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Dizz posted:okay, guy who thinks russians interfering with the election isn't considered interference because propaganda and hacking isn't somehow interference because it's not a physical thing or something? idk lol If your beef is with foreigners spreading propaganda then why not start by cleaning up this thread?
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Dizz posted:okay, guy who thinks russians interfering with the election isn't considered interference because propaganda and hacking isn't somehow interference because it's not a physical thing or something? idk lol There's no loving evidence. Wheres the evidence. Who told you this
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May 20, 2017 23:00
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 Here's an englishman interfering with the election by spreading propaganda
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May 20, 2017 23:02
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Dizz posted:okay, guy who thinks russians interfering with the election isn't considered interference because propaganda and hacking isn't somehow interference because it's not a physical thing or something? idk lol because there's a difference between using propaganda to influence an election and directly interfering in the mechanism of the elections themselves the only people who report it as "interference in the election" are those wishing to inflate what happened to give an extra push to a specific narrative, even Obama himself said that the election was not meddled with if a newspaper or television network broke that story and not Wikileaks, would it still be interference? was the pussy grabbing tape interference? or were they both forms of propaganda?
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May 20, 2017 23:02
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:There's no loving evidence. Wheres the evidence. Who told you this they see smoke and assume theres fire the smoke is coming from america burning, not trump and russian collusion. ruxin-yelling-collusion.gif
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May 20, 2017 23:02
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Snatch Duster posted:Its a great feeling when white boys call me a Nazi, fascist, libertarian, crony capitalist, and Indian when in fact my political belief is right leaning communalism. If you support the rise of Aztlan please donate to MEChA. Lol you voted for the white boy
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May 20, 2017 23:02
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http://thepoliticalinsider.com/obama-french-election-endorses-emmanuel-marcon/ Obama endorsing Marcon. America interfering with French elections.
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May 20, 2017 23:03
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SpaceGoatFarts posted:Lol you voted for the white boy I voted for a man that believes he is a rat and wears a boot on his head.
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VikingSkull posted:if a newspaper or television network broke that story and not Wikileaks, would it still be interference? YES! Just not from a foreign source, unless proven. VikingSkull posted:was the pussy grabbing tape interference? or were they both forms of propaganda? YES! What makes you think that I thought any of that other poo poo wasn't propaganda and interference? It's been well known trump has always been an rear end in a top hat, but the media never really brought out any of the real poo poo he's done and instead kept trying to pull some sexist narrative, which while i can't say if he's sexist or not, was a dumb thing to push. OXBALLS DOT COM posted:If your beef is with foreigners spreading propaganda then why not start by cleaning up this thread? My beef isn't with foreigners, only those who have no business messing with something they shouldn't be doing. Same poo poo tried to happen to the french election and thankfully the french have smarter people than the US Also; Leave foreign goons alone. They are fine to post in here and collectively laugh at you/me/us
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May 20, 2017 23:08
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Snatch Duster posted:I voted for a man that believes he is a rat and wears a boot on his head. a boot worn on the head immediately becomes a hat until you put it back on your foot, idiot
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May 20, 2017 23:10
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Dizz posted:My beef isn't with foreigners, only those who have no business messing with something they shouldn't be doing. You utter moron. Why do you think Russia would "meddle"? For fun? Or maybe because we're surrounding their country with nukes and troops while imposing economically crippling sanctions. They want Uncle Sam's boot off their loving neck. We are the aggressors. Not them.
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May 20, 2017 23:13
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We raped Russia in the 90's and are choking them out as we speak, but they release a meme and HOW DARE THEY
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May 20, 2017 23:14
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Snatch Duster posted:It seems like you are under the impression I voted for Trump. I wrote in Vermin Supreme because my state always goes Dem so I through my vote away because lol why not. did it stay blue this election
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May 20, 2017 23:18
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:
Haha disgusting he looks like some sort of amphibian
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May 20, 2017 23:21
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Dizz posted:My beef isn't with foreigners, only those who have no business messing with something they shouldn't be doing. Same poo poo tried to happen to the french election and thankfully the french have smarter people than the US Who are the ones who do have a valid business then? Also I'm not actually against foreign goons, I'm just pointing out the ridiculous hypocrisy of foreigners getting mad and spreading propaganda that other foreigners "interfered" with the election ... by spreading propaganda. I also don't think foreigners revealing true information is actually a bad thing.
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May 20, 2017 23:27
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Toadvine posted:did it stay blue this election its been blue since 1988.
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May 20, 2017 23:29
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Majorian posted:I'll bet you get all steamed when you see signs around town that say "Se Habla Español." Why would I?  A lot of my students are primary Spanish or ESOL kids, a few are helping me learn Spanish even, it's really cool
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May 20, 2017 23:40
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Snatch Duster posted:Be careful, you wouldn't want to insult a minority. It could be construed as racism. Nah, it's good to reflect upon the fact that minority groups are capable of producing horrifically stupid pieces of poo poo, just like white people. You provide a prime example of this, and we appreciate it. 
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May 20, 2017 23:46
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Majorian posted:Nah, it's good to reflect upon the fact that minority groups are capable of producing horrifically stupid pieces of poo poo, just like white people. You provide a prime example of this, and we appreciate it. careful majorian, you can say that in this thread because you are safe. say it anywhere else and there might be trouble
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May 21, 2017 00:02
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Mnoba posted:careful majorian, you can say that in this thread because you are safe. say it anywhere else and there might be trouble proof once again that Snatch Duster fucked around with this message at 00:11 on May 21, 2017 |
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May 21, 2017 00:04
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Snatch Duster posted:proof once again that mboba is an out of touch white upper middle class bitch upper lower class, my insurance premiums went up 120 a month this year 
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May 21, 2017 00:07
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Mnoba posted:upper lower class, my insurance premiums went up 120 a month this year poo poo i meant majorian but i wrote mnoba, but good for you.
