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I don't know. I mean, the two episodes were good and like well made. But I didn't really fall in love with it like some people did here. Maybe I'll need to rewatch them because I barely understood anything that happened.
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May 22, 2017 12:10
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I just mainlined four hours of Twin Peaks and I don't think I know which way is up anymore. There's so much I love and so much more I could say, but what I really hits home is that 'Dougie' is breaking my heart, goddamn.
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:I don't know. I mean, the two episodes were good and like well made. But I didn't really fall in love with it like some people did here. Maybe I'll need to rewatch them because I barely understood anything that happened. My comment to this is that if you are... trying to "understand" what is "happening" in any literal sense, you are going about watching Lynch in the wrong way entirely. Things can just happen, in a Lynch film. A scene might have no point or purpose but to make you feel a certain way, or to evoke something symbolic. What may seem meaningful is likely meaningless, and what can seem utterly confounding and meanginless is likely full of meaning when you start digging deeper and cease viewing it as a narrative going by any set of rules - there are no rules, and sometimes the narrative jumps out the window completely for long periods of time. Lynch doesn't "do" traditional narrative, so if you go in expecting anything that's really on par with TV in terms of expected tropes, you're going to be slapped in the face a fish fresh from a coffee pot trying to watch this stuff. edit: On a totally random note, I really wanna compliment Lynch on the fantastic use of that chopped and screwed remix of American Woman. That was just *badass* and weird and creepy. kaworu fucked around with this message at 13:03 on May 22, 2017 |
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May 22, 2017 12:57
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I'm also super on boardwith Chrysta Bell playing TP from the Secret History
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cptn_dr posted:I'm also super on boardwith Chrysta Bell playing TP from the Secret History Makes me think Lynch was being misleading when he said he never read Secret History.
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Raxivace posted:It seems like there were a few nods to that in Eps 3 and 4. Brando talking about Lewis and Clark for example, and IIRC Bobby's description of Garland's final days is actually straight from that book too. You musn't forget Frost is also writing the show, and Frost wrote the book. Whether Lynch has read it or not I'm sure references will continue to find a way in.
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May 22, 2017 13:20
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Yeah honestly I've got no excuse for just flat out forgetting Frost was still attached to this for a moment lol.
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May 22, 2017 13:24
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Loving this, what else is auteur TV on this level other than like Horace and Pete?
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So Dougie is a doppelganger trap laid by Bob, so Dougie would get pulled back to the lodge rather than Bob. Letting Bob get off free in his shell after the 25 years. Coop's mental status probably comes from not returning to his true self. And honestly I thought the coffee would do the trick. What I can't explain is why Dougieganger has the ring. Arach fucked around with this message at 13:39 on May 22, 2017 |
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May 22, 2017 13:37
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I enjoyed the first two seasons but thought FWWM was utter wank so this is falling a bit flat with me after the first 2 episodes. Gonna take a break and watch 3 and 4 a little later on.
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 i lost my poo poo when jacoby removed his glasses... to reveal he is wearing his other glasses. i didn't even realise it was him to start and i loved it. wally brando is amazing. the alien ghost is horrifying
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Under the vegetable posted:I thought it was some kind of protection against soul transference. Laura wears it when Bob tries to possess her at the end of Fire Walk With Me, but then he can't, so he just murders her instead. In FWWM I feel the ring marked Bob's sacrifices. Laura put it on so Bob would have to kill her instead of possess her. Dougie was sacrificed by Bob so he could stay Everything is awesome so far.
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Cant get the first two episodes out of my head (waiting til next week for 3&4). Probably going to re-watch tonight. Just wish I could watch all 18 episodes uninterrupted right now.
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May 22, 2017 14:02
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Cool thing we noticed when watching was that blue rose in a vase in the blind lady's room.
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sticklefifer posted:Loved the original series and even slogged through the James bits in season 2 on multiple rewatches, but the vibe of this feels off to me. I feel like you can get away with a glacial pace like Better Call Saul, or you can get away with being super weird and artsy/abstract like Legion/Leftovers, or you can get away with tons of new characters like Game of Thrones, but all three at once is so disorienting that it's hard for me to watch sometimes, especially with so much time spent on new characters. I'm only 2 episodes in so far and I do intend to watch the whole thing, but I'm treating it like a new show with familiar cameos at this point. Thats like baby entry level abstract. This is just the purest form of David Lynch on the screen. Honestly I wasn't expecting it with Mark Frost on board, but I had heard that he was much more hands off during the actual filming and production of the show. I can definitely see this becoming Lynch's final tv show/film. 14 more hours to go goddamn.
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May 22, 2017 14:14
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May 22, 2017 14:33
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Koirhor posted:That first 10 mins to episode 3 was just horrifying and amazing By the way, the first episode's NYC glass box climax was one of the scariest things I've seen in a long time.
