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Centzon Totochtin posted:If you merge a +1 unit into a base unit, do you end up with a +1 or +2 unit? +2.
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I've never understood the Hector love - I pick people running him in the arena all the time. YTiki/Xander or really any high def red ruins him (Also buffed gronnblade+ bcamilla); why isn't everyone feeding him for distant counter? Tell me why people love him (I don't have a Hector).
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May 23, 2017 05:07
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^^^^ my +Atk vantage Hector has cleared whole arena teams/maps by himself just letting guys crash into him. He hits hard enough with vantage that he can wipe attacking foes out without them landing a shot on him. His distant counter makes him awesome for dealing with colorless guys too. I run mine with threaten speed and Moonbow along with a speed boost from azura and he's one of the anchors of my team. When I park my linde by him to take care of reds those two are usually all I need to clear a map. I absolutely love him but he is squishy against magic. That's another plus of running a mobile swordlord like Xander or eldigan with him, since they can just run up and smoosh any green or red mages that come snooping around So Xander and bonfire should go together just as well if not better than draconic aura yeah? He's also got Fury so it seems like a good idea to take advantage of his high defense. And jinkies having 3/4ths of the team being able to distant counter really changes the way the game plays, or at least to my play style at least. Being able to let Hector and Xander take all the bow and star shots from colorless guys and typically wipe them out right then and there has made things much easier since it really cuts down on guys I have to nuke with linde then. Thanks thread for turning me on to Xander. I think he's typically going to be my replacement for eldigan unless I need to double your on reds. Pokemaster #421 fucked around with this message at 05:14 on May 23, 2017 |
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May 23, 2017 05:09
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Pokemaster #421 posted:Thanks thread for turning me on to Xander. I think he's typically going to be my replacement for eldigan unless I need to double your on reds. That's what Rein is for. Seriously, running Rein, Xander, Azura, <green of your choice> trivializes the game
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May 23, 2017 05:13
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Never managed to pull him unfortunately but my linde has been absolutely wonderful for wiping out anything red. Once desperation is in effect she's straight beastly and I love her
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May 23, 2017 05:15
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Pokemaster #421 posted:So Xander and bonfire should go together just as well if not better than draconic aura yeah? He's also got Fury so it seems like a good idea to take advantage of his high defense. I think as long as a character's defense is equal to 60% of their attack or more Bonfire is better?
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May 23, 2017 05:16
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I got a 5* Hinoka and forgot to check her IVs because I was excited to use her. I found her hard to use, she didn't kill stuff without lots of babysitting, but eventually I got her to level 30 only to notice she has 23 strength, 21 def, and 22 resistance, which guarantees she has a -atk nature and makes it likely she has +res. Bleh. To the bench with her, I guess?
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May 23, 2017 05:23
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I have some good IVs and some bad IVs. Hopefully someday I'll roll YTiki who doesn't have -spd, or a Camilla who doesn't have +HP. To compensate, however, I have a -Res+Spd Nino and a +Atk Reinhardt.
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May 23, 2017 05:30
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^^^^^ Yeah if I'm not mistaken those are the best character in the game and close to the best character in the game, so it's good compensation! So jealous of all you rein havers, although it's been tempered by acquiring the aforementioned linde. I had absolutely jack for blue offensive units prior to her and I didn't realize what a tremendous improvement having her would bring. It's hard to overstate how useful she's been along with Hector. TheKingofSprings posted:I think as long as a character's defense is equal to 60% of their attack or more Bonfire is better? That makes a lot of sense now that you spelled it out like that, thank you!
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May 23, 2017 05:35
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cheetah7071 posted:Tier lists are even more useless than usual in this game I figured as much for the tier list thing. Just figured it'd be nice to have some reliable database for strategies, at least as a newer player. Like I have no idea what factors you mean for whether or not FCorrin is worth using.
