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Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this
I really like how Cooper is essentially being escorted by guardian angels.

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Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe

i thought that was so silly at first but now i see he's actually knocking the guy out by levering the shotgun into his head and i suddenly think its genius action choreography lol

vivisectvnv
Aug 5, 2003

Under the vegetable posted:



Hey what's this on Coop's head? Episode 2, so I'm leaving it unspoilered.

i was wondering about that as well, but there is another clearer shot later in the episode, and it's like a little tieback hair pin thingy

DrVenkman
Dec 28, 2005

I think he can hear you, Ray.

Under the vegetable posted:

I like her, but I like movie Donna more. I don't know if it's ever actually been confirmed why she left, I think it's just a lot of rumors.

There's a few reasons. One is scheduling (Same reason that Sherilyn Fenn couldn't do it), one is that a lot of the cast weren't happy to appear in Lynch's movie after he let the show creatively dwindle (This is why you don't get Cooper investigating the Theresa Banks mystery even though he should've been) and Boyle was difficult to work with. Fenn has never minced words when it comes to Boyle. For that matter a few members of the cast have stated that Boyle became tough to work with throughout the show.

For what it's worth, after rewatching it I think that Boyle is great in the show. She provides some of the more resonant emotional moments for me, and she does a great job of a good girl pretending to be something she's not.

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe

vivisectvnv posted:

i was wondering about that as well, but there is another clearer shot later in the episode, and it's like a little tieback hair pin thingy

Oh, nice. I didn't immediately assume hair thing, because his hair's a mess anyway.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

canepazzo posted:

Seriously tho, loved the first two episodes (having understood probably around 20% so far at best); I kinda disagree that this is more FWWM than the original series, I did get the same vibes as from the series (I didn't like FWWM either).
How do you figure? I just rewatched the entire series and FWWM week before last and the first 4 episodes felt way closer in tone to FWWM to me (no constant music, way more surreal horror stuff, fewer goofy subplots, etc.)

The original series and FWWM are pretty different tonally and this felt way more like the latter.

hanales
Nov 3, 2013
I'm really loving it.

I can also see why some people would be disappointed.

Fightmeirl

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




For all the poo poo Boyle gets (some of it deserved) I do agree her portrayal of Donna was great, especially in that first season. Her reaction as she comes to the realization something has happened to Laura in the pilot, in the classroom, is amazing. Or whenever she went 'bad' wearing Laura's sunglasses. She had some good poo poo to work with on the show and delivered. Shame about her off screen antics.

I do really love Moira Kelly's Donna as well, fwiw. I'd have been happy with her returning instead, but I think taking Donna out of the show was a good decision.

canepazzo
May 29, 2006



Rageaholic Monkey posted:

How do you figure? I just rewatched the entire series and FWWM week before last and the first 4 episodes felt way closer in tone to FWWM to me (no constant music, way more surreal horror stuff, fewer goofy subplots, etc.)

The original series and FWWM are pretty different tonally and this felt way more like the latter.

For example the lady with the dog in episode 1, and the interaction between Lucy and the insurance salesman was straight outta the series, I find. I don't disagree that it's darker and more serious than the originals, but from how people were describing it sounded more like "This is FWWM 2: electric bogaloo, has nothing to do with the series".

Legin Noslen
Sep 9, 2004
Fortified with Rhiboflavin

Le Saboteur posted:

Was Beulah in part 1 David Duchovny playing another character in drag?

Fix your heart or die.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Can we take a moment to appreciate Kimmy Robertson fully cracking during the chocolate bunny scene? She was holding back her laughter so hard, and it was everything.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

canepazzo posted:

For example the lady with the dog in episode 1, and the interaction between Lucy and the insurance salesman was straight outta the series, I find. I don't disagree that it's darker and more serious than the originals, but from how people were describing it sounded more like "This is FWWM 2: electric bogaloo, has nothing to do with the series".
Well I don't think anyone's saying it has nothing to do with the original series because it obviously still has a lot of its same characters/mythology, just that the original series had way more Frost influence and network interference that stopped it from being entirely from Lynch's twisted mind and this has way less of that and feels like Lynch was given free rein to do whatever the hell he wants and it's glorious (if you're into that sort of thing).

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this
The lady with the dog reminded me of the woman who gets shot through the wall in Mulholland Drive.

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

fromsinkingsands posted:

I know, right? We could totally use two more episodes of Cooper trying to function in society.
You're right, I'd much rather have another two seasons of dumb boring high school drama bullshit shoehorned in to satisfy network TV audiences.

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008

Magic Hate Ball posted:

The lady with the dog reminded me of the woman who gets shot through the wall in Mulholland Drive.

I was thinking the exact same thing.

spudsbuckley
Aug 29, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

(and can't post for 5 years!)

Rageaholic Monkey posted:

How do you figure? I just rewatched the entire series and FWWM week before last and the first 4 episodes felt way closer in tone to FWWM to me (no constant music, way more surreal horror stuff, fewer goofy subplots, etc.)

The original series and FWWM are pretty different tonally and this felt way more like the latter.

