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Zyklon B Zombie posted:I'm saying this as someone who really likes David Lynch and liked the new episodes so far, I was worried that this season would be all Lynch with no one holding him back, because the original series was not that at all. The end product is going to be good because Lynch is talented, but I think it is going to lose a lot of the magic of the first two seasons. I don't think you could recapture it if you tried. Twin Peaks was made at a very specific moment in history. 50s nostalgia was very in, and there was absolutely nothing like prestige TV we have now. If he'd just made Twin Peaks Season 3 with Dale as I don't know...a pharmacist in Twin Peaks? It would just have flopped like a wet fart.
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May 22, 2017 19:58
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I'm probably just a huge Lynch nerd, but I honestly think these four hours of TV might be the best I have ever seen, and already have me rapt, perhaps even moreso than when I was first watching that euro pilot and falling in love.
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I binged all four episodes this morning despite telling myself I would do one a night. Whoops. So, I love it all and I'm really into it but yeah, this does not feel like the TV show at all and I won't be surprised if this is going to be TV fans/non-Lynch fans on one side of a line and FWWM/Lynch fans on the other. But man, I am hooked on the slow burn pace of the mystery of the Lodge/Blue Rose. Gordon Cole is in fine form. And Lucy not understanding cell phones is incredible.
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May 22, 2017 20:03
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Agreed. Lynch uses dream logic so well. So many TV shows have huge sprawling plots with a million threads. Somehow, despite taking place in Twin Peaks, Buckhorn, Las Vegas, and New York City all at the same time Twin Peaks feels like a much leaner creature. It's an experience, not a story. And I love that.
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The Unlife Aquatic posted:I don't think you could recapture it if you tried. Twin Peaks was made at a very specific moment in history. 50s nostalgia was very in, and there was absolutely nothing like prestige TV we have now. If he'd just made Twin Peaks Season 3 with Dale as I don't know...a pharmacist in Twin Peaks? It would just have flopped like a wet fart. Oh yeah, definitely don't think they would be able to catch the zeitgeist of the original run, and this new season definitely seems to be in the vein of all the other super dark and serious tone stories that are in vogue now on premium television shows. I'm just a little disappointed, but I will still enjoy the new season for what it is.
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Zyklon B Zombie posted:Oh yeah, definitely don't think they would be able to catch the zeitgeist of the original run, and this new season definitely seems to be in the vein of all the other super dark and serious tone stories that are in vogue now on premium television shows. I'm just a little disappointed, but I will still enjoy the new season for what it is. Have you watched a David Lynch movie made past 1992?
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May 22, 2017 20:08
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I thoroughly enjoyed the original Twin Peaks but this new season isn't doing it for me. I have a feeling there was no one around that had the balls to tell David Lynch "No".
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May 22, 2017 20:10
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Franchescanado posted:Have you watched a David Lynch movie made past 1992? Yes, and this is the perfect time for a full season David Lynch movie to come out which I'm sure will net this season a lot of good reviews and viewers.
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May 22, 2017 20:12
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fromsinkingsands posted:I thoroughly enjoyed the original Twin Peaks but this new season isn't doing it for me. I have a feeling there was no one around that had the balls to tell David Lynch "No". Thank loving god.
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May 22, 2017 20:14
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Under the vegetable posted:Thank loving god. I know, right? We could totally use two more episodes of Cooper trying to function in society.
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May 22, 2017 20:15
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fromsinkingsands posted:I thoroughly enjoyed the original Twin Peaks but this new season isn't doing it for me. I have a feeling there was no one around that had the balls to tell David Lynch "No". Well there was and thats probably when Lynch left the revival effort a few months in lol, and thats when the bosses at showtime probably realized that no one would want a Lynch-less twin peaks, so they gave him free reign.
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May 22, 2017 20:16
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fromsinkingsands posted:I know, right? We could totally use two more episodes of Cooper trying to function in society. I certainly could. Whatever the show does, I'm on board.
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May 22, 2017 20:17
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The first season of Twin Peaks was very much where David Lynch was at in terms of his film making in the 90s and this season is very much his style in the 00s. I would have been pretty surprised if he went back to working the way he did in the 90s.
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May 22, 2017 20:18
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fromsinkingsands posted:I know, right? We could totally use two more episodes of Cooper trying to function in society. This, but unironically. Give me at least five.
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May 22, 2017 20:18
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I mean, even if it's not entirely what I want or like, it's incredibly fresh and feels very new and different. I'm compelled to watch all of it with interest because it's an actual person's ideas and not a focus group tested mess of fine tuned schlock. For people who don't like this, check out that show Beyond. It's cheesy fun with a weird religious angle to the superheroics, and you'll see nothing really unconventional.
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Zyklon B Zombie posted:Yes, and this is the perfect time for a full season David Lynch movie to come out which I'm sure will net this season a lot of good reviews and viewers. Under the vegetable posted:Thank loving god. Under the vegetable posted:Whatever the show does, I'm on board. Pretty much how I feel. It's almost definitely the last thing Lynch is directing or working on for film/television. He's got a 2 year old daughter (again) and just wants to sit at home chain smoking cigarettes and painting. In David Lynch: The Art Life, he even talks about hating/being afraid of driving now.
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May 22, 2017 20:20
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I think I found the inspiration for that thing in the box: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdQiSGb4Luw
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Man-In-Madden posted:Episodes 3 and 4 stuff: I noticed that the city lights from the window in the back of the box were still reflected by the camera lens after the inside of the box darkened.
