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Sakurazuka posted:Is the currently airing in Japan season of AoT really on Toonami? Probably, they've done it with other stuff like space dandy and dimension w. It's usually a few episodes behind is all I think.
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Yeah, it's a few eps behind, but it's airing.
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May 21, 2017 06:28
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May 21, 2017 06:31
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https://u.nya.is/mkjmhr.webm dunk squad
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May 21, 2017 07:37
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how can lebron be better than jordan when he isn't even better than gran
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May 21, 2017 07:41
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These are from the Blame! movie?
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May 21, 2017 09:48
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Yeah it's really good.
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May 21, 2017 10:06
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Waffleman_ posted:I dunno, I've been watching it on Toonami and it's still kinda boring. That's because dubs are bad
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May 21, 2017 11:24
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My Hero Academia dub is really, really good
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May 21, 2017 12:24
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Namtab posted:That's because dubs are bad I don't think watching it in Japanese is going to make it any more interesting.
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May 21, 2017 15:46
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Namtab posted:That's because dubs are bad
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May 21, 2017 19:19
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Grouchio posted:Except if it's Black Lagoon, Baccano or Code Geass. Or Space Dandy, Cowboy Bebop and Gun X Sword.
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May 21, 2017 19:59
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The only good dubs are Cyber City Oedo and the Fist of the Northstar movie
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May 21, 2017 20:15
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actually, i think you'll find that dubs are good https://files.catbox.moe/gx650n.mp4
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May 21, 2017 21:05
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if there is a dub you like of a show and you can't speak japanese, i don't really see the point of watching the sub instead.
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May 21, 2017 21:14
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:if there is a dub you like of a show and you can't speak japanese, i don't really see the point of watching the sub instead. A dub can be good while still having worse performances than the original. Madoka, Haruhi come to mind.
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May 21, 2017 21:50
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:if there is a dub you like of a show and you can't speak japanese, i don't really see the point of watching the sub instead. well, im not a retarded american thats afraid of having to read some words while i watch something
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May 21, 2017 21:55
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:if there is a dub you like of a show and you can't speak japanese, i don't really see the point of watching the sub instead. There are a couple: 1. There's approximately 3 english-speaking voice actors, and between anime and games you'll get sick of their voices fairly quickly. 2. It's not like you don't listen to the audio, and sometimes you can find glimpses of the wordplay when things rhyme or whatever, which usually doesn't translate well to a dub. 3. Those 3 English voice actors are fairly poor at pronouncing the Japanese words (like names) they need to. Case in point, "Canoy" from Mayo Chiki. Also, pronouns and honorifics, which helps with the understanding of the way someone's talking, which in the current translation paradigm are not preserved. Case in point: "Ore-sama" or "Watakushi-sama" from Tsugumomo/Majikoi or Seto no Hanayome, respectively. 4. The recording process is seemingly different on average between the original recording session and the dub recording session. Whereas the original session will have multiple actors in a room playing off one another, whereas the dub often seems to be recorded by single actors in their own isolation booths. It also adds an extra level of interpretation between the way the original voice director depicted it (perhaps in collaboration with the original creator) and how we hear it. 5. I'm working on learning to understand Japanese, and hearing the original voices helps with later recognizing vocabulary words and pronunciations. On a completely different note: Uchouten Kazoku still owns and I can't wait for next week's episode. Based on the preview, it seems like we'll finally be learning more about the best character.
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it's good when honorifics aren't preserved in dubs the actual problem with dubs is when you get something like maidragon The Colonel fucked around with this message at 22:10 on May 21, 2017 |
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May 21, 2017 22:08
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The Colonel posted:it's good when honorifics aren't preserved in dubs Depends on the show, IMO. K-On or any other show about Japanese people who live in Japan and speak Japanese should leave them in, something like Gundam or Izetta or something where there's no strong reason to think that people are speaking Japanese specifically don't need to bother.
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May 21, 2017 22:10
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Davincie posted:well, im not a retarded american thats afraid of having to read some words while i watch something lol at this big dumb baby
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May 21, 2017 22:11
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Spiritus Nox posted:Depends on the show, IMO. K-On or any other show about Japanese people who live in Japan and speak Japanese should leave them in, something like Gundam or Izetta or something where there's no strong reason to think that people are speaking Japanese specifically don't need to bother. If it's so Japanese they need honorifics in maybe they shouldn't bother dubbing it in the first place.
