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Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Ginette Reno posted:

Personally I suspect the Penguins are going to lift the Stanley Cup

"The favored team will win" says increasingly nervous pundit for the 4 round this playoffs

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ElwoodCuse
Jan 11, 2004

we're puttin' the band back together

zegermans posted:

"The favored team will win" says increasingly nervous pundit for the 4 round this playoffs

People have been throwing the Penguins in the grave since the start of the Columbus series, Penguins fans included

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

And most people predicted that power house Ottawa would be at least in the conference finals.

bewbies
Sep 23, 2003

Fun Shoe
this is gonna be the worst drat finals since that awful devils/red wings goatfuck whenever the hell that was

Jamwad Hilder
Apr 18, 2007

surfin usa
Predators vs Penguins would be ok, even with the Penguins banged up. If it's Predators vs Senators I probably won't watch at all until there's a potential series-clinching game.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

You have to watch the final series, because it's the last wheeze of NHL hockey until October. Gotta delay the withdrawl symptoms as long as possible.

Mortabis
Jul 8, 2010

I am stupid
I would love a Preds/Sens series.

Captain Internet
Apr 20, 2005

:love: HOTLANTA :love:
IS WHERE YOUR HEART IS

Mortabis posted:

I would love a Preds/Sens series.

Yeah, it'd be like US v Canada, Noise v. Silence, Full v. Empty, a grown adult man v. a medium sized pet.

Ratings poison.

Siroc
Oct 10, 2004

Ray, when someone asks you if you're a god, you say "YES"!

bewbies posted:

this is gonna be the worst drat finals since that awful devils/red wings goatfuck whenever the hell that was

The South shall rise (The Cup) again!

Benson Cunningham
Dec 9, 2006

Chief of J.U.N.K.E.R. H.Q.

ElwoodCuse posted:

People have been throwing the Penguins in the grave since the start of the Columbus series, Penguins fans included

Hey, Pens fans weren't doomsaying in the first round. The Blue Jackets? That one was easy money.

But we should have lost to the Caps. They were the better team, and they outplayed us. We squeaked through that round on puck luck, and maybe Fleury pushing one final dagger into the Cap's heart on his way out.

The Pens are in a weird spot for someone who's watched them all year. Last year it seemed likely they would win from the way they played. Passes were connecting every game, shots were raining down on the net, they were holding opponents to under 30 every game. Basically, they were doing all the things that you're told you'll win if you do. This year though, the playoffs have been very hit or miss. No where is this more evident than against Ottawa, where we're trading 5-1 losses and 7-0 wins. There are shadows of the team from last year, but interspersed are these bad games where nothing is working.

It's just hard to have the same kind of confidence in this team compared to last year. Obviously fans want them to win, but we're also more afraid they won't.

Spring Break My Heart
Feb 15, 2012

Benson Cunningham posted:

Hey, Pens fans weren't doomsaying in the first round.
They were.

T-Bone
Sep 14, 2004

jakes did this?

bewbies posted:

this is gonna be the worst drat finals since that awful devils/red wings goatfuck whenever the hell that was

2007 was just as bad, that was loving awful although Alfredsson shooting the puck at Niedermayer was great



Actually a lot of the 90s/00s Finals weren't great. 02 sucked, 03 was actually not on game by game basis a really compelling series despite it going 7 -- a lot of the games weren't competitive. 95 through 98 were blowouts.

Probably the best Cup Finals of my lifetime were like 94 (Rangers/Canucks), 00 (Devils/Stars), 04 (Lightning/Flames), 06 (Hurricanes/Oilers), 09 (Penguins/Red Wings), and 11 (Bruins/Canucks).

T-Bone fucked around with this message at 16:38 on May 23, 2017

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

bewbies posted:

this is gonna be the worst drat finals since that awful devils/red wings goatfuck whenever the hell that was

Sorry but you have to accept the fact that the Predators own and are good. Also while they're more defense focused, it's not fair to compare them to the trap and flying elbows show that was the 90s Devils.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

The relative funness of the upcoming SCF games will be forgotten because subban-with-cup.jpg will be the only memory that lasts.

And that is good, because neither eastern team will be much fun to watch while they fall.