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May 23, 2017 05:38
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big trivia FAIL posted:I've never understood the Hector love - I pick people running him in the arena all the time. YTiki/Xander or really any high def red ruins him (Also buffed gronnblade+ bcamilla); why isn't everyone feeding him for distant counter? Tell me why people love him (I don't have a Hector). As a guy who's drawn 3 hectors, he's one of the the best counter attacking unit in the game and while skill inheritance makes some tanks just as good, he does what he does right out of the box. And that's being able to erase any non-red physical unit in the game, not to mention most of the non-red mages as well, if you get G.tomebreaker on him. I guess the hard part about using hector is having his weakness to reds covered, which I do by running a +atk Abel.
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May 23, 2017 05:47
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Hm. Yeah, I get that it evens out, but it seems like she has enough of a hard time killing things that she might be making my team worse than not using her. I've got a +Spd/-Def 5* Linde and a 5* +Spd/-Def Lyn, as well as a +Def/-Res 5* Lucina, so I've gotten really lucky otherwise. With Hinoka, though, I'm wondering if she's going to be useless or if I can salvage her and make her be a strong slot on my team? Maybe giving her triangle adept and fury 3 or life and death 2 would be helpful. Oh, and I've been using a 3* Olivia. Should I try to summon an Azura or aim for Celica or wait and see what the next banner is? I'm not sure if Lucina is redundant since I already have Lyn who does good damage with her default skills without needing my fury fodder, but either way I feel like melee attackers have a hard time killing enemy greens without getting attacked first, so I'm tempted to aim for Celica and hopefully shoot down all the greens.
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May 23, 2017 05:49
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+Atk Celica has like 49 attack, with LaD and her tome bonus I think she'll bake units crispier than Julia
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May 23, 2017 05:53
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CodfishCartographer posted:I figured as much for the tier list thing. Just figured it'd be nice to have some reliable database for strategies, at least as a newer player. Like I have no idea what factors you mean for whether or not FCorrin is worth using. Well, what do you have, who else you'd like to use, that kind of thing. Most character can be useful, but their niche depends on who they have backing them up and what skills they have.
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CodfishCartographer posted:I figured as much for the tier list thing. Just figured it'd be nice to have some reliable database for strategies, at least as a newer player. Like I have no idea what factors you mean for whether or not FCorrin is worth using. What star rank is she? What 5*s do you have? How do you want to use her--arena defense, arena offense, or just having extra options for grand hero battles? How much effort are you willing to put into skill inheritance to make you work? Do you have access to the skills that would make her worth using? I understand it can be pretty overwhelming, which is why the number one thing I'd recommend is to just use your favorites, at least until you can get a better handle on the game. If you want to use FCorrin, do it! If you need help constructing an arena team around her, the thread would be glad to help. If you want to put effort into skill inheritance with her, we'd also be glad to help with that.
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May 23, 2017 05:55
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oliveoil posted:I got a 5* Hinoka and forgot to check her IVs because I was excited to use her. I found her hard to use, she didn't kill stuff without lots of babysitting, but eventually I got her to level 30 only to notice she has 23 strength, 21 def, and 22 resistance, which guarantees she has a -atk nature and makes it likely she has +res. Bleh. To the bench with her, I guess? I've been running flier emblem with a-ATK Hinoka for s few days now. Honestly, the -ATK isn't that bad in flier emblem. Her main job is a buffbot for gronnblade SCamilla and if you give her swordbreaker she will handle all the red units just fine. Goad fliers (or two) will also help tremendeously. Andrast fucked around with this message at 06:09 on May 23, 2017 |
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May 23, 2017 06:03
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should I make a 4 star +10 fcorrin what skills should she have
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May 23, 2017 06:05
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Elyv posted:should I make a 4 star +10 fcorrin As an owner of +8 4* Cherche, merged 4* units are cool and good. Remember to choose one with a good nature to merge into.
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May 23, 2017 06:07
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Andrast posted:I've been running flier emblem with a-ATK Hinoka for s few days now. Flier emblem sounds like fun but my other fliers are Claire, Beruka, Florina, Shanna, and Cherche. I heard it's only good with spring Camilla. Did I hear wrong?
