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How's the TV series Nikita? If it is worth watching, does it require any foreknowledge of other versions of the character? I have not seen La Femme Nikita with Peta Wilson, nor have I seen the film Nikita directed by Luc Besson. However, I have seen the 1993 remake of the aforementioned Besson film, The Assassin (a.k.a. Point of No Return) starring Bridget Fonda.
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May 20, 2017 12:30
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-Blackadder- posted:It's a solid Vikings-lite show and unintentionally hilarious how much the main characters stubbornness get's him into trouble. This gets a pass from me since the show is so quick to punish him whenever he does this. Season 2 was so good.
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May 20, 2017 12:41
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Wheat Loaf posted:How's the TV series Nikita? If it is worth watching, does it require any foreknowledge of other versions of the character? I have not seen La Femme Nikita with Peta Wilson, nor have I seen the film Nikita directed by Luc Besson. However, I have seen the 1993 remake of the aforementioned Besson film, The Assassin (a.k.a. Point of No Return) starring Bridget Fonda. It's its own thing -- though there are a few cameo references and injokes referring back to the USA series from the 90's. It's fun for what it is; there are some great spy arcs, usually in the later half of each season, and the action really ramps up around episode ten (you'll know it when you see it, the episode is excellent). Generally, it manages to do a surprising amount with very little: for years it was the absolute cheapest show on the CW, but you'd never know it for looking. It's also got some really lovely set design and lighting, (much of the same crew now work on Gotham if you want to get a sense of what they can do) and it ends pretty well despite the shortened final season. On the other hand, there's some flat romantic character work, the show doesn't really do character driven arcs, and it seems to like the idea of comedy without actually knowing how to be funny. Basically many of the same faults as 12 Monkeys, who inherited some of its writers I think. It's no great, but it's a solid B.
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May 20, 2017 12:45
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The fight choreography is also notably brutal from what I remember. It's significantly better than most shows. It's not like Spartacus or anything but still.
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May 20, 2017 12:51
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Nakita is a solid B show. The cast makes up the slack.
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May 20, 2017 12:52
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Snak posted:Yeah I would be, if the US wasn't the only place on the planet that required you buy an extra Starz subscription on top of Amazon Prime to watch it.
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May 20, 2017 14:32
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Rocksicles posted:Nakita is a solid B show. The only issue to expect is they very quickly suffer from 'Alias' syndrome (I guess a more contemporary reference is 'Burn Notice'), where they have to keep inventing larger and larger organizations who have secretly been behind everything this whole time. But as Rocksicles says, the cast is so much fun to watch that you don't care.
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May 20, 2017 14:43
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Sure, I liked Alias a whole lot.
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May 20, 2017 14:53
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The only part of Nikita I didn't like was the first half of season 3. Season 2 ended with some big shakeups and I thought it took them longer than necessary to find their footing again. Overall though it's a really fun spy show with a great cast.
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May 20, 2017 15:18
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raditts posted:I would be, if the US wasn't the only place on the planet that required you buy an extra Starz subscription on top of Amazon Prime to watch it. Starz addon sub is totally worth it. You get a lot of good movies and some great shows.
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May 20, 2017 15:36
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Snak posted:Starz addon sub is totally worth it. You get a lot of good movies and some great shows. Starting around Spartacus, STARZ became a really solid channel. Party Down, Black Sails, Da Vinci's Demons, The Missing, The Girlfriend Experience. I guess people like Outlander and Power too -- I read somewhere that Power gets the second highest ratings for cable tv shows, after The Walking Dead. There've been a handful of wiffs, but it's mostly been pretty strong.
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May 20, 2017 15:48
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Addon subscriptions have made amazon prime my most used streaming service.
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May 20, 2017 15:56
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What about Revenge? Finish the sentence for me: "Revenge is recommended to people who enjoyed..."
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May 20, 2017 16:04
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Wheat Loaf posted:What about Revenge? Finish the sentence for me: "Revenge is recommended to people who enjoyed..." Revenge season 1 is kinda fun.... I bailed mid season 2 though. It's not great.
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May 20, 2017 16:06
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^^^ Same. It's pretty meh.
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May 20, 2017 16:11
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She stops actively looking for revenge in season 2 and that's when it got boring. Hiroyuki Sanada (dude from Lost) plays some kind of samurai master.
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May 20, 2017 16:12
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Wheat Loaf posted:What about Revenge? Finish the sentence for me: "Revenge is recommended to people who enjoyed..." silly-rear end nonsense
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May 20, 2017 17:25
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Wheat Loaf posted:What about Revenge? Finish the sentence for me: "Revenge is recommended to people who enjoyed..." The Count of Monte Cristo
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May 20, 2017 18:10
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Revenge is just kind of painful to watch. And there's quite a few actors that I enjoy on it which makes it hard to turn off.
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May 20, 2017 18:33
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Regy Rusty posted:The only part of Nikita I didn't like was the first half of season 3. Season 2 ended with some big shakeups and I thought it took them longer than necessary to find their footing again. Overall though it's a really fun spy show with a great cast. Yeah, I'm stalled out there. Its just not got my interest enough to go back to it over whatever other show I want to binge. The other day someone was watching Designated Survivor and I saw Maggie Q and I suddenly remembered I had to pick Nikita back up... but I'm in the middle of a 12 Monkeys S2 binge with Hap and Leonard S2, Fargo S2-3, Expanse S2, Better Call Saul S2, Black Sails S4, and probably half a dozen other shows I want to start that seem more interesting to me. I like the show well enough but I think the problem is the stuff people praise the most like the fighting choreography or cinematography aren't things I get excited for one way or another. I'm not saying I can't appreciate them but they're not important enough to make or break a show for me as they seem for others. So I'm just kind of going with the middling character work and sometimes exciting plot.