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The Unlife Aquatic posted:I love how every episode feels like the shard of a different TV show, and yet somehow an integral part of the whole Twin Peaks experience. Quoting you from a while back but this was my biggest take away from the first two episodes and I loved it. If the 90s Twin Peaks was a story viewed through the lense of drama up to that point, this feels the same for drama in the time since. The guy watching the box feels like it has some of Lost in it. Evil Cooper feels like soemthing out of a Fargo season. The Chromatics at the end felt like something out of a Refyn film.
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Koirhor posted:That first 10 mins to episode 3 was just horrifying and amazing Also I didn't like the Michael Cera scene nearly as much as everyone else, but that's about the only thing I didn't care for. For as wild as this has been so far, there's more of a narrative than I was expecting. It's more clear than FWWM at least.
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May 22, 2017 14:53
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May 22, 2017 16:04
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I'm so glad this show isn't full of "lol coffee" references and other poo poo like that
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May 22, 2017 16:05
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It does feel a bit weird how slow everyone in the real world seems to be. The mix of concrete and abstract was something that I thought really helped the original seasons anchor themselves.
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Yeah, think I might be done after 2 and a bit episodes. It's nigh on unwatchable. It feels like Lynch managed to scam a bunch of money off of execs, high on nostalgia, to produce the show and spent it all on coke and hookers and then got a bunch of second year film students that are really into his style to produce a show as cheaply as humanly possible.
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May 22, 2017 16:14
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spudsbuckley posted:Yeah, think I might be done after 2 and a bit episodes. It's nigh on unwatchable. You're missing out on Wally Brando! ZeeBoi posted:I'm so glad this show isn't full of "lol coffee" references and other poo poo like that I was waiting for at least some type of reference to that in Episode 1 and so happy we didn't get it.
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May 22, 2017 16:21
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TVIV > Twin Peaks 2017: When you get there, you'll already be there
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spudsbuckley posted:Yeah, think I might be done after 2 and a bit episodes. It's nigh on unwatchable. Lol
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May 22, 2017 16:29
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spudsbuckley posted:Yeah, think I might be done after 2 and a bit episodes. It's nigh on unwatchable. I love that this season is already separating the men from the boys. This one is for all of us who spent the past 20 years making "Inland Empire" yarn walls. There's plenty of other awesome, accessible Prestige TV in this New Golden Age for you guys to watch. This one's for us Lynch autists.
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I loved 1 & 2, saw it at my local theater. My only question: who's the guy with James at the bar, the one who does finger guns at the girls?
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May 22, 2017 16:31
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so glad that Lynch managed to find the best possible replacement for Michael J Anderson
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Transistor Rhythm posted:I love that this season is already separating the men from the boys. This one is for all of us who spent the past 20 years making "Inland Empire" yarn walls. There's plenty of other awesome, accessible Prestige TV in this New Golden Age for you guys to watch. This one's for us Lynch autists. Hey, I'm with you on that. I enjoyed the other two seasons but this is in the FWWM vein of film school wankery. I'm glad y'all are enjoying it because this type of thing doesn't come around very often but I'm finding it utterly loving terrible.
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spudsbuckley posted:Hey, I'm with you on that. Cool. But not James cool.
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So is it made more explicit in episode 4 that Dougie was BOB and friends' creation? I'd assumed it was something Mike had made as a failsafe, since Dougie was unable to move his arm right before he got zapped to the lodge.
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i just finished FWWMMP in prep for the third season and i cant remember , was the ring and garambozia stuff was in the original 2 seasons? also who is this character laura talks to about her journal with in the first third of the movie
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Transistor Rhythm posted:I love that this season is already separating the men from the boys. This one is for all of us who spent the past 20 years making "Inland Empire" yarn walls. There's plenty of other awesome, accessible Prestige TV in this New Golden Age for you guys to watch. This one's for us Lynch autists. As someone who really likes the new season, this is a lovely way to approach any sort of art, and you suck for thinking it. There's really not a better encapsulation of this awful loving forum than this post. gently caress you.
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I wouldn't say I loved it but I didn't hate it either. It's so much more like FWWM than the show, so if you came expecting more Twin Peaks you're probably gonna be largely disappointed. Lynch wasn't joking when he said the movie would be important. What he meant by that was the show would be a lot more like the movie than the old show. My main critique with the first two episodes is there was way too much crazy poo poo. The lodge stuff kinda bores me when they spend too long on it. The original Twin Peaks worked well because they had crazy poo poo happening a lot but they also sandwiched that between some level of groundedness and normality. These first two episodes were just a crazy train ride 24/7 more in the vein of Mulholland Drive or Lost Highway. I feel like Lynch's crazy/surreal stuff works more when he reigns it in a bit and doesn't constantly bombard you with it. But there's 18 hours of this so we'll see how long he stays in crazy town or if he brings it in a bit ever.
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sector_corrector posted:As someone who really likes the new season, this is a lovely way to approach any sort of art, and you suck for thinking it. There's really not a better encapsulation of this awful loving forum than this post. gently caress you. Nah, he's right. You'd have to be a huge fan of Lynch to put up with this show.
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