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pagancow
Jan 15, 2001

Video Stymie

just sit on your trashy asus tn panel (or macbook air) forever until the backlight dies and then hopefully you can come into this decade by force when the next ad supported google phone you buy has HDR ads, and you have to pay a dollar to see HDR anything else

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hifi
Jul 25, 2012

bloom sucks though

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

ill throw hdr on the pile of poo poo i don't care about like 3d movies

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
real super hdr should mean that there is bright poo poo in the frame and also dark poo poo and in an objective sense all the detail is visible but like in real life the dark poo poo is imperceptible because the bright poo poo is so bright and the dynamic range of your eyeballs is exceeded

but i bet it's nothing good like that

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
like if u held your hand over the bright stuff u could see the dark stuff but if u don't u are blinded by it

BONGHITZ
Jan 1, 1970

Hard Dick, Resolute

RISCy Business
Jun 17, 2015

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Fun Shoe
hdr is gay

a neurotic ai
Mar 22, 2012
sitting on my rear end waiting for a hdr ultrawide preferably w/ high pixel density, dci-p3, 100hz variable refresh, 4:4:4 chroma subsampling and a very shallow curve. IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR!?!?!?

pagancow
Jan 15, 2001

Video Stymie

hifi posted:

bloom sucks though

You use less bloom with HDR displays than on non HDR displays since you're trying to simulate something really bright, instead of just making something really bright

echinopsis posted:

real super hdr should mean that there is bright poo poo in the frame and also dark poo poo and in an objective sense all the detail is visible but like in real life the dark poo poo is imperceptible because the bright poo poo is so bright and the dynamic range of your eyeballs is exceeded

but i bet it's nothing good like that

You know how when you look at a person standing inside next to a window and how your eye can see both the person inside and outside, but as soon as you take a picture with your phone you can only see either the face or outside?

HDR displays are like your eyes where you can accurately display the scene like your eye sees it, without any weird local contrast adjustments or the Tonemapped HDR uglyness that was displayed earlier.

pagancow
Jan 15, 2001

Video Stymie

yall be like 'duh this thing that is going to be sliced bread 4.0 is gonna be DUMMMMM' and you haven't even seen it, and cannot even see it because you refuse to spend money or walk into a store becuase ads

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




pagancow posted:

yall be like 'duh this thing that is going to be sliced bread 4.0 is gonna be DUMMMMM' and you haven't even seen it, and cannot even see it because you refuse to spend money or walk into a store becuase ads

do you like work on a secret google monitor factory or something

pagancow
Jan 15, 2001

Video Stymie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdf5n-zI14

pagancow
Jan 15, 2001

Video Stymie

PAGANCOW WANTS YOU TO BELIEVE THAT HDR IS GREAT AND YOU SHOULD DROP YOUR HARD EARNED DOLLARS ON IT< BUT ITS JUST BIG MONITOR SPEAKING THROUGH THE "ASTRO TURF" MOUTHPIECE THAT IS KNOWN AS CAPITOLISM...RARRR ADS BAD, ALSO DONT LISTEN TO YOUR DOLBY DIGITAL PROPERLY JUST CRANK THAT poo poo 400 PERCENT, ALSO NEVER EVER BUY A CAMERA THAT CAN SHOOT A HIGHER DYNAMIC RANGE OOPS I FAILED I BOUGHT A SMARTPHONE AARRGGGGGHH BIG MONITOR OUT TO GET ME AGAIN!

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




pagancow posted:

PAGANCOW WANTS YOU TO BELIEVE THAT HDR IS GREAT AND YOU SHOULD DROP YOUR HARD EARNED DOLLARS ON IT< BUT ITS JUST BIG MONITOR SPEAKING THROUGH THE "ASTRO TURF" MOUTHPIECE THAT IS KNOWN AS CAPITOLISM...RARRR ADS BAD, ALSO DONT LISTEN TO YOUR DOLBY DIGITAL PROPERLY JUST CRANK THAT poo poo 400 PERCENT, ALSO NEVER EVER BUY A CAMERA THAT CAN SHOOT A HIGHER DYNAMIC RANGE OOPS I FAILED I BOUGHT A SMARTPHONE AARRGGGGGHH BIG MONITOR OUT TO GET ME AGAIN!

im all for hdr even for large figgies, just confused with your ad policys

pagancow
Jan 15, 2001

Video Stymie

sioled internet is going to occur because web browsers are building their own adblockers in to collect money from people who whitelist.

hope you enjoy installing and patching 4 browsers because argh someone made you want to buy a thing

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
the problem is captialism

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

pagancow posted:

You use less bloom with HDR displays than on non HDR displays since you're trying to simulate something really bright, instead of just making something really bright


You know how when you look at a person standing inside next to a window and how your eye can see both the person inside and outside, but as soon as you take a picture with your phone you can only see either the face or outside?

HDR displays are like your eyes where you can accurately display the scene like your eye sees it, without any weird local contrast adjustments or the Tonemapped HDR uglyness that was displayed earlier.

bloom is the same thing as hdr except instead of faking eye damage you actually get eye damage

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb

pagancow posted:

sioled internet is going to occur because web browsers are building their own adblockers in to collect money from people who whitelist.

hope you enjoy installing and patching 4 browsers because argh someone made you want to buy a thing

I would rather not use the internet than be exposed to the toxic advertising people poo poo all over, so this works great for me.

