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I've wanted Dean to do that "Hit DDT, keep the arms locked, pull them back up, gently caress YOU, second DDT." thing forever. Roode finally did it, so. He is cool. Like, in all seriousness, I really didn't buy Roode as anything except the dude with meme music, but that match really solidified him as a very strong champ to me and Hideo was a big part of that. His first win against Nakamura was kinda BS, but besides that it's refreshing that his championship reign has mostly just been him being really fuckin' good. MJeff fucked around with this message at 06:15 on May 22, 2017 |
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Itami vs Roode was fantastic. They told this awesome story of Roode not taking Itami seriously at all and Itami slowly going to all his greatest hits and slapping the poo poo out of Roode. That match ruled really hard.
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Yeah, that was the first time I've really been impressed by Roode in the ring. For a guy his age, it'd be easy to just coast on the music and heel posturing, but he brought his working boots for that match and it was really drat good.
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I enjoyed Roode and Itami calling back to the finish of Roode/Nakamura 1, to the point where I bought the near fall so hard I yelled "fuckin bullshit" like the Iron Sheik. Then Itami kicked out of Roode's finisher and boy did I have egg on my face. Great match.
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I still don't see AOP's upside.
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VJeff posted:I've wanted Dean to do that "Hit DDT, keep the arms locked, pull them back up, gently caress YOU, second DDT." thing forever. Roode finally did it, so. He is cool. There's still time this element of dumb luck in all of Roode's wins (Nakamura's knee, the GTS knocking his lifeless body out of the ring) that leaves me feeling like he's really good but absolutely wouldn't win without those small turns of fortune. It's perfect for a strong heel champion because he comes across as both deserving of the championship but also infuriatingly still champ.
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Muddy Burphy posted:I still don't see AOP's upside. Monster heel tag team who have a bunch of potential because they are both only 23ish and are already fairly decent workers?
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Charles Gnarwin posted:There's still time this element of dumb luck in all of Roode's wins (Nakamura's knee, the GTS knocking his lifeless body out of the ring) that leaves me feeling like he's really good but absolutely wouldn't win without those small turns of fortune. It's perfect for a strong heel champion because he comes across as both deserving of the championship but also infuriatingly still champ.
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Midnightghoul posted:Is he still alive? Terminal case of broken heart
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freud mayweather posted:I enjoyed Roode and Itami calling back to the finish of Roode/Nakamura 1, to the point where I bought the near fall so hard I yelled "fuckin bullshit" like the Iron Sheik. Then Itami kicked out of Roode's finisher and boy did I have egg on my face. Great match. I liked Roode getting his karmic payback for working Nakamura's bad leg two matches in a row when he got his shoulder rammed into the post (with appropriate theatric 'OH GOD' sell)and Itami started attacking it right back. Bobby roode is really good, you guys.
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Muddy Burphy posted:I still don't see AOP's upside. They move kinda stupidly well for how young they are, already. They're not like workrate masters or anything, but they have tons of upside. We're about to see how much of that upside is actually them and how much of it was Revival and DIY being incredible, though.
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Blasmeister posted:Bobby roode is really good, you guys. hard pass
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Are Heavy Machinery the only face tag right now? There's like 3 active tag teams from what I can tell, if you count Sanity.
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nxt created one of the best tag teams in the world by arbitrarily putting two guys together I don't see why they can't do it again with the talent pool they've got
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oatgan posted:nxt created one of the best tag teams in the world by arbitrarily putting two guys together I don't see why they can't do it again with the talent pool they've got I agree with oatgan, we should randomly put together Johnny Gargano with as many dudes as possible.
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oatgan posted:nxt created one of the best tag teams in the world by arbitrarily putting two guys together I don't see why they can't do it again with the talent pool they've got But enough about Tino and Riddick
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Lars Sullivan and Tyler Bate, the strongmen
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Roode really is Triple H - a great worker that fans resent because they can
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Basic Chunnel posted:Roode really is Triple H - a great worker that fans resent because they can insofar that their "base" matches are boring slogs masquerading as epics, and they are only truly "great" when they are broken out from this excruciating formula by opponents who can drag out that little bit of extra effort from them, be that good smoke and mirrors gimmick booking, better pacing that's not selling fatigue by laying around on the canvas for a minute after a move, or heightened in-match storytelling that's not just "do heatless limbwork for fifteen minutes, do a finisher reversal and go home," or the litany of other agenting that HHH did great in 2000-01 but turned away from after the quad injury they're both good baselines - sure, they'll put on a fine show but you'll always get the feeling that someone else in their position could be doing so much more. for Roode, does this exist on NXT's current roster? I don't know! but I think it does Bard Maddox fucked around with this message at 19:34 on May 22, 2017 |
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Basic Chunnel posted:Roode really is Triple H - a great worker that fans resent because they can Roode is a guy who can put on a main-event level match with anyone and have the fans hate him every second it is happening because nothing he does is flashy other than his entrance. He's going to be huge on the main roster.
