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marshmallow creep posted:Celica gets the Rion and Fugue shields, and can give the Fugue shield to the correct guy, but the Rion guy was in Zofia castle. Do I have to know in advance this happens so I can send the Rion to Alm through the Peddler or is there another way to get the Rion shield to its guy? That husband quest isn't done yet. You have to go to a dungeon later on. You get like 4 peddlers per character, don't worry about that shield quest.
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marshmallow creep posted:Celica gets the Rion and Fugue shields, and can give the Fugue shield to the correct guy, but the Rion guy was in Zofia castle. Do I have to know in advance this happens so I can send the Rion to Alm through the Peddler or is there another way to get the Rion shield to its guy? Worst case scenario, the two parties merge in the postgame
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cheetah7071 posted:The only time in the game that backtracking is cut off is that Celica can't explore the act 1 areas after you finish act 2. Just keep playing and come back to the guy when you get your third. Thanks. That initial cutoff, plus going back to towns at the start chapter four and finding them empty except for quests I hadn't finished yet, had me on edge.
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May 22, 2017 21:01
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Oh Alm your ragtag army is so much shittier than Celica's spellcaster/Pegasus knight/myrmidon murder squad.
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marshmallow creep posted:Celica gets the Rion and Fugue shields, and can give the Fugue shield to the correct guy, but the Rion guy was in Zofia castle. Do I have to know in advance this happens so I can send the Rion to Alm through the Peddler or is there another way to get the Rion shield to its guy? I don't know about in advance, but yeah the peddler is the only way before endgame. You get more uses in a bit if you used the chapter 3 one on Celica's side, though.
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I thought I had a good Clair, then the Whitewings joined Celica gets all the good units
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I just got Mathilda and ouch, Clive, your girlfriend has much better stats than you! Aside from HP and Def, she's either ahead of him or equal. Stand back, buddy, let the lady handle things.
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Silver Falcon posted:I just got Mathilda and ouch, Clive, your girlfriend has much better stats than you! Aside from HP and Def, she's either ahead of him or equal. She also has better growths in everything but HP. By a significant amount across the board. Clive is kinda a chump
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May 22, 2017 23:06
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Who am I supposed to give the ladyblade between both parties. Seems kinda bad in practice since I don't want any of my spellcasters up close.
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May 22, 2017 23:26
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I can't pick up the cat I examined in port, this game is ruined for me
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May 22, 2017 23:26
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I respect Clive.
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May 22, 2017 23:26
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Mae for murderyest waifu.
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The Big Whoop posted:Mae for murderyest waifu. Sonya, Celica and Mathilda give her some competition but goddamn Mae is a murderbot from the word go.
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May 23, 2017 00:25
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Celica has a 44 mt spell
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May 23, 2017 00:29
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Also, having played most of the game, I really dislike the 'everyone deploys' thing because most maps have so few enemies. And it just turns into a congested clusterfuck in the boats, deserts and most of the castle chapters.
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May 23, 2017 00:32
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that isn't really the fault of the everyone deploys thing
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Endorph posted:that isn't really the fault of the everyone deploys thing I mean managing 16 units on small maps with few enemies sucks. And it would be a really easy thing to change design-wise since otherwise you're overhauling almost the entirety of map and encounter design in the game to have larger and more varied maps, fewer but more meaningful random encounters etc.
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i dont think id want them to change it. changing the number of units deployed would just make half the cast worthless and make the entire game feel even emptier.
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I like the everyone deploys thing because it's forcing me to find niches for units who are underperforming or outclassed and it's actually pretty fun.
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All-Deploy is the only reason why I still have Knights, because they're really bad as the game goes on, outside of Forscythe because he has freakishly decent speed.
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May 23, 2017 01:01
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Is the peddler in the same location in all parts? I need a bow sent to one party
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Yeah a lot of these maps are not friends to knights. Why do they insist on not giving them any move? They already have low speed. Let them move up front to do their job! Did Dead Man's Mire for the first time. c Celica's maps really like to pile on the -move tiles.
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The Maps could be the friendliest maps in the world, but so many maps in the 2nd half are just sniping Mire arcanists and witches that Barons just instantly melt except for one that has a hex shield. At that point in the game, Dreadfighters are your "tanks" if you ever bother taking defensive damage that's not your invokes.