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May 21, 2017 00:11
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:You utter moron. Why do you think Russia would "meddle"? For fun? Or maybe because we're surrounding their country with nukes and troops while imposing economically crippling sanctions. It's not happening like that without reason.
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Snatch Duster posted:poo poo i meant majorian but i wrote mnoba, but good for you. ya i figured but my white guilt stepped in and i just went ahead and took it
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Trump is giving a speech on radical ideologies this Sunday. I think it would behoove certain people to listen and believe and learn.
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May 21, 2017 00:13
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Poetic Justice posted:Trump is giving a speech on radical ideologies this Sunday. I think it would behoove certain people to listen and believe and learn. People should believe Trump because ____ ?
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:You utter moron. Why do you think Russia would "meddle"? For fun? Or maybe because we're surrounding their country with nukes and troops while imposing economically crippling sanctions. - Russia is lovely and is a bad neighbor, and the ultra-corrupt Soviet mindset of its politicians still exists to a large degree, i.e. see Ukraine, Victor Yanukovich's government was poo poo to its people. See Poland, escaped USSR's grasp and became much, much better over the next 20 years. - Despite the United States' assistance in ousting Victor Yanukovich and Co., Ukraine still remains crap, and most of its anti-corruption measures are meaningless and for show. My sister-in-law has a sister back in Ukraine, western Ukraine, that works in a hybrid government post, has to fake numbers to show some anti-corruption is working. For example, arresting a small time judge who for years gave favorable rulings for a little cash here and there. Still, the ones truly oppressing the people, with a massive effect on the country, remain untouched. - It's hard to say if Ukraine stays corrupt *in spite* of Western influence, or as a result of it. Maybe the existing corruption is just incredibly hard for a country on the other side of the world to help remove. Maybe the USA doesn't care and just wants access to its resources, businesses, etc. - Russia deserves its sanctions. - Russia did meddle via paid-for alternative media, internet shills, and hacking/Wikileaks. As for Wikileaks all it really did is expose corruption. I'm glad it did it, even if Russia itself is a horrible country and worse than the USA. - The USA did screw with Russia a little in the 90s, so Russia did find out its not part of the cool kids club and is trying to regain some power on its own. - I think the goal of the Republican establishment is to prevent wealthy people from getting taxed more, while pretending to give a poo poo about family values, pretending to support racism and religion and dogwhistling support. - I think the goal of the Democrat establishment is to pretend to be the poor man's choice but repeatedly hamstringing their own ability because wealthy people/organizations pay them too. They make some progress but at a snails pace. Hence loving shitbag Joe Lieberman tanking the public option for universal health care that loving lovely swine of a horrible human being. - I think Trump wanted to make a name for himself by being different although he's basically a bootstrap Republican. He may be the lightning rod meant to attract the tea partier types, then make them look dumb at the same time so the Republican voter goes aww shucks maybe Richie McRich "Mitt Romney" is the only one who can really represent us xenophobic Christian abortion haters, let's never call them RINOs ever again! Just my thoughts.
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Runaktla posted:My thoughts, Russia vs. United States... Russia is not my enemy
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May 21, 2017 00:29
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Putin might say "The USA is calling someone evil, that's funny"
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Runaktla posted:My thoughts, Russia vs. United States... Your words will not find fertile minds in this thread, I'm sorry.
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Hello thread im back. Oh it seems like lol trump is still fine
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This summer is going to get interesting, will it be the summer of rage with mass riots/protests with all the kids being out of college? Anyone willing to take bets?
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May 21, 2017 00:54
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Even if Trump ran as a republican, he's claimed to be a democrat for decades, so if he fails it's basically a failure of Obamas third term.
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May 21, 2017 00:54
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If he's good then the party of Lincoln wins again
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May 21, 2017 00:55
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Dizz posted:Your words will not find fertile minds in this thread, I'm sorry. drat 
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May 21, 2017 00:56
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaf1dKm8444 RADICAL CENTER! 
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May 21, 2017 00:58
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blugu64 posted:Even if Trump ran as a republican, he's claimed to be a democrat for decades, so if he fails it's basically a failure of Obamas third term. blugu64 posted:If he's good then the party of Lincoln wins again This is the kind of positive thinking we need nowadays!
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May 21, 2017 01:01
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Dizz posted:YES! Just not from a foreign source, unless proven. Here is what you're missing, and I'm trying to point out to you, but you're either not getting it or being willfully obtuse. The media refers to it as interfering in the election, to make dumb people think "hey, they tampered with the election process!" and therefor assume that the vote itself was somehow tainted. What really happened was the Russians used propaganda to influence people's thoughts on the election, but the election itself was untouched and perfectly valid. Both sides are using propaganda to influence how people think, to create an atmosphere that makes them act a certain way. This isn't me defending Trump, I'm pointing out that the election was fair and people are using misinformation, on both sides, to influence the thinking of a common person.
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As far as propaganda goes, leaking internal documents that even the Democrats have never questioned the authenticity of is pretty drat benign if not a wholly good thing. Doing bad things with good intentions is bad, imo, but doing good things with bad intentions is not bad
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Propaganda in and of itself is a common tool used by nearly every world government in some capacity.
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