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Lemon-Lime posted:Fairy tether fills the bar, but I don't think they said what you spend the bar on. I just went back to the video and the tether seems to be draining while tethered, and goes up when he dpses. She also translates something about "don't let it run out".
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Probably fairy suicides if it runs out.Closed-Down Pizza Parlor posted:Consolidating combos in PVE would make it simpler, not easier, but simpler is not always better Annoying complexity is never better though.
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May 22, 2017 20:14
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I can think of times where I'd rather use Demolish on a new monster instead of snap punch on one that's going to be dead within seconds. It might not be 100% best practice but it gets it ticking down. If my button is showing me Snap Punch instead of Demolish because it's thinking it's the optimum solution, it's a pain in the arse to use Demolish. I'd rather do it all myself.
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May 22, 2017 20:14
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For some reason everyone is excited about hitting Fell Cleave more often in a row, but no one mentioned the rad punch move? Screw up priorities.
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May 22, 2017 20:15
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Truga posted:Probably fairy suicides if it runs out. Monk has six buttons in its core rotation; cutting that down to, say, two (for back and side rotations) would make it much more difficult to weave the combos together as is often necessary for proper monk play.
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May 22, 2017 20:16
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Where'll the full stream of the letter end up living once it's done? I'd like to check it out after work tonight.
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May 22, 2017 20:16
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Truga posted:Annoying complexity is never better though. a lot of the engagement in the game comes from the rotational complexity. if i had to fight a mob by pressing '1' every 2 seconds, guess what that would be? really loving boring. rotational complexity is bad in pvp because it is difficult to actively track moving targets who are doing their best to behave unpredictably while also inputting your combos.
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May 22, 2017 20:17
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Memnaelar posted:Where'll the full stream of the letter end up living once it's done? I'd like to check it out after work tonight. The youtube stream will likely switch to a pre-recorded video once finished. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ka3PwPa1JI
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May 22, 2017 20:18
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Closed-Down Pizza Parlor posted:Monk has six buttons in its core rotation; cutting that down to, say, two (for back and side rotations) would make it much more difficult to weave the combos together as is often necessary for proper monk play. I don't see how this is the case at all. One button shows rear attacks, one shows sides, they both change based on what form you're in.
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May 22, 2017 20:18
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Josuke Higashikata posted:If my button is showing me Snap Punch instead of Demolish because it's thinking it's the optimum solution, it's a pain in the arse to use Demolish. I'd rather do it all myself. They can leave all the buttons like they are, they should totally add combo options for people who want to have less poo poo on hotbars though. Closed-Down Pizza Parlor posted:Monk has six buttons in its core rotation; cutting that down to, say, two (for back and side rotations) would make it much more difficult to weave the combos together as is often necessary for proper monk play. Monk has 6 buttons in its core rotation, but it has like 30 total abilities at level 60, and it doesn't seem like it went down by much in 4.0. 6 Less buttons (flank, back, aoe) is super super good in this game.
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Josuke Higashikata posted:I can think of times where I'd rather use Demolish on a new monster instead of snap punch on one that's going to be dead within seconds. It might not be 100% best practice but it gets it ticking down. The monk "consolidated combo" would basically just be turning 9 buttons into 6, I think. It'd be like: [Bootshine][Arm of the Destroyer][Dragon Kick] [ X ][ Y ][ Z ] Where X, Y, and Z switch between being greyed-out/blank, your Form II skills, and your Form III skills depending on your current form. Here's something else I really want: bootshine, arm, and dragon kick should get the "available proc!" yellow highlight whenever you're in Form I.
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A 50S RAYGUN posted:a lot of the engagement in the game comes from the rotational complexity. if i had to fight a mob by pressing '1' every 2 seconds, guess what that would be? really loving boring. rotational complexity is bad in pvp because it is difficult to actively track moving targets who are doing their best to behave unpredictably while also inputting your combos. agreed.
