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Cuntellectual
Aug 6, 2010
All those doritos and mountain dew wreak havoc on the waistline, sorry duder you waifu is fat.

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Minera
Sep 26, 2007

All your friends and foes,
they thought they knew ya,
but look who's in your heart now.

Cuntellectual posted:

D.va has no mechanic to gain aggro

spam her taunts and dances in mid lane and see what happens fucker

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

Cuntellectual posted:

All those doritos and mountain dew wreak havoc on the waistline, sorry duder you waifu is fat.

What if it's diet dee and baked doritos?

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


I still haven't actually tried out D.Va yet, and need a good tank/initiator/peeler/etc. type (I've got Chen and Arthas in my personal warrior stable right now) for ranked. I should get around to that.

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

Buy Johanna.

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


I have her and she is criminally boring to actually play, unfortunately!

Xae
Jan 19, 2005

wiegieman posted:

D.va is absolutely a tank. She charges her loving ult by taking damage, she knocks enemies around, she literally reduces the damage they deal, you even have to kill her twice.

How is that not the definition of a tank in hots

4 times. You need to kill her 4 times.

Poultron
May 26, 2006

It doesn't make me happy if you call me cute, you bastard!
how on earth is D.va not a tank, bare minimum she's a bruiser but her damage is too bad to classify her as a bruiser even in Pilot (where she'd be the world's squishiest Assassin anyway)

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


if they add a bungie hero it had loving better be durandal i s2g

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

Royalty is a continuous cutting motion


D.va is actually really good at pouncing on really low health targets trying to disengage. Boosters are incredible for getting around in a hurry, and the slowing defense matrix can keep them from escaping from your team.

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

if they add a bungie hero it had loving better be durandal i s2g

yeah

Kyrosiris
May 24, 2006

You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".



wiegieman posted:

D.va is actually really good at pouncing on really low health targets trying to disengage. Boosters are incredible for getting around in a hurry, and the slowing defense matrix can keep them from escaping from your team.

Yeah, I've had to play a lot more carefully when playing Valla or Chromie because a good D.Va will pounce on me and punish positioning mistakes like whoa.

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

Avatar brought to you by the TG Sanity fund
DVa is the new hero and everyone is playing her do of course she follows no matching rules in QM because making all these NEW HOTS PLAYERS wait a long time for matches might bore them and them they'll go back to OW and complain and get bored by the glacial pace of patches and additions to that game. :eng99:

Lemon-Lime posted:

Here's how you do a payload map in a HotS that doesn't loving suck:

1) put a single payload on the map;
2) make both teams fight over it;
3) put in a mechanic that prevents the game from stalemating forever, such as "every time the payload hits a checkpoint, a shot is fired at the core" (with some kind of grace period so you can't just walk the payload back and forth over one checkpoint very quickly).
4) make it so that if you escort the payload to the end you do a large amount of core damage, so that the game doesn't drag on forever if one team is getting stomped.

No.

1- Have a countdown to a payload release where you have to team fight to gain control of the shielded payload.
2- Winning side has to escort to damage the core.
3- If they take too long, the payload loses its shields and can be destroyed.
4- Taking forts extends the shield timer when the payload is yours.
5- Core is protected from creeps, same as Towers. Forts can be flipped back and forth.
6- It only takes 3 payloads to destroy the core. The boss can take off another hit but he only spawns when the payload countdown timer is up and your team has to fight for control, and in a spot far away.

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

Wouldn't a "proper" payload map only have one at a time and you have to punch through the enemy team in the allotted time?

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

Wouldn't a "proper" payload map only have one at a time and you have to punch through the enemy team in the allotted time?

I assume they wouldn't want to do that because it would lead to the game snowballing badly after the first one, like old haunted mines.

If one of Hanamura's many issues is forts being too valuable, maybe rather than instant damage amp they just spawn a one time payload that can be escorted, to still require a bit more investment.

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

Royalty is a continuous cutting motion


Making forts just immediately spawn your payload would work with that map's game loop much better. It's supposed to be about pushing payloads while minding your lanes, but it really becomes about blitzing a fort then pushing a payload, since mercs can fill in for missing xp.

Spudd
Nov 27, 2007

Protect children from "Safe Schools" social engineering. Shame!

Ciaphas posted:

I have her and she is criminally boring to actually play, unfortunately!

I think you're getting Johanna confused with Muradin.

Semper Fudge
Feb 19, 2009

Pitchfork was wrong. (f)lowers of Algerbong is crap.
I think we're all forgetting the undeniable likelihood of Tony Hawk shredding his way to the roster

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


Spudd posted:

I think you're getting Johanna confused with Muradin.

They're both pretty bad!

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.

Semper Fudge posted:

I think we're all forgetting the undeniable likelihood of Tony Hawk shredding his way to the roster

Absolutely would day one buy as well. He just earns his team objectives by doing trick runs around the map and otherwise contributes absolutely nothing damage healing or tanking wise to the battlefield.