The new 4 episodes are completely in the tone of FWWM insofar as that they are arthouse dogshit for pretentious assholes to wank themselves senseless over whilst Lynch laughs himself to the bank over being able to sell a bunch of nostalgic garbage to morons solely by attaching his name to it.

This man is one of the greatest carnies of all time and everyone unironically enjoying this complete shite is an utter loving rube.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
Am I still a rube if I just enjoy weird poo poo for the hell of it? Lynch is making his own adaptation of Fateful Findings and I can't get enough.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

spudsbuckley posted:

The new 4 episodes are completely in the tone of FWWM insofar as that they are arthouse dogshit for pretentious assholes to wank themselves senseless over whilst Lynch laughs himself to the bank over being able to sell a bunch of nostalgic garbage to morons solely by attaching his name to it.

This man is one of the greatest carnies of all time and everyone unironically enjoying this complete shite is an utter loving rube.

All of that sounds pretty good to me, actually.

Legin Noslen
Sep 9, 2004
Fortified with Rhiboflavin

sector_corrector posted:

As someone who really likes the new season, this is a lovely way to approach any sort of art, and you suck for thinking it. There's really not a better encapsulation of this awful loving forum than this post. gently caress you.

Awww poor baby.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

spudsbuckley posted:

The new 4 episodes are completely in the tone of FWWM insofar as that they are arthouse dogshit for pretentious assholes to wank themselves senseless over whilst Lynch laughs himself to the bank over being able to sell a bunch of nostalgic garbage to morons solely by attaching his name to it.

This man is one of the greatest carnies of all time and everyone unironically enjoying this complete shite is an utter loving rube.
Why are you posting in this thread if you aren't into that?

DrVenkman
Dec 28, 2005

I think he can hear you, Ray.

spudsbuckley posted:

The new 4 episodes are completely in the tone of FWWM insofar as that they are arthouse dogshit for pretentious assholes to wank themselves senseless over whilst Lynch laughs himself to the bank over being able to sell a bunch of nostalgic garbage to morons solely by attaching his name to it.

This man is one of the greatest carnies of all time and everyone unironically enjoying this complete shite is an utter loving rube.

Oh you just keep going and it's delightful.

esperterra posted:

For all the poo poo Boyle gets (some of it deserved) I do agree her portrayal of Donna was great, especially in that first season. Her reaction as she comes to the realization something has happened to Laura in the pilot, in the classroom, is amazing. Or whenever she went 'bad' wearing Laura's sunglasses. She had some good poo poo to work with on the show and delivered. Shame about her off screen antics.

I do really love Moira Kelly's Donna as well, fwiw. I'd have been happy with her returning instead, but I think taking Donna out of the show was a good decision.


She has a couple of my favourite S2 moments. The first is when she's telling a story to Harold Smith (Jeez, remember that nonsense) about how her and Laura went out and met these older boys and how she was trying to keep up with Laura. The other is in the club when Maddie is murdered. She's talking with James and they silently realise that things are never going to work out between them and she just breaks down. It's a great performance.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer
Why aren't we asking the hard-hitting questions?






Does Andy have a pillow under his uniform?

And More
Jun 19, 2013

How far, Doctor?
How long have you lived?

spudsbuckley posted:

The new 4 episodes are completely in the tone of FWWM insofar as that they are arthouse dogshit for pretentious assholes to wank themselves senseless over whilst Lynch laughs himself to the bank over being able to sell a bunch of nostalgic garbage to morons solely by attaching his name to it.

This man is one of the greatest carnies of all time and everyone unironically enjoying this complete shite is an utter loving rube.

I love how you went from

spudsbuckley posted:

I'm glad y'all are enjoying it

to "you're all morons and Lynch is a con man" over the span of three pages.

And More fucked around with this message at 23:39 on May 22, 2017

vivisectvnv
Aug 5, 2003

spudsbuckley posted:

The new 4 episodes are completely in the tone of FWWM insofar as that they are arthouse dogshit for pretentious assholes to wank themselves senseless over whilst Lynch laughs himself to the bank over being able to sell a bunch of nostalgic garbage to morons solely by attaching his name to it.

This man is one of the greatest carnies of all time and everyone unironically enjoying this complete shite is an utter loving rube.

you will in fact find, you have been the rube all along

when you find yourself throwing around loaded phrases like "pretentious assholes" you have already lost the plot sir

Cromulent
Dec 22, 2002

People are under a lot of stress, Bradley.

spudsbuckley posted:

The new 4 episodes are completely in the tone of FWWM insofar as that they are arthouse dogshit for pretentious assholes to wank themselves senseless over whilst Lynch laughs himself to the bank over being able to sell a bunch of nostalgic garbage to morons solely by attaching his name to it.

This man is one of the greatest carnies of all time and everyone unironically enjoying this complete shite is an utter loving rube.
I mean, I know it doesn't have the classic storytelling of WWE or the charm of O&A...