A_Literate_Negress
May 17, 2017

by zen death robot

pram posted:

  • viewing porn
  • if yr using a monitor at night u can dim down your VLC porn vids with flux
  • can be used to browse yospos
  • play video games
  • watch non-porn movies (?)
I use these monitors to do all of these thing except watch porn, which I've given up out of respect for my fiancé.



Left is 1440 x 900, the primary display on right is 2560 x 1080, which yields a pretty nice balance of FOV vs. FPS in most games.

Spot my electronic ballsack shaver.

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb
In borat voice: "My fiance!" lmao

BONGHITZ
Jan 1, 1970

nice first post and username

pram
Jun 10, 2001

Salt Fish posted:

In borat voice: "My fiance!" lmao

lol

pram
Jun 10, 2001
*borat voice* I'm Gay!

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

pagancow posted:

You use less bloom with HDR displays than on non HDR displays since you're trying to simulate something really bright, instead of just making something really bright


You know how when you look at a person standing inside next to a window and how your eye can see both the person inside and outside, but as soon as you take a picture with your phone you can only see either the face or outside?

HDR displays are like your eyes where you can accurately display the scene like your eye sees it, without any weird local contrast adjustments or the Tonemapped HDR uglyness that was displayed earlier.

i know what you're talking about, i'm saying that i'll be disappointed if hdr tvs have a dynamic range that doesn't exceed what our eyes can deal with

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮

A_Literate_Negress posted:

I use these monitors to do all of these thing except watch porn, which I've given up out of respect for my fiancé.



Left is 1440 x 900, the primary display on right is 2560 x 1080, which yields a pretty nice balance of FOV vs. FPS in most games.

Spot my electronic ballsack shaver.

you should watch porn with your fiancé

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
lol if you need to use a monitor and aren't a being of pure light and Correct Thought and project your perfect consciousness out into the universe

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

Silver Alicorn posted:

you should watch porn with your fiancé

yeah most dudes are into porn, you might be surprised

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
lol

watching porn with your partner is a gateway drug to jumping on swingers.com and inviting someone into the bedroom

RISCy Business
Jun 17, 2015

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Fun Shoe

echinopsis posted:

lol

watching porn with your partner is a gateway drug to jumping on swingers.com and inviting someone into the bedroom

echopenis speaks from experience

A_Literate_Negress
May 17, 2017

by zen death robot

Silver Alicorn posted:

you should watch porn with your fiancé
She doesn't watch porn as she is a being of pure light and Correct Thought.

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

A_Literate_Negress posted:

She doesn't watch porn as she is a being of pure light and Correct Thought.

oh, i thought fiance with one e meant a dude. that changes the calculus somewhat

well, hope she makes it up to you :shrug:

pagancow
Jan 15, 2001

Video Stymie

hifi posted:

bloom is the same thing as hdr except instead of faking eye damage you actually get eye damage

bloom happens naturally because light difracts inside your eye. Bloom is still needed on HDR10 because you can't have something as bright as the sun on a display.

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

no thanks. i turn all that poo poo off. if there was a professional standard for motion blur i'd disable that too

pagancow
Jan 15, 2001

Video Stymie

echinopsis posted:

i know what you're talking about, i'm saying that i'll be disappointed if hdr tvs have a dynamic range that doesn't exceed what our eyes can deal with

10K nits isn't enough to exceed human vision for DR. Your eyes have an iris that can open and close giving you over 22 stops of dynamic range.

Human vision is around 16-18 stops for a single scene. but it depends on the average light levels

10K nits with PQ gamma curve on 12-bpc is rated for ~14 stops DR, which is what current high end cameras can do without a ton of noise in shadows.

pagancow
Jan 15, 2001

Video Stymie

hifi posted:

no thanks. i turn all that poo poo off. if there was a professional standard for motion blur i'd disable that too

More motion blur on a CRT than an LCD due to the gun moving waaaay fast

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

pagancow posted:

More motion blur on a CRT than an LCD due to the gun moving waaaay fast

the motion blur is the same because it 's done in software now

pagancow
Jan 15, 2001

Video Stymie

funny, i dont remember microsoft word or premiere pro having motion blur on the UI

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

pagancow posted:

10K nits isn't enough to exceed human vision for DR. Your eyes have an iris that can open and close giving you over 22 stops of dynamic range.

Human vision is around 16-18 stops for a single scene. but it depends on the average light levels

10K nits with PQ gamma curve on 12-bpc is rated for ~14 stops DR, which is what current high end cameras can do without a ton of noise in shadows.

so what youre saying is that hdr is trash and we're gonna hev to wait for hdr2.0

a neurotic ai
Mar 22, 2012

echinopsis posted:

so what youre saying is that hdr is trash and we're gonna hev to wait for hdr2.0

I believe the ultimate intention is to perfect fusion and then miniaturise the technology sufficiently such that you have a bunch of tiny suns in place of a backlight. Then bright images with literally boil your eyeballs in their sockets, working as intended.

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pagancow
Jan 15, 2001

Video Stymie

echinopsis posted:

so what youre saying is that hdr is trash and we're gonna hev to wait for hdr2.0

what im saying is that when TV manufacturers go "BIGGER! BRIGHTER! MORE COLOR!!" then there is a standard everybody is aiming for instead of just having oversaturated demo modes on store displays

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