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Pastrymancy posted:Is the peddler in the same location in all parts? I need a bow sent to one party You get one use per peddler and the transfer is instantaneous; you don't need to pick it up or anything. Tae posted:The Maps could be the friendliest maps in the world, but so many maps in the 2nd half are just sniping Mire arcanists and witches that Barons just instantly melt except for one that has a hex shield. At that point in the game, Dreadfighters are your "tanks" if you ever bother taking defensive damage that's not your invokes. Yeah I feel like a lot of the back half of the game just ends up turning into elaborate sniping missions, followed by cleanup.
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May 23, 2017 01:11
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Least it works both ways, as my Leon one shot the boss of Celica's third act. Put that in your gargoyle's belly, punk!
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I still find use for Knights in delaying pushes from physical units or summoned terrors so the rest of the army could deal with more important things. They don't deal any damage but they don't take any either so they do a fine job at keeping enemies at bay.
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They also seem weirdly high on the attack priority. I think the ai focuses on stuff it can more reliably hit than what big ticket damage it could do? I have had situations where I was trying to feed a kill to a low def target and the monster went after Valbar or Lukas instead.
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The amount of dick moves in this game is absurd, it makes Conquest Lunatic a breeze in the park. Why are these eyeballs so fast that they literally double everyone, including my fastest dreadfighters? And hit hard? And multiply?
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marshmallow creep posted:I really, really like the job Mae's voice actress is doing. She's got a lot of personality. Well, Mae is the same actress who did Makoto in Persona 5, so big surprise she's super good. Especially now that she has an actual script to work with. Actually there's a number of P5 folks on this. Gray is Ryuji, Celica is Futaba (!), Tobin is Akechi, Genny is Hifumi, Morgana is Tatiana... Anyway I'm going to be That Nerd and ask That Question: so there really is no reason to not wait on promotion at all? You won't get ~extra stats~ for leveling some? I should just blast these here villagers to proper classes now that I've beaten up some dorks in this shrine?
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SpaceDrake posted:Well, Mae is the same actress who did Makoto in Persona 5, so big surprise she's super good. Especially now that she has an actual script to work with. I mean you will get extra stats from levelling probably. But promotion gains are only up to a class base, so villagers with 5 speed or 7 speed promoting to Mercenary always get to 10 speed. And the game isn't near long enough to max people without grinding a fuckton so just promote everyone ASAP.
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SpaceDrake posted:Well, Mae is the same actress who did Makoto in Persona 5, so big surprise she's super good. Especially now that she has an actual script to work with. The cast is closer to Nier, because Alm is 9S and this is an 8-4 joint like Nier. The reasons to wait on promotion is basically if you like grinding and you have some characters that have absurdly high growth that they will out-stat other characters without promoting I.E. Mathilda, Delthea, Sonya, etc.
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Yeah, if your dudes are at the promotion base stats there is no reason to promote them until max level except for exp gains. I've had a few people who have gained literally nothing from promoting so far which, uh, kinda sucks Though at least all tier 3 classes have perks or increased movement. Like Barons take half damage from arrows, dread fighters shrug off mag with +res, Priestesses get sword access and healing, Sages get +10 magic accuracy and healing, cleric evo gets a 5 aoe heal around them every turn, archers get a horse, falcon knights get +10 might vs. Monsters. Uh... what do Gold Knights get? I forgot. Zore fucked around with this message at 02:33 on May 23, 2017 |
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Tae posted:The cast is closer to Nier, because Alm is 9S and this is an 8-4 joint like Nier. And Mae has the same VA as A2, if we're getting specific. Which explains why Mae is so good at killing Alm in heroes
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Having two clerics made my lizard brain somewhat angry but already having that much extra healing is making hard mode more manageable. Doesn't hurt that clerics are able to attack too, even if it's inaccurate.
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Seraphim is one of the most accurate spells in the entire game. And Faye+Silque basically breaks the game for Alm's side.
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Zore posted:Uh... what do Gold Knights get? I forgot. +1 move and uh well Clive gained a bunch of stats but that's cause he kinda isn't any good
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Subvisual Haze posted:Oh Alm your ragtag army is so much shittier than Celica's spellcaster/Pegasus knight/myrmidon murder squad. Seriously. Which one is actually fighting a war? I wonder sometimes.
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So, I just learned that you can fail to get Atlas. He seems to not appear if you do the desert part of chapter 3 before visiting his location in the town. Looks like Celica's army will be one unit short. Oh well, from what I can tell he's not that good anyway compared to the rest of her squad. I learned this the hard way, when I visited the town, but forgot to hit that one location before going to bed, and forgot that I missed a spot when I started again. But not worth restarting the game and redoing all of the game so far over again.
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