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May 22, 2017 20:26
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Some David Lynch fans seem to have this weird obsession with eating each other alive over which of his projects are "good" and which are "bad", and even project that onto others by implying that most fans of Lynch are fans of everything he's done, to some degree or other. Like, it's possible to be down with both The Straight Story and Inland Empire, it really is. That said my favorite thing of his, ever, are the LA weather updates he posted every day on YouTube for like 2 years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDAhO4RE_A4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9EmiQc6Fr0
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fromsinkingsands posted:I thoroughly enjoyed the original Twin Peaks but this new season isn't doing it for me. I have a feeling there was no one around that had the balls to tell David Lynch "No". Under the vegetable posted:Thank loving god. I take so much comfort in the fact that it's getting the exact same split down the middle polarized reaction that every single David Lynch project that wasn't The Straight Story gets. David Lynch is back for real.
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Under the vegetable posted:I mean, even if it's not entirely what I want or like, it's incredibly fresh and feels very new and different. I'm compelled to watch all of it with interest because it's an actual person's ideas and not a focus group tested mess of fine tuned schlock. A million times this. I think ep 4 hit a lot of the original Twin Peaks vibes, but goddamn did I love that entire 4 hours. There's just so many plates spinning right and I'm really interested in the South Dakota murder mystery, and the NY room with the Aphex Twin ghost, and the Horn brother's new hijinks, and what the hell the Doc is doing with golden shovels, and even a little curious as to what James with a head full of pudding is going to be about. This show is filling a Lynch sized whole in my life that I didn't know I even had. The Cooper stuff is actually the least interesting parts to me so far. Can't remember what episode this is in so just ignore it if you haven't seen 3&4: can't wait for Coolper to get shot escaping prison or something and Dale to make his way back into the show proper.
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May 22, 2017 20:32
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I guess I'm not surprised that Matthew Lillard can act because he was great last year in Halt and Catch Fire
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precision posted:I guess I'm not surprised that Matthew Lillard can act because he was great last year in Halt and Catch Fire First of all lets never forget he was in the greatest movie of all time. I'm talking of course about Hackers
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precision posted:Some David Lynch fans seem to have this weird obsession with eating each other alive over which of his projects are "good" and which are "bad", and even project that onto others by implying that most fans of Lynch are fans of everything he's done, to some degree or other. Like, it's possible to be down with both The Straight Story and Inland Empire, it really is. It really is! This is my main thing about Lynch, he's just really loving good. His "weird" stuff isn't all he's capable of, the guy made one of the greatest biopics of all time, one of the greatest g-rated feel good family pictures of all time, a completely insane sci fi movie thats comparable to zardoz, he's got range. The guy's an American treasure.
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Franchescanado posted:I feel like a lot of people forget that more than half the first season is a meditation on grief, loss, depression, substance abuse, and suffering through unfulfilling relationships. The show seemed lighter because Coop emphasizes the joy you can experience during/in spite of/past the suffering. Very true. A lot of the comfy charm comes from Coop, or the town itself and some of its inhabitants. I'd be happy if the show stays pure Lynch mode, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's just cranked to 11 until Coop gets his body/mind sorted, or until he returns to Twin Peaks, then eases some on the mindfuck unless Bob/the lodges/etc are involved. Cooper's journey should be trippy af. However the show goes, staying crazy or toning down later, the feel of the original seasons wouldn't fly as well in 2017 as they did in the 90s. So much of that show's tone was riffing on the soaps of the time, and poo poo like Dynasty. I think even if Frost/the execs reigned Lynch in more, it still wouldn't ever feel the same, the show would have to evolve some with the times to work imo. Not unlike FWWM evolving to work differently as a movie. You can do much more on TV now than when the show was originally made, network or otherwise. At any rate, I'm madly in love with episodes 1-4 and I'm excited for whichever direction or places the next fourteen hours take us.
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To borrow the evolution metaphor, as 90s twin peaks is to a dwarf in a red suit dancing, the revival is to an electrified tree making flesh smacking noises
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The only director I can think of with the absurd range of Lynch is Takeshi Miike, who has likewise done everything from Visitor Q to Crows Zero to Thirteen Assassins to, most recently, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure. Though Miike has directed an average of like 5 films a year for 15 years now so in:re volume of output he's the opposite of Lynch.
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 Hey what's this on Coop's head? Episode 2, so I'm leaving it unspoilered.
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precision posted:The only director I can think of with the absurd range of Lynch is Takeshi Miike, who has likewise done everything from Visitor Q to Crows Zero to Thirteen Assassins to, most recently, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure. Though Miike has directed an average of like 5 films a year for 15 years now so in:re volume of output he's the opposite of Lynch. PT Anderson's done an two decade semi-factual industry epic, a neo-noir thriller, a Po-Mo family drama, a Scorsese-esque Rise/Fall Historical Semi-Western Drama , a period piece detective mystery, a semi-biographical religious picture and Adam Sandler rom-com, and now a movie about fashion.  edit: and the Coen bros. But yeah, Lynch is my favorite director by far.
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Episode 3/4 i'm probably grasping at straws here but the sex worker who Dougie is with is named Jade and the ring is a jade ring. One apparently stops you from being possessed and the other stops your head from being blown off. Probably just a coincidence Totally in so far. I'm so glad we get eighteen episodes of this.
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precision posted:The only director I can think of with the absurd range of Lynch is Takeshi Miike, who has likewise done everything from Visitor Q to Crows Zero to Thirteen Assassins to, most recently, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure. Though Miike has directed an average of like 5 films a year for 15 years now so in:re volume of output he's the opposite of Lynch. Didn't Miike make a live action Phoenix Wright?
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Thom and the Heads posted:Episode 3/4
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Shoehead posted:Didn't Miike make a live action Phoenix Wright? Yep. He's brilliantly talented and will make, apparently, any movie that anyone tells him to make at any time, as long as he's paid.
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