Shoehead
Sep 28, 2005

Wassup, Choom?
Ya need sumthin'?
Hi
James was never cool

I just needed to say that

psychoJ
Feb 24, 2011

Smart and cool, handsome, wealthy and so sexy

spudsbuckley posted:

The new 4 episodes are completely in the tone of FWWM insofar as that they are arthouse dogshit for pretentious assholes to wank themselves senseless over whilst Lynch laughs himself to the bank over being able to sell a bunch of nostalgic garbage to morons solely by attaching his name to it.

This man is one of the greatest carnies of all time and everyone unironically enjoying this complete shite is an utter loving rube.

im so sorry you hate good things

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe
Calling James cool was another great troll in a long line of them by David Lynch

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
I don't know which tickles me more - replacing Michael J. Anderson with a tree, or actually making James mentally disabled.

GeekyManatee
Jul 12, 2011


spudsbuckley posted:

The new 4 episodes are completely in the tone of FWWM insofar as that they are arthouse dogshit for pretentious assholes to wank themselves senseless over whilst Lynch laughs himself to the bank over being able to sell a bunch of nostalgic garbage to morons solely by attaching his name to it.

This man is one of the greatest carnies of all time and everyone unironically enjoying this complete shite is an utter loving rube.

Recently I rewatched the series for a third time. This go-around being with my younger brother, who'd never seen any of it and wanted to give it a chance in preparation for the new season. He's not a fan of David Lynch and it surprised even himself how much he enjoyed the show. I decided to, cautiously and out of obligation to the story as a whole, show him Fire Walk With Me. Personally, I love the movie and am a huge Lynch fan but I was concerned that despite it being a Twin Peaks add on, he'd hate hit because it's *so Lynch*. He loved the movie. Told me: "Out of all the Lynch stuff I've seen, this was actually good." and he's currently loving the new season. This general sentiment is something I've been hearing a lot of from people in the Twin Peaks circle who are new to the show but have never found themselves to be a fan of Lynch.

So I think the problem is your outlook, boy-o.

spudsbuckley
Aug 29, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

(and can't post for 5 years!)

Cromulent posted:

I mean, I know it doesn't have the classic storytelling of WWE or the charm of O&A...

Are you seriously that butthurt over this that you went post history researching?

This season is just loving awful TV so far, just utter twaddle. I don't give a poo poo about Lynch one way or the other but the reaction of this thread is bewildering. Are you all that blinded by "having" to like him that you can't see how utterly loving shite this all is?

ElectricWizard
Oct 21, 2008
I blew through the four episodes, and they somehow exceeded my high expectations. I'm a little confused by Jaques Renault manning the bar though. I think the credits even confirmed that it was him.

GeekyManatee
Jul 12, 2011


Escobarbarian posted:

I don't know which tickles me more - replacing Michael J. Anderson with a tree, or actually making James mentally disabled.

Bobby becoming a deputy after years of cocaine deals, working for Ben, and murdering a dude in the woods tickled me pretty hard as well.

vivisectvnv
Aug 5, 2003

spudsbuckley posted:

Are you seriously that butthurt over this that you went post history researching?

This season is just loving awful TV so far, just utter twaddle. I don't give a poo poo about Lynch one way or the other but the reaction of this thread is bewildering. Are you all that blinded by "having" to like him that you can't see how utterly loving shite this all is?

culture is a subjective experience, who would of thunk it

Grizzled Patriarch
Mar 27, 2014

These dentures won't stop me from tearing out jugulars in Thunderdome.



Franchescanado posted:

I loved 1 & 2, saw it at my local theater.

My only question: who's the guy with James at the bar, the one who does finger guns at the girls?

From a few pages back, but he hasn't shown up again yet afaik. If he looked a bit familiar, it's because he's played by Balthazar Getty, the kid from Lost Highway.

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008

spudsbuckley posted:

The new 4 episodes are completely in the tone of FWWM insofar as that they are arthouse dogshit for pretentious assholes to wank themselves senseless over whilst Lynch laughs himself to the bank over being able to sell a bunch of nostalgic garbage to morons solely by attaching his name to it.

This man is one of the greatest carnies of all time and everyone unironically enjoying this complete shite is an utter loving rube.

This post rules

psychoJ
Feb 24, 2011

Smart and cool, handsome, wealthy and so sexy

spudsbuckley posted:

Are you seriously that butthurt over this that you went post history researching?

This season is just loving awful TV so far, just utter twaddle. I don't give a poo poo about Lynch one way or the other but the reaction of this thread is bewildering. Are you all that blinded by "having" to like him that you can't see how utterly loving shite this all is?

no. lynch owns and still owns as evidenced by this new season. im sorry that you have to reconcile your negative feelings by calling everyone who does like it an "utter loving rube" instead of being an adult and moving on

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Different people like different things. News at 11!

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Don't feed the troll, kids.

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spudsbuckley
Aug 29, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

(and can't post for 5 years!)


I think Lynch himself would love this take on his "art" because you wouldn't know whether he actually agrees with it or not but you'd sure as gently caress argue about it ad nauseum further adding to the mystique of a man who produces completely amateurish dogshit and markets it as nuanced genius.

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