve is cool, but once you realize eve is meaningless and you're just farming dank frags until the lights go out, it loses a bit of it's luster.

# ? May 18, 2017 14:27

Altran: Mar 20, 2013

Fix Lag posted:

eve is dead

anyone still playing just doesn't want to accept reality

eve is an elaborate text/voice chatting software with bonus "not so good spaceship flying" when you are not chatting to others.

# ? May 18, 2017 16:25

DisgracelandUSA: Aug 11, 2011; Yeah, I gets down with the homies

DisgracelandUSA posted:

I think as long as you're having fun and staving off the online internet spaceship equivalent of existential dread, Eve is cool, but once you realize eve is meaningless and you're just farming dank frags until the lights go out, it loses a bit of it's luster.

I swear I'm not projecting and this isn't a metaphor for my own life :unsmith:

# ? May 18, 2017 16:35

1001 Arabian dicks: Sep 16, 2013; EVE ONLINE IS MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY BECAUSE IM A FRIENDLESS SEMILITERATE LOSER WHO WILL PEDANTICALLY DEMAND PROOF FOR BASIC THINGS LIKE GRAVITY OR THE EXISTENCE OF SELF. ASK ME ABOUT CHEATING AT TARKOV BECAUSE, WELL, SEE ABOVE

the sad part is ccp could have fixed it but chose not to for the casuals.

# ? May 18, 2017 17:17

orange juche: Mar 14, 2012

ISIS CURES TROONS posted:

insert your pod into one and roll the gently caress out of here

# ? May 18, 2017 17:48

Alkabob: May 31, 2011; I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please

I was flying out to California to visit family and bumped into a business analyst for Electronic Arts. Apparently they plan to accquire EVE and CCP. Pretty much the outline goes as follows:

1. After the acquisition they will be shutting down the Iceland offices, any "talent" worth keeping will be sent to LA or London.
2. The London based servers will be moved to New York.
3. Two offices will pop up to replace the Iceland fortress of dread. One in London to phase out the London based servers and act a locus point for funneling talent in Europe. The other office will be in New York.
4. EA will shutdown Legion, the revival project for CCPs FPS, in favor of diverting resources for the next Medal of Honor game.
5. SOV will change, instead of being permanent ownership is now temporary. SOV will now be held for 1 season. A season looks like it will be 3 months. After which everything resets and you have to rush out and take stuff all over again.
6. To eliminate TiDi all together EA will auto-sim each week during the season. Based upon a number of metrics SOV is automatically assigned to the projected winner.
7. To even out Null Sec alliances, each alliance is assigned a "salary/skillpoint cap." They get a farm system in which players can be called up in the event of someone going inactive or having to be out the season for carpal tunnel syndrome. (We had a good chuckle about carpal tunnel.)
8. Instead of the SiFi elevator music, EA has the licensing rights to such songs as "Holla Back" and "B.O.B" by Outkast. These songs change each season but can be permanently purchased in the EA store.
9. Ship bumping earns a penalty. First offense is a 15 minute major where you have to sit docked up. Continued offenses penalize your group by limiting how many people can get into fleet.
10. After a Super or Titan loss a vote of no confidence automatically occurs and everyone in the alliance has to vote up or down to keep their current CEO and Directors. There will be a cut scene involving a boardroom and an executive being forced into an airlock or that could have just been a joke.

So 2018 EVE Online by EA.

# ? May 18, 2017 19:05

PookBear: Nov 1, 2008

Scooter_McCabe posted:

I was flying out to California to visit family and bumped into a business analyst for Electronic Arts. Apparently they plan to accquire EVE and CCP. Pretty much the outline goes as follows:

1. After the acquisition they will be shutting down the Iceland offices, any "talent" worth keeping will be sent to LA or London.
2. The London based servers will be moved to New York.
3. Two offices will pop up to replace the Iceland fortress of dread. One in London to phase out the London based servers and act a locus point for funneling talent in Europe. The other office will be in New York.
4. EA will shutdown Legion, the revival project for CCPs FPS, in favor of diverting resources for the next Medal of Honor game.
5. SOV will change, instead of being permanent ownership is now temporary. SOV will now be held for 1 season. A season looks like it will be 3 months. After which everything resets and you have to rush out and take stuff all over again.
6. To eliminate TiDi all together EA will auto-sim each week during the season. Based upon a number of metrics SOV is automatically assigned to the projected winner.
7. To even out Null Sec alliances, each alliance is assigned a "salary/skillpoint cap." They get a farm system in which players can be called up in the event of someone going inactive or having to be out the season for carpal tunnel syndrome. (We had a good chuckle about carpal tunnel.)
8. Instead of the SiFi elevator music, EA has the licensing rights to such songs as "Holla Back" and "B.O.B" by Outkast. These songs change each season but can be permanently purchased in the EA store.
9. Ship bumping earns a penalty. First offense is a 15 minute major where you have to sit docked up. Continued offenses penalize your group by limiting how many people can get into fleet.
10. After a Super or Titan loss a vote of no confidence automatically occurs and everyone in the alliance has to vote up or down to keep their current CEO and Directors. There will be a cut scene involving a boardroom and an executive being forced into an airlock or that could have just been a joke.

