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whatis
Jun 6, 2012
Rule 40.4
Automatic Suspension – Category III
Any player who, by his actions, physically demeans an official or physically threatens an official by (but not limited to) throwing a stick or any other piece of equipment or object at or in the general direction of an official, shooting the puck at or in the general direction of an official, spitting at or in the general direction of an official, or who deliberately applies physical force to an official solely for the purpose of getting free of such an official during or immediately following an altercation shall be suspended for not less than three (3) games.

perry did the exact thing the rule says you aren't allowed to do. and given what has happened in the past year as it relates to abuse of officials, you would think the league would do the smart thing and come down on him with the mandatory 3 game suspension.

but yeah, playoffs, maybe?

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Sharks Eat Bear
Dec 25, 2004

whatis posted:



perry did the exact thing the rule says you aren't allowed to do. and given what has happened in the past year as it relates to abuse of officials, you would think the league would do the smart thing and come down on him with the mandatory 3 game suspension.

but yeah, playoffs, maybe?

I would love to hear the frantic rationalization happening behind closed doors to try to justify not suspending him

Benson Cunningham
Dec 9, 2006

Chief of J.U.N.K.E.R. H.Q.
That looks pretty cut and dry. But if the minimum suspension is 3 games, I just can't imagine they give it to him in Game 6 of the conference finals.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Benson Cunningham posted:

Game 6 of the conference finals

There's your backroom justification.

Abner Assington
Mar 13, 2005

For I am a sinner in the hands of an angry god. Bloody Mary, full of vodka, blessed are you among cocktails. Pray for me now, at the hour of my death, which I hope is soon.

Amen.
Just revoke all rules for the playoffs and let players put nails and broken glass on the backside of their gloves so they can really maim each other.

Because It's the Cup™

Schremp Howard
Jul 18, 2010

What attitude problem?
The NHL has always done their bullshit of treating playoff games as more valuable than regular season games so hoping for anything more than a game is a pipedream.

And even if they do get something right they just change their mind down the line like they did with the Devils forfeiting picks for the Kovalchuk contract.

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


One of the most refreshing things about watching world championship games has been the much more reasonable and consistent standard the IIHF calls. I didn't realize how much I hate the put the whistles away poo poo at this point. I don't expect the NHL to apply it's rules in games and certainly don't expect them to do anything about Perry.

T-Bone
Sep 14, 2004

jakes did this?
IIHF refereeing is notoriously bad and the games I watched (mainly the US admittedly) were no different. There were like 3-4 headshots that went completely uncalled and they're absolutely indifferent to interference, even moreso than the NHL.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

The reality is that there will always be controversial calls and missed calls, but IIHF refereeing is worlds better than NHL refereeing, which is a downright joke.

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe

Kilza posted:

The reality is that there will always be controversial calls and missed calls, but IIHF refereeing is worlds better than NHL refereeing, which is a downright joke.

I don't agree with that at all. Imo NHL reffing is by far the best out of the four major North American sports, and they generally do a pretty good job. I'd like to see them enforce interference rules more strictly, but that's clearly a mandate they've put in place to try and reduce concussions.

Soft Shell Crab
Apr 12, 2006

Worst reffing and refs I know are from IIHF.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Kilza posted:

The reality is that there will always be controversial calls and missed calls, but IIHF refereeing is worlds better than NHL refereeing, which is a downright joke.

But like McLellan said when the ref brought his whistle up to call the obvious too much mans and then didn't, I can forgive them for not calling what they don't see, but when they see it and don't call it, it's a problem.

The thing that's bugged me most about these playoffs is a crosscheck well after the whistle, and then penalizing the victim for responding in any way. like you can go around after the whislte slashing dudes as long as you do it before they slash you, or it's retaliation and it's 2 minutes.

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


I wasn't really meaning to appreciate the refs' skill at the world championship; I agree that the refs in the NHL are best. What I ought to have said about the IIHF reffing is that I like the standard of officiating they are using. They might miss poo poo, but they call the rules closer to the book and don't let stupid poo poo go if they see it.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Ginette Reno posted:

I don't agree with that at all. Imo NHL reffing is by far the best out of the four major North American sports, and they generally do a pretty good job. I'd like to see them enforce interference rules more strictly, but that's clearly a mandate they've put in place to try and reduce concussions.

Shouldn't you be working, Mr Peel?

runoverbobby
Apr 21, 2007

Fighting like beavers.
It's difficult to say that a "by the book" standard exists in hockey. The rules allow referees to set their own standards, e.g. Rule 41 (boarding) says "There is an enormous amount of judgment involved in the application of this rule by the Referees" and the rules for elbowing and charging say a referee "may, at his discretion" assess a penalty "based on the degree of violence".

Disagreements are bound to arise over what degree of violence constitutes a penalty.

Wonderllama
Mar 15, 2003

anyone wanna andreyfuck?
Why can't people just call interference and pick plays? It's super simple to just not allow defenseman to grab a hold of forwards. And it would cause defenseman to pivot and chase the puck, which they are gonna lose many times, and lead to offensive opportunities. Also, why do kids love the taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

:fork:

Go.... um.., Preds?

hyper from Pixie Sticks
Sep 28, 2004

Sharks Eat Bear posted:

I would love to hear the frantic rationalization happening behind closed doors to try to justify not suspending him

"Gary Bettman announced that this is a serious matter, and Corey Perry will have to answer for his actions at a hearing on July 1st"

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

Wonderllama posted:

Why can't people just call interference and pick plays? It's super simple to just not allow defenseman to grab a hold of forwards. And it would cause defenseman to pivot and chase the puck, which they are gonna lose many times, and lead to offensive opportunities. Also, why do kids love the taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch

Because it leads to guys flying into the offensive zone too fast. The pick plays are a safety measure.