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



Friendly PSA that Stars & Stripes Raynor is only 100 freaking shards

Grunty Murky is 400 but still worth

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


BrianBoitano posted:

Friendly PSA that Stars & Stripes Raynor is only 100 freaking shards

Grunty Murky is 400 but still worth

Also friendly PSA that God-King Leoric is only 100 shards.

Sarmhan
Nov 1, 2011

These are all weird ways to say "Uncle Ringmaster Greymane is only 100 shards"

Otherkinsey Scale
Jul 17, 2012

Just a little bit of sunshine!

Spudd posted:

I think you're getting Johanna confused with Muradin.

Not when he's dressed up like the king of Candyland.

Ghost of Starman
Mar 9, 2008
Been having some good luck trying Arthas. Well, some good & some bad, but a super-fun game where the root on Howling Blast just loving owned people over and over (especially Tracer, for which I feel no remorse).
...which reminds me, question (thanks to whoever linked this guy earlier, he's full of useful insights) - in this video, it's a Arthas 1v1 Rexxar (& Misha), and he just absolutely refuses to Howling Blast the bear when it's causing him grief on a point objective; the commentator even calls it out. I can't for the life of me figure out why, but he surely knows something I don't.

Also, if I want to spend my 1,000 free gems efficiently, I'm guessing my best bet is to pick up 4 cheap heroes half-off, like Tyrande is now? + would folks recommend Tyrande as a good choice to grab?

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
Just pulled D.Va out of a common loot crate.

The system works.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
So is graveyard hour east coast time also graveyard hour for this game?

I have 19 more games to burn through so I can get all the week reward stuff.

ToastyPotato
Jun 23, 2005

CONVICTED OF DISPLAYING HIS PEANUTS IN PUBLIC
Every single hero I have gotten from crates has been a dupe I think. I am up to 4 so far. Feels Good.

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib
So is March of the Murlocs supposed to be good? I've seen people talk about how Octograb got super-nerfed because now you can just kill Murky and end it early which, fair enough, but every single game I've thought to myself "y'know, I'm gonna try March of the Murlocs this time" I've never once come away from it being impressed in the slightest, nor have I ever had a moment where I was like "hell yeah, that March totally turned the fight in our favor, way to go."

I'm bad at the game so of course that's a factor there but nonetheless March comes across like a minor nuisance at best with a long cooldown while I can have Octograb up dang near every fight, and to be honest if I have to trade my life for that of another hero that's a tradeoff that works out in my favor, especially the longer the match goes for when I'm respawning in 6-12 seconds while they're taking a minute.

Gustav
Jul 12, 2006

This is all very confusing. Do you mind if I call you Rodriguez?
Both are good.

porfiria
Dec 10, 2008

by Modern Video Games
March is good on maps where teams have to maneuver through awkward corridors for objectives--like on Cursed Hollow if they're in the boss arena or in certain approaches toward the tribute. Also good for zoning around forts.

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



SirSamVimes posted:

Also friendly PSA that God-King Leoric is only 100 shards.

I got Leoric's Space King Motorcycle from a chest, then a few chests later I got his Space King skin. I should really play more Leoric since that skin owns so hard.

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


If you can force a teamfight in your March, it deals insane damage.

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



Der Shovel posted:

I got Leoric's Space King Motorcycle from a chest, then a few chests later I got his Space King skin. I should really play more Leoric since that skin owns so hard.

Same, actually. I don't own Leoric :v:

Gustav
Jul 12, 2006

This is all very confusing. Do you mind if I call you Rodriguez?

SirSamVimes posted:

If you can force a teamfight in your March, it deals insane damage.

And, of course, if the enemy team is trying to force a teamfight that's bad for you you can take the wind out of their sails in a drat hurry

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

I actually had fun on spider butts last night. Dva is my wife you guys

Which ult do you guys like on her? Brian/hill was saying Big Shot every time and I think the opposite. With GG WP I think adding damage or CRD to pilot is unneeded, while Meka appreciates the extra damage.

Also I was doing a bit game and got a solo megakill with nuke 'em, they were all full health lol

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



Big Shot interrupts channels on objectives, gives pilot some wave clear (especially as minions are marching single-file), is a DPS boost even with GG WP, and gets better if you hit two enemies.

otoh bunny hop's sfx are OP, so I'll call it a draw

Nephzinho
Jan 25, 2008





BrianBoitano posted:

Big Shot interrupts channels on objectives, gives pilot some wave clear (especially as minions are marching single-file), is a DPS boost even with GG WP, and gets better if you hit two enemies.

otoh bunny hop's sfx are OP, so I'll call it a draw

Bunny Hop also puts a very big "KILL ME" sign on yourself, even if against a melee comp that is what you want. I haven't played too much D.va but I have been jumping between the ults a lot.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


I prefer Bunny Hop since I always get GG WP at 16 and end up spending very little time outside of the meka.

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Avalerion
Oct 19, 2012

When/against who is that ablative armor talent a good idea?

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