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May 21, 2017 22:11
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a lot of the dubs people are listing as good itt just copy the voice direction from the original performance. so i mean, it's not like you'd necessarily get an inferior experience. but at that point it kinda makes me question what worth the dub has, as a person who is not incapable of reading subtitles.
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May 21, 2017 22:12
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Honorifics in English sound dumb, and they only carry extra meaning if you already know what they mean. Which the vast majority of English speakers don't.
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May 21, 2017 22:12
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dogsicle posted:a lot of the dubs people are listing as good itt just copy the voice direction from the original performance. so i mean, it's not like you'd necessarily get an inferior experience. but at that point it kinda makes me question what worth the dub has, as a person who is not incapable of reading subtitles. Yeah this is how I feel about it too. At best, you get something as good as the original, and often you get something worse. What's the point?
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May 21, 2017 22:15
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Guy Goodbody posted:Honorifics in English sound dumb, and they only carry extra meaning if you already know what they mean. Which the vast majority of English speakers don't. What percentage of anime-watching English speakers, though? Anyway... the way I took to read the question is "What does the Japanese voice track provide over the dub if you're not fluent in Japanese?". Honorifics and personal pronouns are one of those things. I'm not arguing that they should be included in the dub, but I appreciate their existence in the JP track. Kytrarewn fucked around with this message at 22:20 on May 21, 2017 |
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May 21, 2017 22:17
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Droyer posted:Yeah this is how I feel about it too. At best, you get something as good as the original, and often you get something worse. What's the point? Sometimes when I'm casually watching a show, I like to be able to glance away occasionally and follow via audio. With subs, you have to keep your eyes glued to the screen throughout.
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May 21, 2017 22:18
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Guy Goodbody posted:Honorifics in English sound dumb, and they only carry extra meaning if you already know what they mean. Which the vast majority of English speakers don't. Maybe they should consider learning what these things mean.
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May 21, 2017 22:18
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Kytrarewn posted:What percentage of anime-watching English speakers, though? It's definitely possible to carry all that into a natural English script, but it relies on context and a lot of effort, which is usually asking too much of all simulcasts and most dubs.
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May 21, 2017 22:18
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Kytrarewn posted:What percentage of anime-watching English speakers, though? Yeah, that's the whole thing, if you're nerdy enough to know what all the different honorifics mean, then you're probably gonna be watching the subs anyway. If you're watching the dub, then the honorifics probably won't have any meaning to you, it'll just be weird.
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May 21, 2017 22:19
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Not this discussion again.
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May 21, 2017 22:20
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Man you guys just dove in huh.
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May 21, 2017 22:21
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StandardVC10 posted:Not this discussion again. It's okay
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May 21, 2017 22:29
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StandardVC10 posted:Not this discussion again. yeah we never even finished ranking all the kyoani series, let's go back to that
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May 21, 2017 22:30
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I think the better question is doms vs subs.
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May 21, 2017 22:36
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There Bias Two posted:Sometimes when I'm casually watching a show, I like to be able to glance away occasionally and follow via audio. With subs, you have to keep your eyes glued to the screen throughout. i just pause stuff constantly 
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Lemon-Lime posted:Maybe they should consider learning what these things mean. honorifics aren't nearly as meaningful as people like to pretend they are and their meaning can be communicated via tone and good performances/writing edit: also most modern dub vas are okay and jp vaing isn't as good as people like to pretend it is, either. however a lot of dub scripts are pretty bad. see: the funi dragon maid dub scrubbing out like seven instances of implied romance and adding in some weird lines because funimation is run by rick santorum
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if you have actors you really like and their voice is sex in your ears that's reason enough imo, whether they're english or japanese. personally i'm attached to most jp-lady seiyuu so I'll choose them every time. and then there's the abundance of cute dialects, catchphrases, vocal tics, etc. that makes the sub option much more appealing.
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Yeah, I'm not sure why but sometimes the Japanese voice actors can be hypnotic in ways that I haven't quite heard in dubs. Like I could listen to Nino from ACCA or Yukino from Oregairu reciting economic statistics and I'd probably enjoy it. Might it just be the difference in talent levels? Are dub voice actors decently paid?
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Guy Goodbody posted:yeah we never even finished ranking all the kyoani series, let's go back to that K-on!, hyouka, nichijou, and the rest
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