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May 20, 2017 20:39
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Wheat Loaf posted:What about Revenge? Finish the sentence for me: "Revenge is recommended to people who enjoyed..." One really strong season and then a nose-dive into badness. Seriously REVENGE was a really fun show in its first season and had a real propulsive narrative. After that though it really is all downhill.
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May 20, 2017 21:59
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Mu Zeta posted:She stops actively looking for revenge in season 2 and that's when it got boring. Hiroyuki Sanada (dude from Lost) plays some kind of samurai master. I remember we had some good laughs about the Revenge Sensei in the Revenge thread.
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May 20, 2017 23:04
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The only think I know about Revenge is that a bunch of people tried to sell it on being "literally Batman if Bruce Wayne was a woman." That always felt like a bit of a stretch to me. Count of Monte Cristo sounds more true.
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May 20, 2017 23:06
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STAC Goat posted:The only think I know about Revenge is that a bunch of people tried to sell it on being "literally Batman if Bruce Wayne was a woman." That always felt like a bit of a stretch to me. Count of Monte Cristo sounds more true. Well I mean, it WAS an adaptation of Count of Monte Cristo. So it's an apt comparison.  I still stand by the first season as being really well done, having just the right amount of drama, etc. Had it been 1-2 seasons with a proper wrap up, it would have been great. But no, it had to stretch on which meant conspiracies and love triangles and twists and turns. Of course my friends and I still say "DaaaNNNnnnNNNnnnNNnniel" whenever we see Madeline Stowe or talk about the show.
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May 20, 2017 23:10
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The baffling thing about Revenge is that it went full in on BROADER CONSPIRACIES and giving the awful family members long drawn out storylines where they didn't interact with the main character. None of them were particularly interesting on their own, their whole point was to be loathsome so you could enjoy seeing her enact a long convoluted plot to get revenge. Instead they seemed to think it was a good idea to have her stop doing anything so they could justify keeping the whole cast relatively static.
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May 20, 2017 23:16
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Yay! Trial & Error was renewed for a second season.
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May 21, 2017 00:40
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Man, Christopher Lloyd got OLD.
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May 21, 2017 02:27
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muscles like this! posted:Man, Christopher Lloyd got OLD. He played a doddering senile guy in Going in Style and I spent the whole movie kinda sadly wincing when he was on screen. He's one of those guys who looked old when he was still pretty young, and hasn't stopped aging.
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May 21, 2017 05:06
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Davros1 posted:Yay! Trial & Error was renewed for a second season. I really can't believe this, I 100% thought it was dead in the water and soft cancelled. I dunno if they're going to do a different case completely separate and elsewhere, or another edition of MURDER BOARD MURDER BOARD MURDER BOARD!
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May 21, 2017 05:22
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Couldn't tell you exactly what's they did to it, but the version of The Real Ghostbusters on Netflix is blurry and has weird neon color highlights around the edge of things. I don't know if I can keep watching this. It feels like watching a 3D movie without the glasses.
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May 21, 2017 05:41
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Lurdiak posted:Couldn't tell you exactly what's they did to it, but the version of The Real Ghostbusters on Netflix is blurry and has weird neon color highlights around the edge of things. Well, waaaaaay back when Netflix first started adding certain shows to their streaming catalog they often pulled whatever copies were handy. At one point the version of the original Transformers show they had up were the same copies that were available via Bit Torrent. It was kind of odd to watch an episode on Netflix and it had the same VHS distortion that the copy I'd priated had.
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May 21, 2017 06:31
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I used to watch Newsradio on Netflix and it had all kinds of encoding errors and the audio would start slowing down and get unsynced in multiple episodes.
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May 21, 2017 06:41
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Rhyno posted:Well, waaaaaay back when Netflix first started adding certain shows to their streaming catalog they often pulled whatever copies were handy. At one point the version of the original Transformers show they had up were the same copies that were available via Bit Torrent. It was kind of odd to watch an episode on Netflix and it had the same VHS distortion that the copy I'd priated had. Is there like, a better version on some other service?
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May 21, 2017 07:14
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Lurdiak posted:Is there like, a better version on some other service? I don't know about where it might be available, but the show has a DVD release. The Netflix caps might be straight rips from lovely transfers, but something better might exist.
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May 21, 2017 08:15
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This is supposedly a still from the DVD: And this is the same scene from the Netflix version:  Looks like some kind of anti aliasing or other effect was indeed applied to it in some misguided effort to make it cleaner, which affected the colors. The dvd quality doesn't look that great either, but it doesn't have destroyed lines or colors that hurt my eyes as much, so I guess I'll be trying to find the DVDs.  
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May 21, 2017 10:17
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You could also watch any other TV programme.
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May 21, 2017 10:29
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Well yeah, that was my plan in the interim.
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May 21, 2017 10:35
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Lurdiak posted:Well yeah, that was my plan in the interim. Don't give up on your dreams son.
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May 21, 2017 10:36
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Mu Zeta posted:I used to watch Newsradio on Netflix and it had all kinds of encoding errors and the audio would start slowing down and get unsynced in multiple episodes. Their version of Amazing Stories looked like an old RealPlayer file or something, the framerate was really choppy on top of the quality being poor. It's a shame because it's a good show with some great production values for the time.
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Lurdiak posted:This is supposedly a still from the DVD: The DVDs are as good as is available anywhere, plus there are tons of great extra materials. They explain in the little book with the Time-Life set that they tried to find the best sources available but sometimes they had less than ideal sources. There wasn't a lot of concern in saving them for the future back in the '80s.
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