It leads to worse hockey but this is a legit problem with the sport. Not sure what the solution is short of removing contact entirely.

Wonderllama
Mar 15, 2003

anyone wanna andreyfuck?

Jordan7hm posted:

Because it leads to guys flying into the offensive zone too fast. The pick plays are a safety measure.

It leads to worse hockey but this is a legit problem with the sport. Not sure what the solution is short of removing contact entirely.

Haha. No. Not all are dumps. They bounce it off the wall adjacent to the defenseman. This is 100% the refs not wanting to cal everything. But that has historically already happened once (in 2005/2006) they just allowed themselves to be lax again. It's totes a decision, and they could do it.

Also, in the "stupid loving idea" department. My idea to fix the league is to call intentional icing when a defenseman is unable to keep the puck in the zone, and then is under pressure by the opposing forwards, so he dumps the puck in and the team clears the zone. If you make the defenseman play the puck, it would lead to mistakes. Get this idea to the gm table. Asap.

The Dirty Burger
Aug 24, 2007

1st team all star
+
2nd degree manslaughter
=
3rd world clothing line
Happy Birthday Craig Anderson!

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line
jesus sens

real_scud
Sep 5, 2002

One of these days these elbows are gonna walk all over you

The Dirty Burger posted:

Happy Birthday Craig Anderson!
I'm a giant Pens fan but even as that I felt bad for him after he got pulled after the 3rd, got put back in after a commercial break and then immediately had the 4th scored on him.

That said, holy poo poo did the Pens look entirely different today. :woop:

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

The Dirty Burger posted:

Happy Birthday Craig Anderson!

I got him a present

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Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe
Welp two chances to get back to the finals. Sully is pretty incredible.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

Well, Pens are clearly going to win this series, no way back for the Sens. Stick the :fork: in them.

Much like the Sharks beating the Oilers 7-0 and the Oilers beating the Ducks 7-1 the Pens got this series all locked up. No need to play Game 6.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Not even Cherry's defending that lovely headshot from Wingels

I mean, yeah they got blown out, but they got blown out in the fifth game of the ECF in a year they weren't supposed to make the playoffs. I have no idea where I'm going with this so gently caress Cody Ceci and Dion Phaneuf.

Sharks Eat Bear
Dec 25, 2004

Kilza posted:

Well, Pens are clearly going to win this series, no way back for the Sens. Stick the :fork: in them.

Much like the Sharks beating the Oilers 7-0 and the Oilers beating the Ducks 7-1 the Pens got this series all locked up. No need to play Game 6.

The key difference is that the pens are better than all those teams, and the Sens are worse hth

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011

Kilza posted:

Well, Pens are clearly going to win this series, no way back for the Sens. Stick the :fork: in them.

Much like the Sharks beating the Oilers 7-0 and the Oilers beating the Ducks 7-1 the Pens got this series all locked up. No need to play Game 6.
Pretty sure intentional :fork:-doomsaying doesn't work like that.

Look Around You
Jan 19, 2009

loving bullshit cheapshot by wingles on wilson there at the end too.

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

Sharks Eat Bear posted:

The key difference is that the pens are better than all those teams, and the Sens are worse hth

Especially if Karlsson is busted beyond repair. I guess it remains to be seen but the Pens are getting hot again. It's all Murray.

myron cope
Apr 21, 2009

Well that was super lovely by Wingels at the end.

I hope Karlsson misses the rest of the series. Purely because I want the Penguins to win, I have no ill will toward him.

Also that Rust Bonino Rowney line was putting in some work, goddamn

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Kilza posted:

the Pens got this series all locked up. No need to play Game 6.

i mean if karlsson can't play game 6 then i feel like that's gotta be as much of a foregone conclusion as the very random game of hockey can have

edit: maybe he will play?

https://twitter.com/OtherNHLCrosby/status/866414599305691136

but its the playoffs so who knows what's actually going on

Pornographic Memory fucked around with this message at 23:07 on May 21, 2017

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/866414666389626880

They did this with Karlsson during Sens-Rangers Game 4, I'm not shocked they did it today when they had no chance of coming back.

Mage_Boy
Dec 18, 2003

This hotdog is about as real as your story Steve Simmons




How many times has a team been shut out by two different goalies in the same round?

D-LINK
Oct 1, 2007

I was talking to peachy Peach about kissy Kiss. He bought me a soda.

Kilza posted:

Well, Pens are clearly going to win this series, no way back for the Sens. Stick the :fork: in them.

Much like the Sharks beating the Oilers 7-0 and the Oilers beating the Ducks 7-1 the Pens got this series all locked up. No need to play Game 6.

Is this like reverse juju or something? Idk if the Sens are done, but it sure isn't a good sign when you let Ollie Mattaa score on you in consecutive games. I mean, come on

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Kilza posted:

https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/866414666389626880

They did this with Karlsson during Sens-Rangers Game 4, I'm not shocked they did it today when they had no chance of coming back.

2 of these things are not like the other. 2 of these things just do not belong in a hockey rink.

FBS
Apr 27, 2015

The real fun of living wisely is that you get to be smug about it.

https://twitter.com/PredsPR/status/866413416008876033

Pro-tip: Don't look up "Compartment Syndrome" on Wikipedia

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
https://twitter.com/OtherNHLCrosby/status/866427246864719872

malkin :allears:

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Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
quote is not edit :sigh:

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