T-Bone
Sep 14, 2004

jakes did this?

zegermans posted:

Sorry but you have to accept the fact that the Predators own and are good. Also while they're more defense focused, it's not fair to compare them to the trap and flying elbows show that was the 90s Devils.

this is a comically bad understanding of how that series played out

bewbies
Sep 23, 2003

Fun Shoe
order your special predators playoff kit! includes:

one (1) "hockey puck" - the thing you hit with the stick
two (2) pieces of deep fried chicken with hot sauce
one (1) sweat rag
one (1) tiny confederate flag
country music mixtape including the hit song "i like trucks 'n girls 'n trucks"

BONUS

"rules of ice hockey" coloring book

T-Bone
Sep 14, 2004

jakes did this?
also why are Blues fans posting about Stanley Cup Finals

Ergo Propter Hog
Jul 21, 2014



bewbies posted:

order your special predators playoff kit! includes:

one (1) "hockey puck" - the thing you hit with the stick
two (2) pieces of deep fried chicken with hot sauce
one (1) sweat rag
one (1) tiny confederate flag
country music mixtape including the hit song "i like trucks 'n girls 'n trucks"

BONUS

"rules of ice hockey" coloring book

Imagine being this mad

Thufir
May 19, 2004

"The fucking Mayans were right."

zegermans posted:

Sorry but you have to accept the fact that the Predators own and are good. Also while they're more defense focused, it's not fair to compare them to the trap and flying elbows show that was the 90s Devils.

I don't even think it's fair to say they are defense-focused under Lavvy, it's just their strong suit. And the strength of their D corp is in transitioning the puck out of the zone and jumping in on offense, which are pretty fun things. Hopefully they can work on their goddamn inexcusably bad and dumb PP in this next week though.

Mortabis
Jul 8, 2010

I am stupid
Watching Pekka Rinne make save after save as if the Preds didn't even have a goal at all is fun as hell to watch and always has been.

T-Bone
Sep 14, 2004

jakes did this?
Yeah calling the Predators D focused is weird, like every Lavi team they're a get up and go group -- when they're on it they have a really aggressive forecheck (Ardvidsson and Aberg terrorizing Hainsey/Maatta/etc will be amusing), and while their D is good, they're all offensive guys who like to push the pace/jump into the play.

Their neutral zone play last night was actually really bad. The Ducks were carving them up every time they got a clean breakout. I think they'll have a tough time with Malkin especially, but if they can get on the Penguins D like Washington did, they'll have a chance.

T-Bone fucked around with this message at 17:07 on May 23, 2017

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


If you rep St Louis, you can't really wield the culture hammer in any argument.

Thufir posted:

I don't even think it's fair to say they are defense-focused under Lavvy, it's just their strong suit. And the strength of their D corp is in transitioning the puck out of the zone and jumping in on offense, which are pretty fun things. Hopefully they can work on their goddamn inexcusably bad and dumb PP in this next week though.

I'm starting to think the PP problem might be sorta connected to the first part of that having read Dellow's tweets about defenseman-vs-forward shooting % in PP scenarios. Caps might have a similar thing going on with Carlson, which brought it to my attention.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Vincent Van Goat posted:

Imagine being this mad

2 nights ago Firestorm instakilled me from 100% HP while he was at less than 15% and I wasn't this mad.

Thufir
May 19, 2004

"The fucking Mayans were right."

T-Bone posted:

Their neutral zone play last night was actually really bad. The Ducks were carving them up every time they got a clean breakout. I think they'll have a tough time with Malkin especially, but if they can get on the Penguins D like Washington did, they'll have a chance.

I think this is something to watch because it seemed like when they were struggling in the regular season they were just a total mess getting through the neutral zone. I think their main goal for the top 6 at least has been to put pucks into empty NZ space either off the boards or a lob out of the DZ (which they do an insane amount of) and having speedy forwards win the race to pick it up. Losing Fiala hurts that strategy a bit but hopefully Aberg can be a threat there too. The Ducks seemed to do a good job at times of slowing that transition down and then, I think, forechecking pretty aggressively when the Preds were attempting a controlled breakout, with 2 or 3 Ducks inside the blue line, which often lead to the Preds attempting a stretch pass which was usually at best tipped in for a dump.


glynnenstein posted:

I'm starting to think the PP problem might be sorta connected to the first part of that having read Dellow's tweets about defenseman-vs-forward shooting % in PP scenarios. Caps might have a similar thing going on with Carlson, which brought it to my attention.

Yeah it's weird, their PP formation doesn't really seem to be dynamic at all and they seem content to pass the puck around the low-risk areas looking for a money point shot but it doesn't seem to really do much to force the PKers out of position. Neal, Arvidsson, and Forsberg can all shoot the puck well, I wish they would try to work in some opportunities for them in the home plate area. Also their PP zone entries are kind of weird in that it seems like particularly Josi will pass up what looks like a likely controlled entry for a drop pass to push the PKers back a little more.

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe
Any finals has the potential to be real good. Edmonton-Carolina was a great final and that was two of the worst finals teams we've seen.

Teemu Pokemon
Jun 19, 2004

To sign them is my real test

With full no movement clause
I vote we banish PAS to their own finals thread so they can't rain all over the perdrade

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

Teemu Pokemon posted:

I vote we banish PAS to their own finals thread so they can't rain all over the perdrade

Nah it's good to have a villain. Perds-Ducks was totally 1 sided in its posting except for Furnaceface being a bizarro contrarian.