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May 23, 2017 06:08
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Elyv posted:should I make a 4 star +10 fcorrin Definitely lightning breath (it's practically the reason to run manaketes at all), then maybe triangle adept and uh... what B skill are you even supposed to put on middling speed units
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May 23, 2017 06:10
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cheetah7071 posted:Definitely lightning breath (it's practically the reason to run manaketes at all), then maybe triangle adept and uh... Fcorrin has 34 speed, +SPD has 37 speed. That's a pretty good speed.
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May 23, 2017 06:14
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cheetah7071 posted:What star rank is she? What 5*s do you have? How do you want to use her--arena defense, arena offense, or just having extra options for grand hero battles? How much effort are you willing to put into skill inheritance to make you work? Do you have access to the skills that would make her worth using? Ahh, I guess all that makes sense. I'm pretty used to these types of games where characters tend to be either really good or really worthless. Unfortunately I've only pulled two 5*s, both of which were healers. Right now I'm just running Hana, Olivia, Donnel, and Cecilia, but I don't really have any particular plan more than "kill their dudes, don't let their dudes kill mine" . They're all 4*s, and the FCorrin is a 3*. I've got a 3* ATiki that I kinda have sitting around as backup. Other possibly notable units are a 4* +atk/-hp Cordelia and a 3* +hp/-spd Cherche.
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Yeah it took me ages to hammer out my play style (which is still a huge work in progress and changes depending on who I draw). On offensively geared team that actively hunts units across the board is going to require different units and load outs than a defensively minded team that focuses on drawing the enemy to you. My first step, or one of anyway, was developing a team identity so to speak and when I first started I based it off the strongest units I had. I really didn't pay a ton of attention to IVs and went more off what 5 star guys I drew and tried to make sure I had adequate triangle coverage on top of that. The first strong 5 star guys I drew over the course of a week or two were azura, eldigan, and Minerva so I ended up with a more aggressive playstyle and added bunny Camilla because her mobility as a flier worked well with offense. Once I pulled Hector it completely changed my play style to suit a more defensive strategy since he would never keep up with the rest of my team. I kept my guys close together then and focused a lot on buffs and movement skills like pivot and draw back. Now that I finally landed a good blue mage in linde I also dropped eldigan for the most part in favor of Xander since his distant counter plays to a defensive team better than eldigans swordbreaker. This is all a really long winded way of saying that yeah it takes a fair bit of time to figure out what play style suites you best and will prob change based off the initial 5 star guys you pull and promote, so don't stress too much about IVs and stuff in the beginning. I can't remember how many times I asked this thread about team composition and stuff and I'd be hella lost if everyone here wasn't super awesome about helping people out. So thanks everyone it's deffo appreciated! Well that's my doctoral thesis on fire emblem heroes I hope you enjoyed it
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CodfishCartographer posted:Ahh, I guess all that makes sense. I'm pretty used to these types of games where characters tend to be either really good or really worthless. Unfortunately I've only pulled two 5*s, both of which were healers. Right now I'm just running Hana, Olivia, Donnel, and Cecilia, but I don't really have any particular plan more than "kill their dudes, don't let their dudes kill mine" . They're all 4*s, and the FCorrin is a 3*. I've got a 3* ATiki that I kinda have sitting around as backup. Other possibly notable units are a 4* +atk/-hp Cordelia and a 3* +hp/-spd Cherche. If you're still pretty early on in the game, rerolling for non-healer 5*s wouldn't be the worst idea--assuming you're willing to put in boring work to have a stronger team. If you aren't, or are even hesitant, then don't do it. In the period when you're still ramping up, I would just use what 4 and 5 stars I had and not worry about it. On that note, healers are pretty good in story missions--they're only bad in the arena. If one of them in Genny, she'll even be okay at attacking things because of wrathful staff.
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cheetah7071 posted:If you're still pretty early on in the game, rerolling for non-healer 5*s wouldn't be the worst idea--assuming you're willing to put in boring work to have a stronger team. If you aren't, or are even hesitant, then don't do it. Eh, my main team is about level 35ish? And I've cleared the story mode on normal and most of hard. Still getting a decent influx of orbs so I'll probably keep trucking along and summoning for specific stuff like the OP recommends. If I start topping out and don't have any solid 5*s I'm happy with when orbs inevitably start running dry, maybe I'll reset then, but until then I'm cool with my setup so far.