So 2018 EVE Online by EA.

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# ? May 18, 2017 19:21

Normal Barbarian: Nov 24, 2006

Scooter_McCabe posted:

I was flying out to California to visit family and bumped into a business analyst for Electronic Arts. Apparently they plan to accquire EVE and CCP. Pretty much the outline goes as follows:

1. After the acquisition they will be shutting down the Iceland offices, any "talent" worth keeping will be sent to LA or London.
2. The London based servers will be moved to New York.
3. Two offices will pop up to replace the Iceland fortress of dread. One in London to phase out the London based servers and act a locus point for funneling talent in Europe. The other office will be in New York.
4. EA will shutdown Legion, the revival project for CCPs FPS, in favor of diverting resources for the next Medal of Honor game.
5. SOV will change, instead of being permanent ownership is now temporary. SOV will now be held for 1 season. A season looks like it will be 3 months. After which everything resets and you have to rush out and take stuff all over again.
6. To eliminate TiDi all together EA will auto-sim each week during the season. Based upon a number of metrics SOV is automatically assigned to the projected winner.
7. To even out Null Sec alliances, each alliance is assigned a "salary/skillpoint cap." They get a farm system in which players can be called up in the event of someone going inactive or having to be out the season for carpal tunnel syndrome. (We had a good chuckle about carpal tunnel.)
8. Instead of the SiFi elevator music, EA has the licensing rights to such songs as "Holla Back" and "B.O.B" by Outkast. These songs change each season but can be permanently purchased in the EA store.
9. Ship bumping earns a penalty. First offense is a 15 minute major where you have to sit docked up. Continued offenses penalize your group by limiting how many people can get into fleet.
10. After a Super or Titan loss a vote of no confidence automatically occurs and everyone in the alliance has to vote up or down to keep their current CEO and Directors. There will be a cut scene involving a boardroom and an executive being forced into an airlock or that could have just been a joke.

So 2018 EVE Online by EA.

I will resub in a heartbeat, and gently caress you for besmirching my perfect Gwen waifu

# ? May 18, 2017 19:30

XenJ: Aug 1, 2014

2018 EVE Online by EA let it die.

Or do we get a real p2w store with EA.
😝

You have to buy booster xy or fc kick's you from fleet. Every has money for 20-30 plex.. to buy it.
😛😜😝

Witout kidding. I have still hope seagull has a really good plan for eve.

# ? May 18, 2017 19:46

Dalael: Oct 14, 2014; Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

Scooter_McCabe posted:

I was flying out to California to visit family and bumped into a business analyst for Electronic Arts. Apparently they plan to accquire EVE and CCP. Pretty much the outline goes as follows:

1. After the acquisition they will be shutting down the Iceland offices, any "talent" worth keeping will be sent to LA or London.
2. The London based servers will be moved to New York.
3. Two offices will pop up to replace the Iceland fortress of dread. One in London to phase out the London based servers and act a locus point for funneling talent in Europe. The other office will be in New York.
4. EA will shutdown Legion, the revival project for CCPs FPS, in favor of diverting resources for the next Medal of Honor game.
5. SOV will change, instead of being permanent ownership is now temporary. SOV will now be held for 1 season. A season looks like it will be 3 months. After which everything resets and you have to rush out and take stuff all over again.
6. To eliminate TiDi all together EA will auto-sim each week during the season. Based upon a number of metrics SOV is automatically assigned to the projected winner.
7. To even out Null Sec alliances, each alliance is assigned a "salary/skillpoint cap." They get a farm system in which players can be called up in the event of someone going inactive or having to be out the season for carpal tunnel syndrome. (We had a good chuckle about carpal tunnel.)
8. Instead of the SiFi elevator music, EA has the licensing rights to such songs as "Holla Back" and "B.O.B" by Outkast. These songs change each season but can be permanently purchased in the EA store.
9. Ship bumping earns a penalty. First offense is a 15 minute major where you have to sit docked up. Continued offenses penalize your group by limiting how many people can get into fleet.
10. After a Super or Titan loss a vote of no confidence automatically occurs and everyone in the alliance has to vote up or down to keep their current CEO and Directors. There will be a cut scene involving a boardroom and an executive being forced into an airlock or that could have just been a joke.