Captain Internet
Apr 20, 2005

:love: HOTLANTA :love:
IS WHERE YOUR HEART IS
I hope the Pens clinch tonight. Because if the Pens are in the SCF, the best fan to be is a Pens fan.

Because either way, a cool good and fun team will win the Stanley Cup.

Neitherman
Sep 25, 2006

He will die without safety brief.

Captain Internet posted:

I hope the Pens clinch tonight. Because if the Pens are in the SCF, the best fan to be is a Pens fan.

Because either way, a cool good and fun team will win the Stanley Cup.

Especially if they play the way they did on Sunday. Everything Cool and Good about hockey will be on display once again, just as it was last season.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
At the risk of expressing a controversial opinion around here, I hope my favored team wins, even if it's at the expense of everybody else's favored team.

ElwoodCuse
Jan 11, 2004

we're puttin' the band back together

Go look at the game one thread when Fleury had to start

mich
Feb 28, 2003
I may be racist but I'm the good kind of racist! You better put down those chopsticks, you HITLER!
Here's a funny little game moment of last night: when Sissons scored the Preds' fourth goal, I immediately took my hat off my head and then paused and was super confused. I turned to Thufir and said "why is no one throwing their hats?" before resuming screaming and high-fiving people. His second goal had been announced as Aberg's and I had noticed it was Sissons but didn't notice there had not been a correction announced. I was going too crazy to think about it much longer but then the arena announcer confirmed the hat trick and all was right and now I need a new hat.

Now I also just realized Thufir was wearing that hat Tugboat was wearing in my avatar so I hope the power of Tugboat, Golden Dog, has now blessed the ice for the Final.

Verman
Jul 4, 2005
Third time is a charm right?
Another SCF, another day that Kesler and Bieksa don't get a cup. The hockey gods are smiling down upon us.

And Bieksa trying to start a fight in a guaranteed loss in the last seconds of a game/series. What a giant piece of poo poo. I loved watching him walk the tunnel, tossing his teammates sticks and smashing his against the wall. Pretty sure it was all a strategy to not shake hands after the game.

In all reality, I would personally prefer to see the senators beat the pens because I'm tired of seeing the pens keep going to the cup. I would like to see Karlsson advance because I really like the guy, but I also really like Subban. I think the Karlsson/Subban story could be nice to watch unfold. BUT I think the most exciting hockey would come from pens/preds as well as ratings. Oh well, go preds. Its fun to see a new team win for once, and even better to see that the city is really getting behind them and super enthusiastic.


***EDIT**

Also, this was great.

http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/nick-ritchie-tags-viktor-arvidsson-with-the-mark-of-the-1795450435

Verman fucked around with this message at 19:13 on May 23, 2017

Soft Shell Crab
Apr 12, 2006

Go Pens. Hack their fingers right off.

The Dirty Burger
Aug 24, 2007

1st team all star
+
2nd degree manslaughter
=
3rd world clothing line
Sounds like Colin White is making his playoff debut tonight, why the hell not

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

The Dirty Burger posted:

Sounds like Colin White is making his playoff debut tonight, why the hell not

Is he the crazy one? All those whites look the same to me...

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

The Dirty Burger posted:

Sounds like Colin White is making his playoff debut tonight, why the hell not

Show me.... "He's not Chris Kelly"

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

bewbies posted:

this is gonna be the worst drat finals since that awful devils/red wings goatfuck whenever the hell that was

Devils/Kings sounded awful and lived up to the billing.

Benson Cunningham posted:

Hey, Pens fans weren't doomsaying in the first round. The Blue Jackets? That one was easy money.

There was some definite concern, and it might've been justified if MAF didn't remember how to play spectacularly good hockey all of a sudden like he did. Pens would still have won that series, though.

bewbies posted:

order your special predators playoff kit! includes:

one (1) "hockey puck" - the thing you hit with the stick
two (2) pieces of deep fried chicken with hot sauce
one (1) sweat rag
one (1) tiny confederate flag
country music mixtape including the hit song "i like trucks 'n girls 'n trucks"

BONUS

"rules of ice hockey" coloring book

I get that the only thing separating Nashville from any other Midwest city is Country music out the rear end, but :lol:.

This needs a copy of "Booing Gary Bettman For Dummies". It's just a sheet of paper which says "Always boo Gary Bettman", but informative. :eng101:

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

bewbies posted:

order your special predators playoff kit! includes:

one (1) "hockey puck" - the thing you hit with the stick
two (2) pieces of deep fried chicken with hot sauce
one (1) sweat rag
one (1) tiny confederate flag
country music mixtape including the hit song "i like trucks 'n girls 'n trucks"

BONUS

"rules of ice hockey" coloring book

are we really LOL SOUTHing a city that's literally a 4 hour drive south-east of us

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Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

The Dirty Burger posted:

Sounds like Colin White is making his playoff debut tonight, why the hell not

Eh worked against New York when we did it with Stone. I like!
(we proceeded to lose the next game and series but whatever)

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