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Klades posted:I don't see how this is the case at all. One button shows rear attacks, one shows sides, they both change based on what form you're in. you're right, I didn't think that example through
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This expansion is everything I've ever wanted. I'm happy. I'm so goddamn happy and hype. gently caress OFF OLD CLERIC STANCE. Fister Roboto posted:Here's what I'm expecting: Seems like we got a little more than a couple animations. 
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May 22, 2017 20:20
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May 22, 2017 20:21
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Awesome! Jump potions! I have new friends who are hype for playing but don't want to deal with grinding so this is nice.
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May 22, 2017 20:22
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This is excellent regardless of how much it does, unless they're expensive or not included with SB as a bonus.
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May 22, 2017 20:22
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ImpAtom posted:Awesome! Jump potions! here comes a stream of meatheads arguing that this will result in lovely players, forgetting about potd existing
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So I got in super late and haven't seen any discussion of this, but have they announced anything about basically overhauling TP and how it's used? I ask because during the PVP demonstration playing a Dragoon they show that Jump now costs 400 TP and Piercing Talon 200 TP while the basic combos appeared to be free. I could honestly get behind them making TP only for "special" attacks, related to making Sprint free. Consider how many classes are using alternate resources I could totally see them going "Okay, regular rotations are free but you'll spend more TP on special stuff".
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Omnicrom posted:So I got in super late and haven't seen any discussion of this, but have they announced anything about basically overhauling TP and how it's used? that's pvp only. it's like you're used to in pve pvp is Entirely It's Own Thing now and uses a completely different action set than pve
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Office Surprise Store posted:here comes a stream of meatheads arguing that this will result in lovely players, forgetting about potd existing And it's not like there's a shortage of lovely players even now under the current regime. Office Surprise Store posted:that's pvp only. it's like you're used to in pve Okey-doke. I could see it going either way honestly, so that's why I was curious.
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Omnicrom posted:So I got in super late and haven't seen any discussion of this, but have they announced anything about basically overhauling TP and how it's used? Not mentioned specifically but it was probably considered in the entire rebalancing
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May 22, 2017 20:24
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Haha, so you're basically buying a book of quest spoilers for your character!
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May 22, 2017 20:25
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25.00 dollars? jesus thats a steal.
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May 22, 2017 20:26
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$25 to catch all the way up, oof
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May 22, 2017 20:26
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Pretend you're a new scion who needs to get up to speed on what happened, and the book itself is a recruitment scam.
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May 22, 2017 20:26
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May 22, 2017 20:26
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Nasty price but a price gouge is to be expected considering their desirability.
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Note Block posted:drat, that is cheap as gently caress Josuke Higashikata posted:Nasty price but a price gouge is to be expected considering their desirability. 
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Nasty price but a price gouge is to be expected considering their desirability. lmao what? you're pretty much saving money if you're considering the amount of time you'd have to actually spend running that content.
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A 50S RAYGUN posted:25.00 dollars? jesus thats a steal. Closed-Down Pizza Parlor posted:$25 to catch all the way up, oof Well that didn't take long! I won't need to get either of these, I last played during 3.2 so I'm about halfway through the Heavensward quests and I like watching the cutscenes.
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Doesn't a Fantasia + name change cost $20 anyway? Seems like it's about fine if you just want to make a second character.
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Just generally: If in doubt, don't side with me.
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If its like the korean jump potions, that's just MSQ flagging and its another $25 for the level 60 skip potion, fwiw
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homeless snail posted:If its like the korean jump potions, that's just MSQ flagging and its another $25 for the level 60 skip potion, fwiw Probably, they've not swapped to the next slide yet
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homeless snail posted:If its like the korean jump potions, that's just MSQ flagging and its another $25 for the level 60 skip potion, fwiw Still making it cheaper than WoW, and it's the better game so heyo!
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Paying for less content is like negative DLC. I totally get why it's there, it makes complete sense, but it's still weird.
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It doesn't raise your job levels, apparently. Sounds like a lot of PotD to get up to the SB content.
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what does a combo pack of hw + arr cost? that + 25 bucks + stormblood (35 for base edition?) is a little rough but yeah you're skipping a ton of content so seems fair
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