So 2018 EVE Online by EA.

I'm not sure I fully understand how your latest scam works. :confused:

Dalael fucked around with this message at 20:43 on May 18, 2017

# ? May 18, 2017 20:39

Ynglaur: Oct 9, 2013; The Malta Conference, anyone?

That's far too detailed to be a genuine EA business plan.

# ? May 18, 2017 21:08

Jazzzzz: May 16, 2002

No paid DLC content that makes up the majority of the game = not EA

# ? May 18, 2017 21:33

Wibla: Feb 16, 2011

Way too many steps in that plan

Here's how it goes

1. EA throws money at something
2. Bad management occurs
3. ????
4. Profit! (or maybe not?)

# ? May 18, 2017 21:33

Gwyneth Palpate: Jun 7, 2010; Do you want your breadcrumbs highlighted?

~SMcD

lol some of our guys RFed the blood raider sotiyo with T1 fit punishers

# ? May 18, 2017 23:04

Foehammer007: Dec 7, 2011; by Pragmatica

Scooter_McCabe posted:

I was flying out to California to visit family and bumped into a business analyst for Electronic Arts. Apparently they plan to accquire EVE and CCP. Pretty much the outline goes as follows:

1. After the acquisition they will be shutting down the Iceland offices, any "talent" worth keeping will be sent to LA or London.
2. The London based servers will be moved to New York.
3. Two offices will pop up to replace the Iceland fortress of dread. One in London to phase out the London based servers and act a locus point for funneling talent in Europe. The other office will be in New York.
4. EA will shutdown Legion, the revival project for CCPs FPS, in favor of diverting resources for the next Medal of Honor game.
5. SOV will change, instead of being permanent ownership is now temporary. SOV will now be held for 1 season. A season looks like it will be 3 months. After which everything resets and you have to rush out and take stuff all over again.
6. To eliminate TiDi all together EA will auto-sim each week during the season. Based upon a number of metrics SOV is automatically assigned to the projected winner.
7. To even out Null Sec alliances, each alliance is assigned a "salary/skillpoint cap." They get a farm system in which players can be called up in the event of someone going inactive or having to be out the season for carpal tunnel syndrome. (We had a good chuckle about carpal tunnel.)
8. Instead of the SiFi elevator music, EA has the licensing rights to such songs as "Holla Back" and "B.O.B" by Outkast. These songs change each season but can be permanently purchased in the EA store.
9. Ship bumping earns a penalty. First offense is a 15 minute major where you have to sit docked up. Continued offenses penalize your group by limiting how many people can get into fleet.
10. After a Super or Titan loss a vote of no confidence automatically occurs and everyone in the alliance has to vote up or down to keep their current CEO and Directors. There will be a cut scene involving a boardroom and an executive being forced into an airlock or that could have just been a joke.

So 2018 EVE Online by EA.

Thanks for running into a business analyst for us.

# ? May 18, 2017 23:32

Landsknecht: Oct 27, 2009; I hope this person is trolling, nobody can be so unfunny and dumb

Gwyneth Palpate posted:

lol some of our guys RFed the blood raider sotiyo with T1 fit punishers

wow what quality and innovative gameplay and content

almost as good as the time capri used an asshut to clear the "unkillable" drifters out of a WH

once again CCP never fails to impress

# ? May 18, 2017 23:33

DisgracelandUSA: Aug 11, 2011; Yeah, I gets down with the homies

Scooter_McCabe posted:

I was flying out to California to visit family and bumped into a business analyst for Electronic Arts. Apparently they plan to accquire EVE and CCP. Pretty much the outline goes as follows:

1. After the acquisition they will be shutting down the Iceland offices, any "talent" worth keeping will be sent to LA or London.
2. The London based servers will be moved to New York.
3. Two offices will pop up to replace the Iceland fortress of dread. One in London to phase out the London based servers and act a locus point for funneling talent in Europe. The other office will be in New York.
4. EA will shutdown Legion, the revival project for CCPs FPS, in favor of diverting resources for the next Medal of Honor game.
5. SOV will change, instead of being permanent ownership is now temporary. SOV will now be held for 1 season. A season looks like it will be 3 months. After which everything resets and you have to rush out and take stuff all over again.
6. To eliminate TiDi all together EA will auto-sim each week during the season. Based upon a number of metrics SOV is automatically assigned to the projected winner.
7. To even out Null Sec alliances, each alliance is assigned a "salary/skillpoint cap." They get a farm system in which players can be called up in the event of someone going inactive or having to be out the season for carpal tunnel syndrome. (We had a good chuckle about carpal tunnel.)
8. Instead of the SiFi elevator music, EA has the licensing rights to such songs as "Holla Back" and "B.O.B" by Outkast. These songs change each season but can be permanently purchased in the EA store.
9. Ship bumping earns a penalty. First offense is a 15 minute major where you have to sit docked up. Continued offenses penalize your group by limiting how many people can get into fleet.
10. After a Super or Titan loss a vote of no confidence automatically occurs and everyone in the alliance has to vote up or down to keep their current CEO and Directors. There will be a cut scene involving a boardroom and an executive being forced into an airlock or that could have just been a joke.

So 2018 EVE Online by EA.

You had me until 6. Honestly, season based gameplay wouldn't necessarily be a terrible thing. At least then there would be actual gameplay.

# ? May 19, 2017 00:19

Gwyneth Palpate: Jun 7, 2010; Do you want your breadcrumbs highlighted?

~SMcD

I would probably play the poo poo out of a separate eve server that reset once a year

# ? May 19, 2017 00:27

Fix Lag: Sep 8, 2011; There's a sale at Penny's!

CCP would be much better off resetting the server entirely and never reintroducing supercapitals.

# ? May 19, 2017 00:37

Syndic Thrass: Nov 10, 2011

Bad game

# ? May 19, 2017 01:08

Rust Martialis: May 8, 2007; At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Syndic Thrass posted:

Bad game

AMOK. bad

# ? May 19, 2017 01:33

necrotic: Aug 2, 2005; I owe my brother big time for this!

Fix Lag posted:

CCP would be much better off resetting the server entirely and never reintroducing supercapitals.

Or T3s.

# ? May 19, 2017 01:48

objectively bad: Nov 11, 2006; ABANDONS HIS FRIENDS

Anyone have improvement suggestions for this fit: https://zkillboard.com/kill/61728990/ before I go out and lose another one this weekend? I died miserably without getting a kill in that fight because who knew remote rep stabbers were a thing?

Also looking for a good armor link command destroyer for dual boxing. This is the best I was able to come up with with 3 links...and I'm not sure about it: https://zkillboard.com/kill/61658561/

# ? May 19, 2017 05:55

L0cke17: Nov 29, 2013

objectively bad posted:

Anyone have improvement suggestions for this fit: https://zkillboard.com/kill/61728990/ before I go out and lose another one this weekend? I died miserably without getting a kill in that fight because who knew remote rep stabbers were a thing?

I'm going to bed, but if noone else helps you by morning I can make many suggestions that will help. That is certainly a fit.

# ? May 19, 2017 06:40

objectively bad: Nov 11, 2006; ABANDONS HIS FRIENDS

Its not really eyepoop bad is it? :ohdear:

I had a good fight with it before it died (without links because they'd died tackling a nomen 1 jump earlier :rip:

): https://youtu.be/8NV7JpOkYuA

I'd have stuck around longer if I hadn't damaged my mwd so much at the end. Part of the fit idea being that its a oni but cap (charges) and loaded aar paste aren't the limiting resources, it's heat damage.

# ? May 19, 2017 07:36

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# ? May 28, 2024 01:24

vulvamancer: Oct 2, 2006; Yes! It all makes sense! We may be freaks, but we're freaks with teeth, and claws, and magic wands! And together, we can stand up to Farquaad!

objectively bad posted:

Its not really eyepoop bad is it?

I had a good fight with it before it died (without links because they'd died tackling a nomen 1 jump earlier ): https://youtu.be/8NV7JpOkYuA

I'd have stuck around longer if I hadn't damaged my mwd so much at the end. Part of the fit idea being that its a oni but cap (charges) and loaded aar paste aren't the limiting resources, it's heat damage.

A nano MWD legion seems to defeat the purpose of the legion. I'd rather run a tengu with an ASB for something like that. I'd get rid of the nano for sure, maybe the MWD, if you are going to be running that kind of setup get a scram and a web and just control the poo poo out of them. I'd probably install an AB, drop the nano for more tank and run a scram/web so I could get inside and orbit something with my relatively low sig while my pulses gently caress it up.

Also I generally prefer an active cap injector a battery, but that can go either way depending on what you like.

# ? May 19, 2017 08:49

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