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Crossposting this here since this is probably a better thread for itPetit Gregory posted:Someone requested this from one of the threads, I can't remember which
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oatgan posted:nxt created one of the best tag teams in the world by arbitrarily putting two guys together I don't see why they can't do it again with the talent pool they've got I think the Authors of Pain are related tho? Hardly arbitrary.
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RacistGuidingLight posted:I think the Authors of Pain are related tho? Hardly arbitrary. Actually they're not which surprises me a bit. You could tell me they're brothers and I'd believe you.
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They're not even the same ethnicity. One is an Albanian from the Netherlands and one is a Punjabi from Canada.  Now if AoP had come out and murdered Randy Orton, that I would've been okay with! It's unironically kind of an awesome optical illusion though. If you really, really look at their faces, you can tell, but slap 'em in the same gear, cut their hair and their facial hair the same and stick super old super white Paul Ellering in there for contrast and they look like loving clones of each other. MJeff fucked around with this message at 22:28 on May 22, 2017 |
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that loving heel turn was perfect. the months long slow build to it, and then the fake out that lulled you into a false sense of relief while the copyright logo popped up, and then having it happen was brilliant. chaimpa looked like a legit psycho killer. also, bruiserweight rules.
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Meltzer is absolutely correct that Dunne should be on the main show right now. That dude just carries himself like a star. He looks like the most miserable son of a bitch and is a great wrestler on top of that.
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The_Rob posted:Meltzer is absolutely correct that Dunne should be on the main show right now. That dude just carries himself like a star. He looks like the most miserable son of a bitch and is a great wrestler on top of that. Like all truly great heels he's apparently the nicest guy in real life.
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NXT would be a lot less forgettable week to week if it was focused more on the actual developmental talent and less on the top indy guys they keep in NXT too long so Takeover can be the better show of the weekend.
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Everyone seems to forget that regardless of teachers and facilities, wrestling is a very hard thing to get good at. They haven't had a ton of success with from scratch people at the PC, but they've done well enough. Not everyone is going to work. Every indie guy coming in has a dozen or more dudes they came up with in their wake who never did poo poo. It's a long, tough process and it's always going to have to be supplemented with professionals.
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VJeff posted:It's unironically kind of an awesome optical illusion though. If you really, really look at their faces, you can tell, but slap 'em in the same gear, cut their hair and their facial hair the same and stick super old super white Paul Ellering in there for contrast and they look like loving clones of each other.
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The issue isn't the presence of the top-tier guys. The issue is how long they stay in NXT. Anyone who's proven themselves on the indies is likely in their mid to late 30s so their shelf life before time and injury starts limiting them on the main roster is already short, and I can't imagine they need more than 3-6 months to pick up the basics of 'WWE Style' before they join the main roster. Balor's nearly 36 and spent 2 years in NXT. Nakamura's 37 and spent a year there. Joe's 38 and spent 18 months there. Roode is 39 and he'll probably be there until Mania. Most of them aren't even wrestling the performance center talent, they just feud with other indy transplants. If they're coming in and they're useful to the main roster (as opposed to signing guys just so the other feds can't have them, which I suppose could be the reason for some of the signings) get them in for a few months and one, maybe two Takeovers and use them where they can actually be seen and make money.
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It seems like WWE missed the boat on some of these Indy guys when they were younger and less injury prone, but now will probably start going after the young indy talent like your Adam Coles and Lio Rush's.
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achillesforever6 posted:Ah yes the Basham effect I saw some of OVW TV so I remembered Doug because he was the one with the beard and his real name was Basham.
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CubsWoo posted:The issue isn't the presence of the top-tier guys. The issue is how long they stay in NXT. Anyone who's proven themselves on the indies is likely in their mid to late 30s so their shelf life before time and injury starts limiting them on the main roster is already short, and I can't imagine they need more than 3-6 months to pick up the basics of 'WWE Style' before they join the main roster. I don't think they care though. The primary purpose still seems to be using NXT to prove to shareholders, etc., that Hunter can handle the job of replacing vince one day.
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Is Chris Hero still in NXT? Or was that just a quick temporary thing?
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triplexpac posted:Is Chris Hero still in NXT? Or was that just a quick temporary thing? He's still there and it looks like he's going to be feuding with Itami.
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sportsgenius86 posted:He's still there and it looks like he's going to be feuding with Itami. This will be very good.
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Chris Hero is Kassius Ohno right? He rules
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