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May 23, 2017 06:29
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oliveoil posted:Flier emblem sounds like fun but my other fliers are Claire, Beruka, Florina, Shanna, and Cherche. I heard it's only good with spring Camilla. Did I hear wrong? Kidding aside, until fliers get more tome users, someone with Distant/Close Counter or a Distant/Close Counter weapon, an archer (Reina please), or just some more melee units as strong as Minerva, it's going to play second fiddle to Horse Emblem and Eirika + blade tomes. When/if they do though, I'm going to dive straight into it just based on how great Spring Camilla as an individual unit is. God, I hope we get a blue tome Aversa.
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May 23, 2017 07:04
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My flier emblem team with Bunny Camilla, Hinoka, Cherche and Subaki works pretty well. Definitely worse than horse emblem though. Rein alone makes that really loving powerful.
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May 23, 2017 07:11
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Roger Explosion posted:Bunny Camilla is the only good flier, and anyone who disagrees hates spring. Nearly all if not 100% of the dark mages have been red unfortunately. They could do something wacky like Dark Flier Sumia for a blue tome flier but we're more likely to see the various pegasus knights as pegasus knights before we see them as magic users. or flying healers 
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May 23, 2017 07:17
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ungulateman posted:Nearly all if not 100% of the dark mages have been red unfortunately. They could do something wacky like Dark Flier Sumia for a blue tome flier but we're more likely to see the various pegasus knights as pegasus knights before we see them as magic users. dark knight ricken
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May 23, 2017 07:21
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Having no decent red unit also hurts. You could make a Wo Dao+ Palla with a good speed nature work, but it seems like a lot of effort for a unit that will probably get out-classed the moment a red tome flier comes into existence.ungulateman posted:Nearly all if not 100% of the dark mages have been red unfortunately. They could do something wacky like Dark Flier Sumia for a blue tome flier but we're more likely to see the various pegasus knights as pegasus knights before we see them as magic users.
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ungulateman posted:Nearly all if not 100% of the dark mages have been red unfortunately. They could do something wacky like Dark Flier Sumia for a blue tome flier but we're more likely to see the various pegasus knights as pegasus knights before we see them as magic users. Sad little Odin and his wimpy ATK.
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May 23, 2017 07:38
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So, after finally grinding enough SP to give my 5* Sheena Bonfire, I finally bother to look up her stats and she's -ATK because of loving course she's -ATK.
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May 23, 2017 07:52
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Wondering who to feed Klein to. Would be a shame to waste QR and Deathblow if I only inherited one of these skill to another char. Is there anyone who is ideal with both of them ?
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May 23, 2017 07:56
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Roger Explosion posted:Having no decent red unit also hurts. You could make a Wo Dao+ Palla with a good speed nature work, but it seems like a lot of effort for a unit that will probably get out-classed the moment a red tome flier comes into existence. Bunilla can kill every relevant green unit though so a red isn't really needed
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May 23, 2017 08:00
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Another week of Alphonse? Dammit.
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May 23, 2017 08:02
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Uuuuuuugh you need top 40% in tier 18 to stay in the 4 orbs zone. Literally nobody will stay in tier 18, the top 40% move up and the bottom 60% move down
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May 23, 2017 08:03
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cheetah7071 posted:Uuuuuuugh you need top 40% in tier 18 to stay in the 4 orbs zone. Literally nobody will stay in tier 18, the top 40% move up and the bottom 60% move down Dammit what That's a strange way of doing it
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May 23, 2017 08:09
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My eventual plan is to ping pong between tiers 18 and 19 but I might have to fall down to 17 for a week to let the whales sort into 19 and 20 first
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May 23, 2017 08:10
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cheetah7071 posted:Uuuuuuugh you need top 40% in tier 18 to stay in the 4 orbs zone. Literally nobody will stay in tier 18, the top 40% move up and the bottom 60% move down 
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Already have a defense, wow. 3 mages+Ike has been incredibly successful on defense so far.
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